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Rico-Dangleflaps
10 May 23 17:35
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abso pmsl...the biggest crook in racing.
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Report inrunninggg May 10, 2023 6:08 PM BST
Cant bet in a race where hes involved. Rancid
Report ProSniper May 10, 2023 6:11 PM BST
[img]https://community.cdnbf.net/community.betfair.com/user/prosniper/7d5455...
Report punchestown May 10, 2023 6:38 PM BST
Not even the worst set of sherry drinkers could miss that one.
Report punchestown May 10, 2023 6:40 PM BST
slowly into stride, in rear, some progress into rear of mid-division at halfway, 10th travelling well 3f out, niggled along under 2f out, kept on well under tender handling, never nearer   LaughLaugh
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 10, 2023 6:51 PM BST
blay tent.
Report HappyHibby May 10, 2023 6:57 PM BST
what did the RTV presenter/pundit say...?

errr let me guess...

NOWT perhaps ?

let's not de-rail the good old gravy train lads.
Report freddiewilliams May 10, 2023 6:59 PM BST
Stinky...... again
Report HappyHibby May 10, 2023 7:05 PM BST
the list is endless with Byrnes...

Stewards seem to miss it every time more or less...

very strange indeed...

probably just pure coincidence tbh.
Report slickster May 10, 2023 7:16 PM BST
A bloody mystery how it has a licence. Or ever got one. Just take it away from him. Are they all in on if with this horrible creature. As stated when it has a runner in ANY race you don't bother touching it.
Report HappyHibby May 10, 2023 7:52 PM BST
G.P. Brouder, rider of Ellaat (GB), trained by C.Byrnes, reported to the Clerk of the Scales that his mount hung badly right, made a noise and that he thought his mount was going to fall after the winning post which as was dismounted and walked back.
Report HappyHibby May 10, 2023 7:52 PM BST
he Raceday Stewards enquired into the running and riding of Ellaat (GB), ridden by G.P. Brouder, and trained by C.Byrnes. Evidence was heard from the rider and trainer concerned. G.P. Brouder, stated that his instructions were to settle his mount early, get it to relax as it had made a noise previously and to do his best from there. He said his mount settled well but made a noise at the first bend and this continued throughout the race. He said he tried to quicken the pace from about halfway so it would not turn into a sprint in the closing stages and that his mount hung right in the home straight but despite this, was ridden to the best of his ability. He concluded by stating that his mount was leg weary after the winning post and was dismounted and walked back in. He accepted that his mount took some time to pull up after the race and had continued galloping until after the mile start. When questioned why he did not pull up his mount during the race despite making such a noise, he stated that he was happy to continue because it had made a noise previously. C.Byrnes, confirmed the instructions given and referred to his charges wind issues. He said he was disappointed with the ride given and referred to it as "not pretty viewing" but when asked if he felt the rider should have pulled his charge up, he stated that the the rider was correct not to pull the animal up and referred to it as being being "only a low rated animal". On further questioning when asked if he felt the animal was prevented from running on it's merits, he was satisfied that this had not occurred. The Raceday Stewards also received a report from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer,who stated that Ellaat was coughing post race, but was otherwise post race normal. Samples were taken for analysis. Having viewed the recording of the race and considered the evidence, the Raceday Stewards were satisfied that both trainer and rider were in breach of Rule 212A(i) in that both were involved in the running and/or riding of a horse in a race, who deliberately or recklessly causes or permitted a horse to run other than on its merits. Having taken their records in this regard into account, the Raceday Stewards fined C. Byrnes, trainer, €6000. They suspended G.P. Brouder for 21 racedays and ordered that he forfeit his riding fee. Furthermore, the Raceday Stewards suspended Ellaat for 90 days in accordance with the provisions of Rule 212 C.(d) and referred the betting pattern of Ellaat to a Senior racing Official for further investigation.
In arriving at their decision, The Raceday Stewards acknowledged the report from the I.H.R.B. Veterinary Office, that Ellaat was coughing post race, but they were satisfied that given the way the animal finished out the race and appeared to them to run on after passing the winning post that the animal was not inconvenienced in any way at the time. Mrs. P. Hassett, Stipendiary Steward was replaced by Mr. Liam Walsh, Senior Stipendiary Steward for this enquiry.
Report HappyHibby May 10, 2023 7:56 PM BST
He said he was disappointed with the ride given and referred to it as "not pretty viewing" but when asked if he felt the rider should have pulled his charge up, he stated that the the rider was correct not to pull the animal up and referred to it as being being "only a low rated animal".

