Is this the way its going.

Scary Ronnie for sure.   

Hope it doesn't mean there was a record number of bets at £49.99 in a clumsy attempt to keep under a radar   

Forgot to say first time EVER the shop has not took a  50 quid bet on a day.

Ronnie.

Check yesterday's Donny results ronnie. Can you blame them..

Hayden .

Hope you are well sad to say very sad times sad to say an awful lot of shops takings a going through the floor.got a visit from the area manager this week did they mention how many bets the shop or  how much cash the shop is taking NO it was one of your posters is not straight.

Ronnie

ronnie, a wee question. Had I walked into your shop yesterday and put a ticket over the counter with a 1k bet on a 7/4 chance would it have been accepted?

SB

The answer is no if you asked for a carpet on you would have been ok.

Ronnie.

If you were a green customer who would have been given a coffee a cream cake had your shoes polished and been told you can have what you want on.

Ronnie.

And you wonder why no 50 quid bets..

I’ve always liked a bet in shop. Pre Covid I’d pop in every day. Now it’s twice a week maximum.

The shops don’t even try to compete with online any more. 20’s online, 16’s in the shop. Six or seven places online, five in shop. BOG either gone or on its way out in shops. There’s very little point in bothering any more.

The fobts would always be full. I rarely see people playing them now. Even the betting terminals are shocking value yet seem the most popular thing in the shops these day.

High Street bookies need to be tempting people in, not pushing them away.

High Street bookies need to be tempting people in, not pushing them away.



Simple solution there steve. Just tell the staff to take up to 500 on a 6/1 maximum shot....without phoning in..

Most shop punters want a tenner or less on. They want footy accas or Lucky 15s.  If anybody is trying to £500 on a horse then this place is the place to be doing it. Not in shop.

A coffee and a warm up is what High st bookies are for imo.

SK

a guy comes into the shop today and asks for a 600/500 on the Toon as advertised in the shop, send to PTL and sad to say he didn't get a cent on.

the answer is get Kenny back

Most shop punters want a tenner or less on. They want footy accas or Lucky 15s.  If anybody is trying to £500 on a horse then this place is the place to be doing it. Not in shop.



That's now. Go back thirty years and it was never a problem.

Apr 2, 2023 -- 8:05PM, ronnie rails wrote:

SKa guy comes into the shop today and asks for a 600/500 on the Toon as advertised in the shop, send to PTL and sad to say he didn't get a cent on.the answer is get Kenny back

THIS IS THE MOST PATHETIC THING I HAVE READ ALL YEAR.

Trying to have a monkey on a Premier League football side (2.34 machine when I checked for work ish)

NOT ACCOM

Seriously who is running these brainless operations? I like many others will never understand why they will never take a proper proper wager on an event where its IMPOSS to be a fix.

I feel sorry for the staff actually what a complete farce.

ims

the same guy also wanted a monkey on a short price one at Donny, it was well beat but when I said he couldn't have the bet on the Toon at 6/5 he said forget it and abruptly left a very unhappy punter, as I would have if I had been him.


The game has gone

Swad. the nearest billys to me was an absolute goldmine. 100 yards from a pub. Shut down 4 months ago. There will come a time that if you want to get say, 2500/1000 on a horse you will have to be on-course.

** Of course the game may go underground as it has done in the past when you had to pay 9-10% betting tax. There be no shortage of opportunists......gladly taking your bets in a pub. I've seen it for myself.



No tax but the overround in your favour..

never understand why they will never take a proper proper wager on an event where its IMPOSS to be a fix.



Hard to spread 600 around eleven Premiership players...

I expect if anyone had gone to the rails at Doncaster and asked for a £2000-£500 they would have got on…..

Would you like to see my p60…? Fk off your holding the Que….

Formy its all well and good but relate back to your argument 2 month ago when ironically I was at Doncaster.

Unless you are being a tight arris its £50 on exes min...

Carrying plenty of cash around...

Its not for me.

Getting on undetground is no myth...infact its quite easy...

If you have a winning stratergy they dont wanna know...its a myth that they will take anything.

The most successful undergrounds will only take a bet on highly liquid events...good luck beating them.

Apart from job losses of people I'd love them to shut all retail shops...

They are a complete waste of time and may as well be advertised as Casino's.

It truly beggars belief that bet wasn't taken, it's an absolute nonsense.

The most successful undergrounds will only take a bet on highly liquid events...good luck beating them.



Have to disagree and I've been there. I wont mention which side of the fence..

Still busy up here Ronnie and averaging out around £30K a week turn over from the betting terminals and over the counter bets. Just under 600 bets yesterday and 279 on the betting terminals.
Between 9 and 9.30 today over a thousand pounds on football bets on the machines. Lowest earner we have are the fobts.

monkey on a 6/5 wghilst 2.3 on the masheen and refused...absolutely beggars utter bee leaf.

Really steve? Try it some day.

Ronnie I got that ticket thanks, did pm you last week ...

Ronnie, not taking a 600/500 on any event let alone a Premier football match is hard to understand
Was 7/5 in baldy shop today, had a small bet on it myself, I'd be confident that I could have got a monkey on at 7/5 even if in 2 or 3 bets without referral
Although yesterday in same shop a stranger tried to have a 3 quid each way lucky 15 at BOG ,got phoned through and told 3 quid win only at sp

Long time no post Reg I trust you are well.

Yes stewy, just replied on your thread

Yes stewy, just replied on your thread

Formy and Stewy, Scottish B&B users me thinks.

