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Seemed to be falling pre covid and that trend has continued

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By:
Ramruma
When: 16 May 23 11:44
Cost of living? Rise of football?

Or is it that Cheltenham has come to dominate racing coverage so much that there is no room for the traditional over-winter anticipation of the Classics?
By:
Poppydog.
When: 16 May 23 12:23
Quick look at Epsom website

A family with two kids to get into main stand on Derby Day = £470
By:
Manoleeds
When: 16 May 23 13:28
Wow -you could do the same for the entire four day Ebor meeting in the County Stand for £460 or Tatts for £220.
By:
jimnast
When: 16 May 23 13:44

May 16, 2023 -- 12:23PM, Poppydog. wrote:


Quick look at Epsom websiteA family with two kids to get into main stand on Derby Day = £470


Jcr chasing racegoers away same as arc the racecourses who try to get people are going to be punished next year.

By:
jimnast
When: 16 May 23 13:46
Ffs not a clue how that poppy dog quote got on my post I am not clever enough to do thatCrazy
By:
onlooker
When: 16 May 23 14:53
You are smarter than you think - jimnast   Happy
By:
Manoleeds
When: 16 May 23 15:01
You must have been in live  view then clicked on quote .
By:
windsor knot
When: 16 May 23 15:13
you can always rely on our mates at chester though ...apparently at the may fest just gone the ' parade ' restaurant, which is in the middle of the track,  you can have a 4 course lunch ( cash bar ) and a county badge ( ground floor only ) for a reasonable £620 each . apologies to chester if i've read it wrong but i don't think i did !!!!
By:
Manoleeds
When: 16 May 23 16:59
1 July Chester a place in Festival Chalet is £315 plus VAT -I mean why quote plus vat? That's got be corporates with mainly no interest in racing .
By:
truehoncho
When: 16 May 23 17:47
I'm glad it wasn't any busier. It was pi**ing down with rain and packed out inside.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 16 May 23 18:24
Can't reclaim vat on corporate entertainment unless it is for staff
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 16 May 23 18:30
Off course its entertainment
The strippers are EXTRA
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By:
The Knight
When: 16 May 23 18:30
Was going to post this last night but forgot.

Usually on Epsom Oaks Day I would be at Donny's evening meeting. But this year, after seeing the current Oaks favourite power home at Chester I thought I'd have a day out at Epsom (first time there since 2003) and have a right smash up on the jolly.

Now, perhaps I'm a bit of a snob, but I'd only go in the Princess Elizabeth Stand and I thought I pay around £80-£90 for the privilege. But no. Looked on the Epsom website last night and they want £140 for Princess E stand.

OK, I'm lucky enough to be able to afford it but that is taking the absolute p*ss and I will not be ripped off to such an extent. Hence, Donny in the evening for as per usual!!!
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 17 May 23 09:39
They should try a carnival imo
By:
mrcombustible
When: 17 May 23 11:45
A proper snob would know it is called the "Queen Elizabeth 11 " stand
By:
dambuster
When: 17 May 23 11:52
Racecourses are killing themselves and they can't see it. They cater for the non punting posh and 18-24 year olds who have virtually no interest.
If a racetrack said £10 entrance for all 40+ year olds, it'd be packed
By:
The Knight
When: 17 May 23 18:22
Don't know where I got the Princess Elizabeth stand from!! It is, of course, Queen Elizabeth stand! I think I was muddled with Epsom's Princess Elizabeth Stakes - tell me that is a race called that there, please!!

Anyhow, QE or PE Stand, I won't be lashing out the £140!!!
By:
TheAnorak
When: 17 May 23 19:27
EPSOM DOWNS / Saturday 3 June 2023
13103 / 2:10pm / Princess Elizabeth Stakes (Class 1) (Group 3)

for three yrs old and upwards fillies and mares only

ONE MILE about 113 YARDS (8f abt 113yds)
By:
steerforth
When: 18 May 23 10:19

May 16, 2023 -- 6:30PM, The Knight wrote:


Was going to post this last night but forgot. Usually on Epsom Oaks Day I would be at Donny's evening meeting. But this year, after seeing the current Oaks favourite power home at Chester I thought I'd have a day out at Epsom (first time there since 2003) and have a right smash up on the jolly. Now, perhaps I'm a bit of a snob, but I'd only go in the Princess Elizabeth Stand and I thought I pay around £80-£90 for the privilege. But no. Looked on the Epsom website last night and they want £140 for Princess E stand. OK, I'm lucky enough to be able to afford it but that is taking the absolute p*ss and I will not be ripped off to such an extent. Hence, Donny in the evening for as per usual!!!