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sounds like a lovely wonderful human being does Mr.Byrnes.
Report geoff m May 10, 2023 7:57 PM BST
leg weary after post but took some time to pull up .Taking the p!ss.
Report HappyHibby May 10, 2023 7:59 PM BST
Mrs. P. Hassett, Stipendiary Steward was replaced by Mr. Liam Walsh, Senior Stipendiary Steward for this enquiry.

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interesting...

Liam Walsh wasn't even on duty there today from what i can tell...

how strange.
Report HappyHibby May 10, 2023 8:03 PM BST
the RTV Ireland lads will go through this with a fine tooth comb during Thursday night's Clonmel coverage...

aye...sure they will.
Report slickster May 10, 2023 8:05 PM BST
Sounds like horse abuse needs to be added to this creatures disgusting list. A wonderful specimen isn't he. And the son following suit.
Report punchestown May 10, 2023 8:21 PM BST
It was one of the worst,even by his standards,the jockey dismounting after being carted half the track to try and give a crumb of credibility to the ride was the cream on top.
Report hulk23 May 10, 2023 8:22 PM BST
The Raceday Stewards also received a report from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer,who stated that Ellaat was coughing post race

took the 1.43 that the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer drinks in the same boozer as Charles
Report punchestown May 10, 2023 8:25 PM BST
the I.H.R.B. Veterinary Office, that Ellaat was coughing post race, but they were satisfied that given the way the animal finished out the race and appeared to them to run on after passing the winning post that the animal was not inconvenienced in any way at the time
Report windsor knot May 10, 2023 9:19 PM BST
think the cough they heard was from the trainer .
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 10, 2023 10:51 PM BST
decent punishment from the stewards anyway.
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 9:36 AM BST
the Raceday Stewards suspended Ellaat for 90 days in accordance with the provisions of Rule 212 C.(d) and referred the betting pattern of Ellaat to a Senior racing Official for further investigation.

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will the horse still be on planet Earth in 90 days ?

sounds to me like it doesn't keep the best of health.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2023 9:45 AM BST
subterfuge..
Report Trident May 11, 2023 9:49 AM BST
Absolute filth. 6 Month ban, or they will keep doing it!
Report Trident May 11, 2023 9:49 AM BST
https://www.racingtv.com/videos/watch/horse_racing_replays/443140-racing-again-may-23rd-handicap

For anyone who missed it.
Report Trident May 11, 2023 9:54 AM BST
I think some placed layed it.. Looking at betting patterns, thats my hunch.
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 9:59 AM BST
Gavin Brouder has definitely gone in to my 'keep an eye on him' tray after that one...

a superb display there imv.
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 10:01 AM BST
who is the agent of Gavin Brouder ?

it's not 'Kev' is it ?
Report slickster May 11, 2023 10:23 AM BST
Nice little race at 5.48 this evening with 5 runners.But IMPOSSIBLE to have a bet on it as this creature has a runner. Good luck to anyone who foolishly plays.
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 10:28 AM BST
Boom Boom Boom...

let me hear you say wayo....

wayoooooooooooo.
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 10:31 AM BST
can you imagine the RTV production meeting (if they actually have one) prior to racing today...

right guys...

Charles Byrnes...

who wants to talk about what happened at Gowran Park yesterday ?

Kev ?

Fran ?

Gary ?

Lisa ?

Jane ?

Don ?

ok let's just ignore it and hope the mug viewers didn't notice it yesterday.
Report hulk23 May 11, 2023 1:22 PM BST
Gary knows the time of day, heard him 'inferring' things before but to expect him to go on a one man tirade about it, alienate himself from the racing community and probably make himself unemployable is a bit fanciful ...
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 1:28 PM BST
he does have the odd leg in horse/s with Gordon Elliot hulk...

so i reckon the chances of him saying owt are pretty remote imv.
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 1:31 PM BST
this is exactly why i don't like former jockeys / sons or daughters of trainers / jockeys agents doing the presenting/punditry...

they're never going to say it as it is...

NEVER.
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 1:32 PM BST
and RTV / ATR are well aware of that.
Report mitolo May 11, 2023 1:59 PM BST
walsh does. and neesom isnt looking to make friends either
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 2:11 PM BST
when does Walsh say a horse was given an easy time of it ?

i've pointed out a few horses that were not exactly over-exerted and i'm pretty sure he was on at the time...

said nowt...

one of them was a Denis O'Regan horse at Naas i think..

i put a thread up about it...

you couldn't fail to miss it...

he did...

and he was on with Gary at the time.

