never gave it a prayer buick

next race

was a bad ride

Couldn't understand tagger ride did he think it was pegasus?

Hairy coat
apparently

Looking like he was trained for 8f race

was never travelling..if ewe think it was a bad ride find another hobby asap.

Yep ^

Stamp collecting

Looked like Buick thought it WAS an 8f race.  Hopeless effort.

crawford - ray charles

abso clueless.

Rico-dangleflaps - b0llox.  Buick never asked for an effort until 2f out which was too late.

try watching the replay.

Rico-dangleflaps - if I'm "Ray Charles then you're "Wayne Kerr". 

"See" what I did there? (pun intended).

I've heard pundits and trainers when praising jockeys say that "horses run for him/her"
By making that distinction aren't the experts saying that horses don't run for some jocks?

never going, for me.

Maybe he's not as good as they thought. Or maybe the guineas form isn't that strong (colts, not fillies obv).

Strange ride for me horse came 6th in guineas over a mile so got class and stamina above that level.
If it was me I'd be having him up there not take a pull and drop him in last.

was never at any stage travelling..and was hanging last 4f.

Non trier. Nuffsaid

Similarity to Mulrennen infamous ride?

Nothing like Mulrennen ride,horse just not a sprinter,back to a mile next!!! Commonwealth Cup a pipedream based on that although must have show something at home to persuade the trainer otherwise?

Going for The Jersey.

Full of running at the finish, never put in race - I'd say a tad more than nothing like....

Should add showed plenty turn of foot, closing fast, when asked late on too.

2nd was upsides the wnr 1F out,wnr went away from the field,
was well on top by the line.Noble Style just not good enough
today.

Horrible head carriage despite the noseband. A horse going rapidly the wrong way mentally imo.

Even the jock later admitted he was out of his ground. That's jockey speak for a shocking ride.

The way people are talking this was on the bridle swinging
& just btn as an unlucky loser.It wasn't on both counts.
Shaquille much the best on the day.

I think you are missing point. It isn't about whether the horse who was best positioned was the best horse in the race. The thread is did Buick give an odds on shot any realistic chance of winning? Obviously, the answer is no.

it was a 3L last after 1f...it was a 3L last afta 3f..he was riding it with 2.5f to go and it started hanging..it plodded on to be beaten 3L..

it wasnt good enuff simple..nowt rong with ride.

Was held up last when he won the Gimcrack.

Penzance don't think anyone is suggesting it was swinging on the bridle or defo would have won. Merely as the OP title suggests, and it is my view also that the horse had very little chance of winning from that positioning in the race and would have had to be something extraordinary to win from there.

Racing post says Held up in rear, ridden and headway 1f out, kept on final furlong (op 4/6 tchd 4/5)

Think by the time he really started asking, the bird had flown and no chance of catching a decent horse (which I'm not saying he would have definitely beat).

the horse had very little chance of winning from that positioning in the race

chelsea green 2:05 yest..12L last of 12 just over 2f out..won.

they know it has serious issues and tried it over 6f to see if it would settle over a shorter distance. I doubt if winning was ever the main part of the plan.

Think a big problem with the jockey's positioning was that it also meant yanking it back behind a wall of horses, which is clearly wasn't enjoying doing and ran free, being restrained. Let it stride on over that sprint trip was of course the answer. It might not have won, but would have gone close for sure.

So rather than the champion jock producing another duff ride, Godolphin were just taking the piss? If that was true then the sport is in a total mess if the biggest operation can just play silly buggers with an odds on shot early on a Saturday.

Not at all. They tried it at a mile and it didn't stay (or was not good enough) They put a huge noseband on to try to keep its head down and stop it pulling its chance away but that didn't work. Gelding or a tongue tie might help but I fear the horse has had enough of the game.

sage, point is it was a sprint trip, wouldnt have 'pulled it's chance away', it pulled harder restrained anyway and still ran on strongly.

"they" didn't want it yesterday - it will win when they want it - it's not complicated - same as most racing but most of us are not in on the action - and why should we be ? are you paying the bills?

To paraphrase the old Alexei Sayle line, I'd rather be here shouting spite than where you are spouting $hite.

it was a 3L last after 1f...it was a 3L last afta 3f..he was riding it with 2.5f to go and it started hanging..it plodded on to be beaten 3L..

3L down 3f out and poor ride cudnt win

modern games 4-5L down 3f out pi$$ed in.