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geoff m
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not every horse is Marine Nationale.
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Report Bentring March 20, 2023 2:27 PM GMT
So ye didn't go to the wedding then
Report high_lander March 20, 2023 3:03 PM GMT
Disgraceful ride, hunted it round the back and cruised into 2nd without ever putting it in the race.

Looked like hard work stopping it from winning.

Obvious non-trier and no action from the stewards who surely must be in on it.
Report formoftheace March 20, 2023 3:11 PM GMT
Hype…..like most….look good on the snaff point and shoot…
Report differentdrum March 20, 2023 3:30 PM GMT
Didn't understand all the plaudits regarding the ride on Marine Nationale.

It was so much the best horse in the race all he had to do was keep it out of trouble.
Report formoftheace March 20, 2023 3:35 PM GMT
Exactly….
Report lead on March 20, 2023 3:58 PM GMT
Having kept an eye on BY YOUR SIDE since his Ed Dunlop days and backed for the Fred Winter last week(money back NR)I felt the early evening price(6/1)was too good......seems it wasSad...will they dare rock up at Aintree or Punchestown now after that..
Report high_lander March 20, 2023 4:39 PM GMT
How are they getting away with this? BYS was cantering at the rear cruised into 2nd was never put in the race. Surely that's a non-trier.

Obviously they're getting it ready for a punt but this is taking the p*** it should've won by a street, ridiculous.
Report MJK March 20, 2023 5:08 PM GMT
Towards rear, headway into 6th 3 out, soon pushed along, ridden and went 4th at last, improved into 2nd inside final furlong, kept on well close home but not reach winner op 10/3
Report punchestown March 20, 2023 7:29 PM GMT
Coming off 2 falls I'd say the lad was told to get the animal round safely,we know that shouldn't happen but it does and all over the place,just look at any big field Maiden Hurdle where about 6 out of 25 are trying and the rest at the back the whole way around.

It's just more obvious in small fields.
Report Cider March 20, 2023 7:49 PM GMT
Wrong horse, they are writing about By Your Side.
Report hulk23 March 20, 2023 7:55 PM GMT
fairly damning he thought they were talking about his ride on Fire Attack -

raced in last throughout, ran on run-in but never involved
Report high_lander March 20, 2023 8:37 PM GMT
I really wish punters would stop defending cheats. BYS was not ridden to win that much is obvious. Stop helping them steal our money.

Non-triers are commonplace, multiple times every single day. We need to fight back, call them out, sue them, highlight the issue, create a pressure groups.

Those responsible for policing the sport aren't doing their job, so the punters need to do it instead.
Report punchestown March 20, 2023 9:09 PM GMT
As long as it stays a closed shop it's not going to change,99% of the racing media terrified of saying anything negative or pointing the finger at a suspicious ride for fear of excommunication from the train.

Once in a blue moon the sherry drinkers haul a minnow over the coals to make it look like they're doing something but the big fish swim by.
Report differentdrum March 20, 2023 9:17 PM GMT
Correct, but that should read 100%.
Report mitolo March 20, 2023 9:24 PM GMT
how is it that sherry drinkers has become a term of abuse? it should be celebrated as sherry is a much under-valued sherbet. a fino or manzanilla is one of the greatest things espana has given the world.

its a marvellous thing
Report punchestown March 20, 2023 9:31 PM GMT
Correct, but that should read 100%.

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Ruby is not a million miles away from calling it out and I've heard him criticise a good few rides without accusing skulduggery yet as the motive for the poor ride but I think if jockeys rebuke him for having an opinion he's only going to go harder on them in future.
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how is it that sherry drinkers has become a term of abuse? it should be celebrated as sherry is a much under-valued sherbet. a fino or manzanilla is one of the greatest things espana has given the world.

its a marvellous thing

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LaughLaugh
Report high_lander March 20, 2023 10:08 PM GMT
Form pressure groups and sue the sh1t outa them, lawyers fees divided by thousands would be pretty cheap.

I'd love to see a thousand punters boo the jockeys of non-triers... shame them into doing the right thing.

