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First horse to win both Irish and English Champion Chase twice

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By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 25 Apr 23 17:37
Credit where it's due, jumped poorly, looked beaten on the run-in, and rallied strongly to get back up.

A deserving win.
By:
jimnast
When: 25 Apr 23 17:39
Moscow almost did but narrowly beaten by rathgar beau at punchestown
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 25 Apr 23 17:48
My favourite chaser Sprinter Sacre won 3 and would almost certainly have won 4 but for an irregular heartbeat that kept him off the track.
By:
sageform
When: 25 Apr 23 17:49
Mullins cleans up almost E250k for having the first 4 home. Just one outclassed opponent. I have not bothered to watch Punchestown. That is not horse racing when one yard fields 80% of the runners.
By:
clacton
When: 25 Apr 23 17:51
Agree Sageform. Boring racing.
By:
know all
When: 25 Apr 23 17:58
nice 14/1 22/1 on here already so be a few suprises to come the 2nd against energuneme was very short in running even early on early on and it nearly came off i backed it to win and without the fav 33/1 and 7/1 he has a few nice prices and the multiple runners to fool a few but they all like the bigger prices now and again imo
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 25 Apr 23 18:02
I’m happy for Bloom…after Brighton lost on pens.
By:
jimnast
When: 25 Apr 23 18:07
Good job he entered them or it would have been a walk over ,great race to watch also ,
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 25 Apr 23 18:08
I get that Sageform but I enjoyed watching the race despite that and not having an interest in it either.
By:
Storm Alert
When: 25 Apr 23 18:23
Why do none of the British horses bother to go to this meeting?
By:
Mr Myxlplyx
When: 25 Apr 23 18:27
Energumene over the £1m today. Tom Lacey must be a bit queezy.
By:
Manoleeds
When: 25 Apr 23 18:29

Apr 25, 2023 -- 6:23PM, Storm Alert wrote:


Why do none of the British horses bother to go to this meeting?


Doesn't look like many racegoers either judging by the shots of the paddock and grandstand -mind you five days would be wallet and stamina sapping.

By:
jimnast
When: 25 Apr 23 18:29
Sprinter sacre went a few years ago and got a great reception.
By:
strontium
When: 25 Apr 23 18:35
Clan des Obeaux won the Gold Cup a couple of years ago. Bravemansgame runs there tomorrow.
By:
jimnast
When: 25 Apr 23 18:40
Paul Nichols does at least make an effort even at down royal
By:
penzance
When: 25 Apr 23 18:45
Love Envoi's entered there Saturday.
By:
saxon farm
When: 25 Apr 23 18:48
Yes penzance, Harry Fry often patronises this meeting.
By:
jimnast
When: 25 Apr 23 18:52
Twice won the stayers hurdle did harry
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 25 Apr 23 18:56
I can never agree about racing at this level ever being boring.  It is compelling, that;s what it is, and a fabulous spectacle.  It doesn;t matter who trains them.
Mullins is a genius and people want him to have their horses.  Hardly his fault that is it?!
By:
Mat22
When: 25 Apr 23 19:03
Well Said  Honcho!
Boring old farts on here have not got a clue.
we are spoiled really. always a great festival. Thanks to willy and his different owners for going for it.
By:
know all
When: 25 Apr 23 19:15
love it these festivals at least you already know who is going to win a great portion of the races so you already have a heads up, the really sad dire racing is the sunday tv sellers handicap racing coming up and that good friday was about the worst ive ever seen, bookie tv racing, this 5 days beats all that hands down marvelous stuff
By:
Hayden
When: 25 Apr 23 20:12
Great meeting and look forward to every year , some punters need to realize the depth of quality in these top stables rather than just play one dimensional by putting a line through all the second/third/fourth string runners then moan when one of them wins , they're all there running on their merits with live chances.
By:
sixtwosix
When: 25 Apr 23 21:22
Still got to win another QM to equal the incomparable Badsworth Boy .....many have tried , all have failed........
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 26 Apr 23 02:15
BB still the best technical hurdler I have ever seen.  Skipped over them as if they weren;t there with no change of stride.  Always a joy to watch.
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Apr 23 07:37
Price this race up Cheltenham 2mile good/soft

One man
Pearlyman
Badsworth boy
Sprinter sacre
Moscow flyer
Azertyuiop
Remittance man
Viking flagship
Altior
Master minded
Energuneme

I know crisp,Dunkirk and flyingbolt were also champion chasers but most of us never saw them.
By:
sageform
When: 26 Apr 23 08:11
I have seen all of those on your list and in my memory, Flyingbolt was different class. We can't compare what he beat with the placed horses behind the others of course but he won top class races from 2 miles to 3.5! Tom Dreaper kept him and Arkle apart but there would be no doubt in my mind that Flyingbolt would have beaten Arkle over 2 or 2.5 miles. The more recent ones were all good horses and in some years, there were 3 or more of a similar standard. I would just pick Moscow Flyer if they were all at their peak but Altior would be a close second. Pearlyman would be 33/1 against that lot. Just a decent handicapper who won in a weak year.
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Apr 23 08:23
Thanks for the input sageform ,which was the weak year pearlyman won as both the times he was champion chaser he had dessie behind him ?
By:
Bentring
When: 26 Apr 23 08:56
Thanks for the input jimnast
By:
Storm Alert
When: 26 Apr 23 09:27
Did Desert Orchid ever win a 2m chase going left-handed?
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Apr 23 09:32
He never attempted to storm .
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Apr 23 09:41
Mjk

Skymas also won both races twice but not in the same years.
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Apr 23 10:34
Sorry storm that should have said other than in the champion chase
By:
sageform
When: 26 Apr 23 14:33
Perhaps my memory is defective but I can't remember Pearlyman being considered as a memorable winner compared to the others on your list. He was clearly the best at the time but was he anywhere near Azertyuiop, Master Minded, Moscow Flyer, Viking Flagship (although Viking only won by smaller margins) Perhaps I undervalue him because he came up from the Grand Annual to the Champion Chase. Call Equiname was a good winner but was only right for one season.
By:
JJmbe
When: 26 Apr 23 14:47
Deep sensation, Marthas Son were about at the same sort of time used to be some great 2 mile races .
By:
Hayden
When: 26 Apr 23 15:20
Yes JJ some really good ones that didn't quite hit the limelight as well , thinking of the Fitzgerald pair of Sybillin and Comeragh King who both used to look as if they were grazing throughout the race.
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Apr 23 15:21
I can understand the grand annual reason sageform but he did carry a big weight when winning .
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Apr 23 15:23
Jj almost every time deep sensation ran it was  a cracking race Declan Murphy gave him a great ride in his champion chase year.
By:
jimnast
When: 26 Apr 23 15:25
Always that sybillin was an under achiever Hayden,very short in his novice year for the arkle when beaten by travado,same year as deep sensation won the champion chase
By:
JJmbe
When: 26 Apr 23 16:02
Remember sybillin winning at Cheltenham i had backed it. think it was odds on chance, one bookie went 5/2 in the photo it won brought back some great memories seeing the horses name had forgotten all about him.
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