White and Blue striped colours i seem to recall...

went on to win at Cork off the top of my head.
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 2:13 PM BST
think it was called Landing Light (or something like that).
Report mitolo May 11, 2023 2:15 PM BST
'you couldnt fail to miss it'?

and he missed it. he didnt fail
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 2:20 PM BST
oh dear...

NUT JOB ALERT.
Report impossible123 May 11, 2023 4:02 PM BST
Just ban the trainer and jockey for at least a month; a monetary fine is not sufficient deterrent. Us punters are sick of horses not running up to their merit.

Until I see a major Irish Flat and Irish Jump trainer subject to a ban for non-trying I'll continue to avoid Irish Racing as much as I can.
Report hulk23 May 11, 2023 4:12 PM BST
how long does the vet get for going along with the ruse ?

(cough)
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 5:16 PM BST
Boom Boom Boom...

7.2 out to 17.
Report slickster May 11, 2023 5:33 PM BST
Started 2nd last and basically stayed 2nd last. This creature doesn't know when to stop does he. A desperate stain on the game.
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 5:40 PM BST
the Stewards will surely ask him to explain the ride / tactics slickster ?
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 5:47 PM BST
Estepona Sun...

3.4 out to 15...
Report Rico-Dangleflaps May 11, 2023 6:23 PM BST
wd charles..Plain
Report stewarts rise May 11, 2023 6:25 PM BST
Looked at this market this morning, not a been traded on it, now find backed from 18 inwards, well done trainer.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk May 11, 2023 6:27 PM BST
That's the 6 grand back. Didn't take long. Mind you they probably got the 6k back on boom boom pinkside
Report HappyHibby May 11, 2023 6:27 PM BST
Irish Racing must be very proud of Charles.
Report DonegalPrince May 11, 2023 6:29 PM BST
you wouldn't be surprised if that was a late decision to run it without handbrake, just to stick 2 fingers up.
Report punchestown May 11, 2023 6:29 PM BST
Irish Racing must be very proud of Charles.




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Unless you're in the clique definitely not.
Report leif May 11, 2023 6:58 PM BST
His hoss in the 7.18 was a reserve initially. 15/8 jolly on the machine.
Report hulk23 May 11, 2023 8:08 PM BST
unless you're in the know, any race with one of his running in it is just complete guesswork.
Report HappyHibby May 12, 2023 8:06 PM BST
some drift on Parc Na Thingy there...

tailed off obviously.
Report leif May 12, 2023 9:18 PM BST
Comment:In the form of his life when last seen; market could indicate readiness after an absence

not wrong thereMischief
Report penzance May 12, 2023 9:34 PM BST
Got 3 in @Haydock tomorrow.
Report leif May 12, 2023 10:53 PM BST
I like that BYker hurdler.
Have a feeling he wont be messing around with that un.
Report HappyHibby May 13, 2023 7:46 AM BST
The Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer examined Pairc Na Ngael, trained by C.Byrnes, at the request of the Raceday Stewards and reported the animal to be post race normal. Samples were taken for analysis.

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the fact it drifted on Betfair from around 7 to 40 something clearly was irrelevant.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! May 13, 2023 12:26 PM BST
NR Byrnes runner in the flat race
Devil
Report slickster May 13, 2023 1:38 PM BST
Creature shouldn't be allowed to enter horses in the UK. 2 great hurdles ruined today. Absolutely no bets for me.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! May 13, 2023 1:43 PM BST
First runner BEATEN
WELL
Laugh
Report HappyHibby May 13, 2023 6:15 PM BST
Creature shouldn't be allowed to enter horses in the UK. 2 great hurdles ruined today. Absolutely no bets for me.

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i tend to agree slickster.
Report par May 13, 2023 8:11 PM BST
watch 5.55 warwick and make your minds up about one in that race
Report HappyHibby May 14, 2023 3:25 PM BST
how many horses does Mcmanus have with this creature ffs ?
Report slickster May 14, 2023 3:38 PM BST
A match made in hell that's all I know.
Report gemini01 May 14, 2023 4:02 PM BST
Talk all you want about C Byrnes, but Nicky Henderson is every bit as good as him, with what i just saw there at Plumpton with Queens Rock 5/4 this morning and 4.77 on here BSP and ran accordingly, how is that much different to what Byrnes is doing and NO big forum discussion about ..........
Report freddiewilliams May 14, 2023 4:25 PM BST
Walofs Gemini. Did u make queen a 5/4 chance
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