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Wow I never watched the race and knew nothing about what happened yet when I check my account this morning I found that bet365 had given me my money back over Watergrange Jack which run in the 6.30 at Fontwell last night.
I am going to give some of the money to Charity as I never expected that to happen.
Did anybody else get their money back?
This is not a wind up they really did give me my money back.
I am going to give some of the money to Charity as I never expected that to happen.
Did anybody else get their money back?
This is not a wind up they really did give me my money back.
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Why would u have backed Watergrange Jack in the first place seaside ?
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Did anybody else get their money back?
not on here seaside, we've all given denise the runaround & either been limited to buttons or emptied. same fate will befall you when you either (a) start winning or (b) show you have some kind of betting acumen hth  |
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Surely B365 have to be consistent if they've made the decision to void bets on RTR horses?
But on the BF exchange, it's always a losing bet, is that right? |
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RTR horses are deemed to have come under starter's orders so are losers on here, at least that is my understanding.
I suppose that - at least in theory - the price ought to reflect the chances of a refusal, at least on horses thar are known to be difficult at the start? |
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But with Frankie's 'flying dismount' on Chaldean, that was pretty rough luck on the exchange punters, you would imagine?
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good point you make longbridge.
curious then that Energy One, a known refuser, was backed 10.5 >> 6.8 last night. before refusing, as it does. so who was behind that move. the shrewdies ? nah. afternoon paddy. |
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8th, unseated, refused.
think we're onto one here lads, pile on  |
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stood still down at the start. going nowhere.
6.8 >> 11.5  |
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These kind are also why I laugh when anyone tries the argument that racing markets are too efficient to bet against.
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hulk, you know I have difficulty with your conspiracy theories, so:
"Paddy" backs Energy One down to an unrealistically low price where real Exchange shrewdies can lay the horse as a value bet - to what benefit to "Paddy"? |
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Exchange shrewdies will view that move and suspect someone knows something and give it a wide berth.
same as they would with the johnston horse in the 845 last night. 17.5 into 9.2 the one that was tailed off 2 furlongs out |
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Not sure I follow hulk.
Whether shrewdies or not, someone matched "Paddy" down to 6.8 and his back bets were losers - how does he profit by this? |
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So Power's are going to back a horse who's a suspect
starter on the exchange and risk losing their dough. What a load of b0ll0x. |
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how does he profit by this?
I think this has been the problem with Hulk's theory, whether I think he's right or not... |
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you're assuming the majority of money on show isn't his.
that's your first mistake. |
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Go on then. Let's assume that, like Smarkets / Matchbook (allegedly) most of the money here is Betfair's ("Paddy").
So if so, how come winners don't ge restricted or banned like the do on SM/MB if the money they are winning is BF's? Sorry Hulk, I really struggle to understand how your theories make commercial sense for those you think are the conspirators. |
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who owned the £108 that appeared in front of mine at the start of the 3m chase ?
if it wasn't paddy ... in fact, who owns all the £108 bets i see appearing in front of my bets. |
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put up money for johnstons at 17.5 in the 845 last night
straight away, £108 appeared looking for 17 5 minutes later price was 9.2 tailed off |
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A bot that's matching to your betting patterns?
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People always moan about bots on the exchange, but it's worth remembering that there are many losing bots also on these markets.
They are not a magical profit making system, only as good as they prove to be. Just like us punters. |
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Hulk, I have no idea why you ascribe the £108s you see cutting inside your asking price being BF's, and I cannot see you make a case for how that benefits BF if true.
But we have been over that ground before. On the case in point - what motive do you ascribe to BF supposedly backing horses at prices shorter than value, and giving us punters the chance to lay them at better than value? |