Its not just racing TK - it's absolutely everywhere you go and everything you do. The only way to beat this is for people who can afford things to simply refuse to go along with it.

By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 May 23 10:32

May 16, 2023 -- 6:30PM, The Knight wrote:


Was going to post this last night but forgot. Usually on Epsom Oaks Day I would be at Donny's evening meeting. But this year, after seeing the current Oaks favourite power home at Chester I thought I'd have a day out at Epsom (first time there since 2003) and have a right smash up on the jolly. Now, perhaps I'm a bit of a snob, but I'd only go in the Princess Elizabeth Stand and I thought I pay around £80-£90 for the privilege. But no. Looked on the Epsom website last night and they want £140 for Princess E stand. OK, I'm lucky enough to be able to afford it but that is taking the absolute p*ss and I will not be ripped off to such an extent. Hence, Donny in the evening for as per usual!!!


Longchamp Guineas .... 8 Euros

Cheap flight, bed and breakfast somewhere.  Prolly works out about the same Laugh

By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 18 May 23 10:35
I went to The Coronation Stakes at Epsom, either 87, 88 or 89.  Pretty sure it was something like £10 back then
By:
The Pies
When: 18 May 23 10:38
Newamarket Guineas Friday was £10 in advance which with the Sandown mile race added was great value but crowd was only ok.
By:
roggrain
When: 18 May 23 10:43
Race courses have become restaurants with racing as a side show.
By:
The Knight
When: 18 May 23 10:51
steerforth...You are spot on.

I try hard to judge everything I buy, be it goods or services, against a backdrop of value for money (although I am not always successful!). That is opposed to allowing myself to be swayed by how much I want something given I can afford quite a lot of things.

I am at York this week and  my 3 day County Stand badge (including viewing from the Gimcrack Stand which is one of the best views in the country) was £96 when purchased at a discount last December. So, £96 for 3 days top class racing against £140 for 1 day at Epsom with probably only 3 or 4 high quality races.

Trouble is, too many do not look at value or cost and simply want to spend, spend, spend, mostly on credit. Epsom on Oaks Day will be a good example. It is 'Ladies Day' on that Friday and I suspect the QE 2 stand will be heaving with plenty of women, scantily dressed regardless of weather, dosed up with drink. I'd bet that a lot of them will be living beyond their means and the £140 ticket will mean nothing to them. Now, I hope I am wrong and the afore-mentioned stand is under populated that day to serve Epsom a lesson for forthcoming years.

(That all said, the OAKS is shaping up into a super race and the thought of those scantily dressed women, as well, is tempting me to spend the £140 - but I must not weaken!!!)
By:
truehoncho
When: 18 May 23 11:43
I'm not sure about that Knight. I think you will find the Epsom set can well afford their £140 and for the casual racegoer the Derby or Oaks has far more appeal than York, hence the price of the ticket.
By:
workrider
When: 18 May 23 12:34
The price of racing in the U.K. is unreal , heading to Wolverhampton on Tues then its F. L. to complete the full compliment of tracks , but I have to say price of entry and food prices are a nightmare .
By:
The Knight
When: 20 May 23 12:26
truehoncho....do you REALLY think the 'Epsom Set' as you call them will be at the track itself?

No, it will be attended by London chavs spending on their credit cards like no tomorrow. Remember, I was born and bred in London and lived their until I was 45. Epsom on Oaks and Derby Day became a joke many years ago.

And here is another thing, I'd bet the attendance at York on either Thursday or Friday was greater than it will be at Epsom on Oaks Day. Jockey (should be Jokey) Club racecourse are pricing themselves out of the game and are too stupid to see it. Their pricing is firstly based on greed and only secondly based on actual supply and demand.
By:
DonegalPrince
When: 20 May 23 13:10
Bottle of Moet @ York = £70. At Newmarket it is £99. That is 41% more. Extraordinary. Whatever the business model is at York, it works in favour of the race goer. Not sure if catering is inhouse at York but whatever they do, however they organise things or purchase items, every racecourse should do it. If there was a small difference I could understand but 41%!
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 20 May 23 13:24
Londun mark UP
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By:
truehoncho
When: 20 May 23 14:59
I think you are exaggerating the issue somewhat Knight. The Epsom set are those that attend the Derby and they can well afford £140 if they want to. Its not really that much, it was £140 for the cheapest Scotland v Wales ticket at Murrayfield this year. They will get a decent crowd for the Oaks day and although we would all like cheaper tickets the tracks will always price for what they can get (as does every other business).
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