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jimnast
14 May 23 15:29
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On Thursday many racegoers who were trying to get in the Dee stand were told the card machine wasn’t working what do you think they did.

Allowed cash

Let them in for free

Turned them away

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By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 14 May 23 15:47
Gave them an ICECREAM
Grin
By:
Tattcorner
When: 14 May 23 15:55
Can I phone a friend?

My guess...if letting in for nothing...others might start bitter complaining.  So will go with turning them away.
By:
onlooker
When: 14 May 23 15:56
Asked for ...

Photo Identity
Utility Bill
Proof of Earnings
Bank Account Details

Finger Printed

Oh no - That was just to have a Ten-Bob bet with ChesterBet.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 14 May 23 15:57
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 14 May 23 15:57
LaughLaughLaugh
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 16:03
Onlooker on chester bet they are really ripping the public off not only with the returns but now on a rolling caption on the big screens say the shows are2/1 7/2 5/1 on the build up to the race Chester bet will be advertising approximat odds 5/1 8/1 12/1 maybe not exactly like that but you know what I’m getting at .

Tattcorner got the answer right I would be surprised if those race goers ever returned
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 16:03
By the way it was not just a few
By:
onlooker
When: 14 May 23 16:09
Is the whole Chester Racecourse - Bars etc - now - 'Card Only' .... like at many Football grounds?
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 16:14
Yes everything card only onlooker and attendances are plummeting I only went Wednesday Friday on Wednesday after the vase I just went in the architect pub and nipped out every half hour andatched from the wall.

Would you believe the drought cider on course is purple it’s called fruit cider
By:
onlooker
When: 14 May 23 16:40
How much for a Pint of Bitter -

- In the Architect

Happy
By:
verbotene liebe
When: 14 May 23 16:43
Think many have the same idea about this place now - met a racing bud in Ye Olde Boot on Friday, chatting racing and forgot about the time until we realised we'd missed the first. Got to the wall, looked at how the latecomers were being searched going into the Dee ( you'd think they were visiting relatives in prison), then decided we'd watch from the wall and go back and forth to the nearby pub. Have now decided that I'll not even consider handing them a penny ever again until at the very least they drop the Tatts dress code - on their website they even show an image of how they'd like an attendee to dress, along with recommendations  of which stores to buy the gear from. Crowd looked pretty sparse, something that pleased me greatly.
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 16:50
For a pint of very good beer and a New Zealand white about £12 .
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 16:53
Price of champagne cheapest £90 highly unlikely you would get to sit down and enjoy it,York next week less than half that price and guaranteed a seat.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 14 May 23 16:55
You can actually see the racing on the Knavemire as
WELL
Laugh
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 16:57
Yes you can lucky come to think about it the wall at Chester s a much better option than been on course if you fancy a drink you have the one liebe is referring to the architect.
By:
elisjohn
When: 14 May 23 17:02
The dante meeting , to avoid the big crowds is probably the best meeting of the year
By:
comingupthehill
When: 14 May 23 17:07
Companies doing this to stop staff nicking cash.

But the downside is,a few of the young crowd have told me. They target bars at concerts,footy,races,where the bar is busy.

Order 6 pints,produce dud card,transatition fails,customers says,defo funds there try it again,then says your machine ain’t working.
Bar staff on minimum wage under pressure with long queues,just waves them away saying no problem.free drinks.

Because it looks like you’ve scanned your card,any managers don’t notice.  staff don’t want the hassle.
Same happens to get in venues,Wembley etc.

The business model of seeing labour as irrelevant.  back fires,because there’s no loyalty or responsibility.
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 17:07
Yes elisjohn add to that there’s something special about been there.
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 17:09
Absolutely true comingupthehill
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 14 May 23 17:17
Actually the pubs,bars have cctv monitioring the tills
Changes in expected revenue will be closely scrutunized
Devil
By:
comingupthehill
When: 14 May 23 17:21
Chester used to always be nearly sold out,so they even used to let you go in the centre and could take your own beer in,people were walking in with cases of beer,

But they stopped all that,went card only,plus they fleece you.

So 2 things happen,they don’t go,or they find a way round it.

If prices were competitive,then people wouldn’t be bothered to work round the system,and would attend.

As for the staff,they probably give an agency 17 quid an hour for staff on 9.50 an hour.
Just pay the staff the 17,and get loyal workers..
By:
comingupthehill
When: 14 May 23 17:23
I’m so lucky - yeah. Cheltenham. We took 5 million on beer sales,but we might of lost 25k as the quantity bought dosent match sales.

Never mind,they might of spilt it,just bank the 5 million.
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 17:25
Comingupthehill

Just one bookmaker turned up in the middle on Wednesday,no bar no food no screen nowhere to keep dry ,he packed down after 4 races ,they have even taken away the facilities for the Cheshire regiment on the Friday where many soldiers old and young would meet up in a big marquee.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 14 May 23 17:37
It’s called managed decline.

The books say it’s cost effective.

So what can they do.