Swad, original as per...

If only I had a violin. The poor bookies.

Affordability checks ARE 100% bookies not taking BETS. When will the Racing Post and the media understand this? You can't have a tenner EW sometimes in a big handicap. Racing is in BIG trouble.

Watch Swad on Twitter he’s actually a decent spud….likes a dig like most but 1.01 he doesn’t have a nasty streak

Unlike a good few I could mention….

The 600/500 punter should have wrote it out ten times as 60/50, hence getting what he wanted and satisfying the shops ambition to take £50 bets

Ronnie, What stakes do the machines take please, could I have £50 EW in the Lincoln yesterday? Before they spit out an error? It's been a while since I've been in a shop. CHeers

I’ve seen people sat there for ages pumping £20 notes into the betting terminals. Some people are betting hundreds if not thousands on them. I think £50 ew on a horse would be easily accepted. Piss poor prices though.

Trident.
Sorry for a late answer just got in after a very quiet day depends on the market shop laid a 2500/1000 in one of the ssbts on Friday. Edinburgh to win a rugby match it lost.

Ronnie.

shop laid a 2500/1000 in one of the ssbts on Friday. Edinburgh to win a rugby match it lost.

presume your traders had a quick gander on here and saw Edinburgh were over 3/1 .... big flashing MUG sign came on.  take as much as he wants, no affordability checks required !!!

Cant understand why they wouldn't take a monkey on Newcastle to win -after all it's the Premier League where there's hardly anything a clued punter knows that the oddsmakers don't. I would have thought they'd have loads of £5s and £10s on ManU because it's Man U and it would have balanced the books up.

why do you need to balance the books up ?  take the monkey and stick it straight back on here for a guaranteed profit.  unless you're laying over here on a PL match

Would it be too much to hope that the present bookmaker industry would be obliterated by zealous regulation and higher tax for that particular "trade". Racing would be the winner with better prizemoney and the amount of extra investment in racehorses would transform the industry. A golden opportunity to be grasped by all.

Anyone bemoaning a strong Tote/Pari Mutuel cannot argue against the success of all the successful "pool" racing jurisdictions around the world. For those believing that they would or could not bet into a pool system just remember just remember 99% of punters lose regardless of the many geniuses present here who never lose.

Wouldn't lay me £200 at 10/11 a snooker player in a major championship without phoning through, was then told the price was a mistake you can have 4/5 told them to stick it, feckin shambles.

they gave up on betting the day they wheeled the golden goose fobt's in.  no point taking £200 at 10/11 a snooker player when joe bloggs is busy sticking 10 grand in the fruit machine.

Apr 3, 2023 -- 9:55AM, formoftheace wrote:

Watch Swad on Twitter he’s actually a decent spud….likes a dig like most but 1.01 he doesn’t have a nasty streakUnlike a good few I could mention….

@s.kenbo

"Piss poor prices though"

Does that not depend on the bookie?  I *thought* (might be years out of date) that some brought the terminals in from a third-party (with piss-poor prices) and just took a rake for passing them the business whereas others had their own terminals which bet into their own books (where I'd expect the prices not to be a turn-off as they are using them as a way of automating the counter-staff's job and so cutting costs)?

Apr 3, 2023 -- 5:35PM, ronnie rails wrote:

Trident.Sorry for a late answer just got in after a very quiet day depends on the market shop laid a 2500/1000 in one of the ssbts on Friday. Edinburgh to win a rugby match it lost.Ronnie.

Thank You, seems it depends on the event then. Cheers

What is a betting terminal?

Is it  for cashless betting, like in the supermarkets with their automated check out?

Forgive my ignorance please, have not been in a betting shop since Methuselah's goat died.

SSBT - Self Service Betting Terminal

Imagine a machine that is like a bookie's website but a physical thing in a shop.

You can feed them cash or (these days, I believe) cards.

Corals had them in the 1990s when I was betting in their shop in the City - you cannot have not been in a shop since then, surely?

Thank you longbride, never seen one in the shop I used to frequent.

Must be more than 10 years since last in one. Live in the country so quite a drive to get to one.

asks for a 600/500 on the Toon?

Good news, I've cracked the code. The Toon in this instance is Newcastle football club?

Isn't Newcastle where Jack Carter went to sort them out?

No wonder they wouldn't take the bet.
They didn't know what he was on about.

Just for you Dr C https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/call-newcastle-toon-12917622
Jack Carter was from Newcastle originally but had gone down the smoke to work for a London firm -he came back to avenge his brother's death.

I think you’re right, Trident. Someone (possibly Dealer) has mentioned similar in the past I think. I’ve only ever used Fred’s before. They’re not worth it imo. If other bookies are doing it for themselves then the price might match their shop or online prices.

I'm gonna call b0llocks on the not getting a monkey on Newcastle at 6/5, even a red grade would get that if it was below betfair on Prem footy. Day of game

Thank you, Manoleeds.

I thought the Toon were a horse.

From experience I was having 'private' bets with people in the early nineties. Hard to believe but the one thing I and every bookmaker has in their favour is the draw. Take a Spurs v Arsenal game for example. 60,000 at the match and say 10,000 have a bet. 99% will stick their score or nifty on their team or better still for the bookmaker they will do first goal scorer and correct scores.


Some might remember The Magician on here. He made a fortune sticking 5k bets on the draw. He may have bailed out with 15 minutes to go, I'm not sure but he made enough to retire for a good while.

Or to simplify, there are three runners in a football match.