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harry callaghan
10 Apr 23 14:08
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Pulled 2 out today at fairy house. Was he ever going to run ash tree meadow or fakiera today?
Other owners must be sick with his sick tactics to stop others having a runner.

Who missed out today in Ireland?

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By:
cacique
When: 10 Apr 23 15:07
was there reserves? did they get a run
By:
harry callaghan
When: 10 Apr 23 15:10
Not sure cacique, hence the question mark?

But there must of been other runners waiting to get in Irish national yet he pulls the scam. He’s at it next week as well
By:
harry callaghan
When: 10 Apr 23 15:12
Sorry yes 3 reserves he prevented a run to today
By:
penzance
When: 10 Apr 23 15:17
Musical Slave-Philip Hobbs
Darrens Hope-Robert Murphy
Regina Decones-Thomas Gibney
By:
cacique
When: 10 Apr 23 16:14
thats bad alright..
By:
acey deucy
When: 10 Apr 23 16:18
There should be a limit as to how many runners a Trainer can have in these big races i dont think its fair at all.
By:
MJK
When: 10 Apr 23 16:31

Apr 10, 2023 -- 4:18PM, acey deucy wrote:


There should be a limit as to how many runners a Trainer can have in these big races i dont think its fair at all.


I'm sure you wrote strongly worded letters to several papers when Dickinson did it in the Gold Cup

By:
jimnast
When: 10 Apr 23 16:40
How do you tell an owner the horse you pay me a lot of money to train can’t run even though it’s qualified ?
By:
penzance
When: 10 Apr 23 16:43
You can't. Owners pay for horses to race.
Not Elliott's fault he trains 'em.
By:
DIFERENT GRAVY 12
When: 10 Apr 23 16:46
MJK

Did Dickinsons runners prevent others running? Did they fcuk!!!!
By:
jimnast
When: 10 Apr 23 16:47
Correct penzance ,in this years bumper Mullins had 10 that’s fine by me if he thinks they are all good enough to run,
By:
cacique
When: 10 Apr 23 16:52
you limit  the number of horses in training each trainer can have.... And then the owner can ask the question to the trainer "why is my horse in training with your 3rd assistant and i'm paying you full cost".

You then make the big races entry by qualification and bingo you have lots more racing with lots more trainers.

I'd also go for limiting the runners a trainer can have into grades of licence and grades of track.... eg grade A trainer cannot have a runner at a grade c track.
By:
acey deucy
When: 10 Apr 23 17:01
Like i said put a limit on it...It would encourage owners to spread there horses around a bit more and keep the smaller Trainers in business no?
By:
penzance
When: 10 Apr 23 17:01
How can you do that?
Costing trainers money in fees.Good trainers
will always get more horses.
By:
acey deucy
When: 10 Apr 23 17:04
I think it would be a great idea and am convinced it is only a matter of time before it happens.Plain
By:
penzance
When: 10 Apr 23 17:07
You pay £5K or £500K for a horse you want the trainer
of your choice to train it not someone elses.
By:
acey deucy
When: 10 Apr 23 17:11
You pay £5K or £500K for a horse you want the trainer
of your choice to train it not someone elses...........Could not agree less the big battalions are getting bigger and smaller Trainers going bust in droves its a no brainer in my book.
By:
penzance
When: 10 Apr 23 17:14
So you buy a horse and put it with a trainer you don't want.
Great logic.
By:
acey deucy
When: 10 Apr 23 17:18
So you dont give a sh1te about the struggling Trainer then penzance?
By:
penzance
When: 10 Apr 23 17:20
What's that got to do with it?
Fck all really.I'm not trying to dictate where a person has their
horse trained.
By:
acey deucy
When: 10 Apr 23 17:23
Elliott has 12 runners in Saturdays Grand National i dont think that is fair only my opinion.
By:
Cider
When: 10 Apr 23 17:24
The OP is complaining about Gordon NOT running them!
By:
acey deucy
When: 10 Apr 23 17:29
Yes but that is not my point cider.
By:
acey deucy
When: 10 Apr 23 17:30
Yes but that is not my point cider.
By:
Cider
When: 10 Apr 23 17:53
Even if you could come up with some kind of workable cap, no guarantee the beneficiary would be a 'small' trainer.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 10 Apr 23 19:44
You can’t limit a trainer entering as many horses has he wants,as long has his owners are happy,it’s a free market.although you d hope the trainer might tell you,his first string is unbeatable so you’re only running for place money.

Maybe you could limit the same trainer and owner running say more than 2,in certain popular hcps.filling places or controlling the weights should be deterred.

But imagine if 500 owners sent their horses to Mullins and every big race just became a Mullins race,so maybe a limit on entries or horses trained could be introduced,if Mullins has 500 queuing to be trained by him,he could just put his prices up to filter these out.

To be fair to Elliott today,there was a lot of non runners and only 6 finnished,so it just happened that way,the reserves might of withdrew,

Think this is a non issue.
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