Sometimes running something at a slight loss,might be worth it long term,if you block growth,you can’t grow.it’s difficult cos how long do you sustain it till you pull the plug.
By:
ImSoLuckyLucky!
When: 14 May 23 17:37
Only been to Chester once quite a while ago
You cant appreciate how tight the track is
Also means drinking/viewing is very restricted
Not for me
Grin
By:
elisjohn
When: 14 May 23 17:53
chester in the early 80s was superb, shergar, law society etc etc ,piggott , armstrong with the fav in the opening race , always last ,   but that tuesday- thurs meeting then was superb
By:
elisjohn
When: 14 May 23 17:54
i think those days chester only had about 3 meetings  all year
By:
mrcombustible
When: 14 May 23 17:55
Frankfurter stall at Lingfield yesterday, card machine stopped working. I offered £15 cash for 2. He said sorry, racecourse wont allow cash. He lost my sale.
These stallholders are terrified of Arena Racing though there is one stall that will accept my cash as long as no Arena staff in sight
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 17:59
Mr c

There was a situation at haydock last summer when the owners of a winner who had won a few quid in the ring went into the champagne bar to celebrate,when ordering he was told card only ,he ordered two taxis and went into a wine bar in newton le willows and spent it there.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 14 May 23 18:00
Chester went downhill when sangster and barry hills stopped going,
I was stood next to sheik Mohammed one day,
Aidan didn’t even bother going over this year.

At least they’ve got Owen,all the premier league players used to go.
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 18:01
Elisjohn

It would be difficult for people to understand how good the Chester cup / vase meeting was in the 80s
By:
jimnast
When: 14 May 23 18:03
Regarding the premier league players uniteds first premier league they played Blackburn on the Monday night and all the players were at Chester celebrating the following day.
By:
onlooker
When: 14 May 23 18:17
Speaking of Football - and today being Sunday

Remember that Sunday Racing  FOOTBALL TEAMS  Nonsense at Haydock Park -

Where the Jockeys all rode for different Football teams, or something similar - and they had different Football Managers, and/or former players 'Managing' the different teams.

Same silly idea as the current - 'Racing League' jamboree/jolly-ups - that Chapman, Weaver and others all get so artificially  over-excited about
By:
1st time poster
When: 14 May 23 18:47
herad chester coe on itv wetting herself they they,d got 30,000 over 3 days,if suns out they get 40,000+ on sun card to watch journeymen horses
By:
windsor knot
When: 14 May 23 18:49
i'm sure i have somewhere a 1979 chester cup racecard signed by cecil, cauthen and piggott . i still have the junior members day badge , £2.50. ...went there thursday on a free badge . never seen the place so empty and , as usual here  , enjoyed myself more in the pub .
By:
ribero1
When: 14 May 23 19:06
Things had to catch up with Chester eventually,haven't looked at this years pricing structure but they've been charging something like £42 for an ordinary Saturday in Tatts for several years with some of the worst facilities imaginable,York would be half the price for much better racing and facilities in a different world to what Chester offer,it amazed me for many years how the crowds kept coming,although they did look a decent crowd on the Friday.
By:
onlooker
When: 14 May 23 20:05
ribero -

The BHA proposed Reducing of Saturday Afternoon meetings - especially for a 3-hour period when the MAIN meetings are being shown on TV - will surely be a well-deserved, and over-delayed, 'kick in the Goolies' for Chester - after they have, self-servingly, chosen to race practically every other Saturday Summer afternoon these past few years.

Even clashing with (the same population Pool of) Haydock Park on several occasions.

- and, Yes - Of course ...

CHESTER also chose to race on the Silly and Senseless 'SUPER Saturday' Afternoon Shared by -

NEWMARKET's JULY CUP meeting, and YORK's JOHN SMITH's CUP day - along with ASCOT's Summer Mile meeting, too...

Although - It has to be said that Newmarket's equal Greed in switching the traditional JULY CUP day to Saturday, was a fair attempt at scoring an Own Goal.... especially as the ASCOT Summer meeting had been established in he Calendar since the early 2000s

That Top-End Fixture Overload has - FINALLY - been the Catalyst for the proposed Fixture Timing change - due to - an eventual realisation of an over-long dismissal of PUNTER COMPLAINTS Sad - ever since this Australian idea of cramming all, and Any, race of consequence into SATURDAY FIXTURES.

Blame former BHB Chief Executive, the Australian, GREG NICHOLS for that Idea - and a consequence of his   BHB 'jobs for the boys' appointment.
Greg Nichols now being comfortably re-ensconced at Racing Victoria - and a Director of Racing Australia - whilst awaiting his undoubted big fat BHB Pension.

They - the likes of the BHB - and now the current BHA - would rather be star struck by some 'wonder-man' from
Down Under - than listen to the people who REALLY KNOW the game here .... SERIOUS PUNTERS.

Now - We even have Jockeys and Trainer's - along with platitudinous TV Presenters - latching onto the awful Australian description of a horse becoming - "a Saturday horse" Sad
By:
ribero1
When: 14 May 23 20:12
Fair point onlooker,while I think it's outrageous that tracks like Thirsk might lose their premier Saturdays (in one case for a Newmarket meeting that generally attracts just over 30 runners,the highlight being a listed fillies race and also attracts a very poor crowd) the points you make,make it very hard to sympathise with Chester.
By:
mitolo
When: 14 May 23 20:27
chester was a real feel-good racecourse in the late 90s. sad to see it so mismanaged. my last visit was in the notfair box and i so enjoyed the hospitality i nicked a coupla bottles. went back the next day  as a casual racegoer and it was orrible

when the weathers bad the crush is unendurable
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