Many at Newmarket?

Sadly Cheltenham had its own reason for a poor turnout today

No free tickets on RTV or reciprocals..shame

Zodiac was in the box with his gucci sock & tie combo,came on a 19 seater mini bus.

Just as a foot note: owns a 5 acre gaff and a snooker club in Basvegas,eats at  Alecs gaff regulary.

If they want more people to go, they shouldn't make it so far away.

When I've been there watching with bins, I found it difficult to see what was going on much before 5f out and even then if they were across the track, difficult to work out which side was in front . Maybe I needed Zeiss or Leica instead of a fifty quid pair . Are there any days when it isn't windy?

Good news Manoleeds. There are big screens and tellys in all the stands. Bin the bins.

as honcho says its those that run it who are the problem and that can be said about all jcr courses ,however the gravy train will never address the problem.

but you can wear what you like

Timberman

Annual members was rammed both days the crowd was slightly up Thursday despite awful card,I do think people are getting fed up with jcr racecourses

jimnast....I think you are correct about JCR tracks.

Been to Huntingdon and then Notts twice in recent weeks. a real air of decline and a couldn't care less attitude from a lot of the staff at both gaffs. Gives me the feeling JCR have given up the ghost, while at least ARC do make an effort with things.

Perhaps if they took a step back and thought about how to attract racing fans (instead of everyone else) through cheaper admissions they might see a turnaround.

No worries honcho

The knight

I wrote a long letter to the post last week regarding these bha ideas about smaller courses racing at 10 am and 4 pm in the summer which would wipe them out,I considered it a very fair letter but did criticise jcr in the letter as they were up for it,the letter wasn’t printed as far as I am concerned it’s because of my mild criticism of jcr.

The Pies...i am a season ticket holder at Notts. Cannot dispute the face value of the price but the first two meetings there this year have been dire. Small fields, no atmosphere and a rather hapless staff. Try getting a cafe latte in the team room under the stand!

At the last meeting there i asked the guy who runs the place if they would be finding space to put up boards trbuting the latest classic winners who debuted at the track. He did not know what i meant! Anyone who has benn to Notts and knows even a jot about rac8ng will know what i meant about the boards.

Like many JCR tracks, Notts is in a malise and I can only imagine you have not been there recently if you disagree.

2022 Tues 2638 Wed 3589 Thurs 2868

2023 Tues 2043 Wed 2538 Thurs 2950

Big drop over the 3 days

akajak have you got 2019 numbers?

It’s not the value for money,that the media try and make out.

6 hours of elite sport,comparable to other big sporting events,

But it’s not that simple,only 12 mins of actual sport,spend more cos waiting around for each race,90% bet,so admission isn’t the only cost.

Plus average midweek cards are like non league footy matches,6 hours got to eat and drink,plus bet.

Casinos give you free or cheap food and drinks,no admission.

But racecourses want to max out every item they sell,admission,food,drink,parking,etc.

Offer something at cost,admission or food,or drink,

A meal deal at tescos is 3 quid,swandwich,drink,crisp,

Why not give a free meal deal with price of entrance,fair enough,not the big crowd days,but all these midweek meetings,do they really need to sell burgers for 10quid.

Race card is effectively a copy of papers or post,but again 3-5 quid.no new content in there.
Just do a paper printed leaflet of runners,colours and give it away.

Every track just copies each other,max out every purchase,so rather than not eat or buy a race card,people just don’t go,
Which then creates the desire to fleece the few that do,even more.

Should be 20 quid,racecard,parking ,entrance,swandwich,drink.

It’s a day out,so have a day out price,

I’m sure reguarlars probably don’t buy any of these items anyway,so why fleece the few that do,trying a day out,then they don’t come back.

Certain tracks can do this,Chester is small,so can max out customer spend,always be fullish,hence chesterbet.

sure

2019 Tues 6671 Wed 4738 Thurs 5153

2022 Tues 2638 Wed 3589 Thurs 2868

2023 Tues 2043 Wed 2538 Thurs 2950

pretty grim

Here are some attendances . First figure is attendance, second no of bookmakers and third no of runners
Mon    27/03/2023    LINGFIELD PARK    433    11    67    Flat
Mon    27/03/2023    WINCANTON    1,104    14    61    Jump
Mon    27/03/2023    WOLVERHAMPTON    291    3    61    Flat
Tue    28/03/2023    HEXHAM            664    13    32    Jump
Tue    28/03/2023    HUNTINGDON    989    21    51    Jump
Tue    28/03/2023    WOLVERHAMPTON    205    4    75    Flat
Wed    29/03/2023    KEMPTON PARK    591    8    65    Flat
Wed    29/03/2023    LINGFIELD PARK    474    9    61    Flat
Wed    29/03/2023    MARKET RASEN    640    14    39    Jump
Wed    29/03/2023    NEWCASTLE    288    10    60    Jump
Thu    30/03/2023    HEXHAM            552    16    50    Jump
Thu    30/03/2023    TAUNTON            994    15    48    Jump
Thu    30/03/2023    WARWICK          1,249    23    58    Jump
Thu    30/03/2023    WOLVERHAMPTON    264    5    59    Flat
Fri    31/03/2023    LINGFIELD PARK    517    9    57    Flat
Fri    31/03/2023    NEWCASTLE    746    14    66    Flat
Fri    31/03/2023    SOUTHWELL    569    8    88    Flat
Fri    31/03/2023    WETHERBY    1,621    23    68    Jump

They do count owners badges and members - this is what it says under the figures on the HBLB website:

- Attendance = Paying Public, Members and Complimentary Badges.

Afaik, the only ones not included are jockeys, trainers, stable staff and press.