As things stand how can you possibly have a bet when you don't know if your jockey is trying to win the race?
Report formoftheace March 21, 2023 8:36 AM GMT
high_lander,it’s been going on since day 1…….the game is rancid to the core…..if you boo a rider the tv brigade and journalists alike will frown upon you……

How many jockeys have been banned for being undesirable in the past twenty years or so ? Countless

You couldn’t make it up…..
Report formoftheace March 21, 2023 8:37 AM GMT
All in my humble opinion of course
Report high_lander March 21, 2023 12:00 PM GMT
Every punter needs to consider this... How can you possibly have a bet when you don't know if your jockey is trying to win the race?
Report hulk23 March 21, 2023 1:44 PM GMT
stand outside the weighing room and when they come out ask each if they're 'trying to win the race?' 

anyone says no put a line through it.
Report MJK March 21, 2023 3:30 PM GMT
^ If they wink, touch their caps and waddle their arms their trying. If they look to the ground, touch their shoulders three times and do the Cleese/Hitler walk then it's a no. If they drop their breeches, point to their backside and give you the finger it's a case of mind your own ****g business.
Report MJK March 21, 2023 3:31 PM GMT
*they're
Report workrider March 21, 2023 3:41 PM GMT
Lads I was there yesterday and thought he gave the horse a good ride , horse needs to be held up, smuggled it into the race nicely and allowed it to find its feet sadly the winner was much to good , he will ride it exactly the same next time of that I'm sure and hopefully win ..
Report geoff m March 21, 2023 3:54 PM GMT
Workrider he rode it way too confident & gave it far too much to do .His success of last week probably clouded his judgement. Obviously pace judgement will come with experience. A ride Jamie Spencer would have been proud of.
Report shoodacoodadidnt March 21, 2023 4:52 PM GMT
I'm with workrider on this one - and I see a gazillion non-jiggers most days - best horse won on the day
Report geoff m March 21, 2023 5:06 PM GMT
He shooda stayed closer he cooda stayed closer but he didnt.
Report lead on March 21, 2023 5:21 PM GMT
see what you did thereHappy...I agree but maybe that's what they wanted him to do!
Report geoff m March 21, 2023 5:23 PM GMT
and on that we will never know!!
Report shoodacoodadidnt March 21, 2023 5:31 PM GMT
Laugh
Report high_lander March 21, 2023 8:42 PM GMT
This is what we're up against, idiot punters who think jockeys don't fix races. You are the same low IQ eminently suggestable dolts who believe every single piece of propaganda from the BBC news. The same clowns who vote Tory even though they steal all your money and give it to the rich. Britain is well and truly f*****
Report mitolo March 21, 2023 9:00 PM GMT
suggestible. dolt
Report high_lander March 21, 2023 9:04 PM GMT
workrider, if you really were there, which I doubt, can you explain to me why that is relevant? Laugh
Do you think being there gives you superpowers? Did you see something that we couldn't see on Telly?
Report high_lander March 21, 2023 9:09 PM GMT
"Lads I was there yesterday" Laugh   That's the gayest thing I've ever heard iml.

Ohhh lads...  ooooh lads... ooooh lads Wink  oooh ooooh lads mmhmhm

You like your lads don't you workrider... ooh ooooh lads Laugh
Report high_lander March 21, 2023 9:10 PM GMT
Work is not the only thing you ride is it workrider Wink
Report mitolo March 21, 2023 9:23 PM GMT
youve heard a lot gayer than that you ydc. although you might have missed it with the wind blowing, as it does around gay doggy sites

rideworker is not a flannel-merchant
Report cloone river March 21, 2023 9:25 PM GMT
You did not vote for Brexit so high lander?
Report high_lander March 21, 2023 9:28 PM GMT
hulk23... terrible joke.
MJK even worse joke bc you tried so very hard but failed to be in any way funny.
mitolo... ah ur one of those correct ppls spelling a holes.
Report high_lander March 21, 2023 9:33 PM GMT
mitolo/workrider/MJK/hulk23... sock puppet city.
Report high_lander March 21, 2023 9:35 PM GMT
mitolo same dull humour is a giveaway...  "gay doggy sites" is that the best you can do? Cry
Report high_lander March 21, 2023 9:51 PM GMT
What's Brexit got to do with it? Excited  I'm all ears
Report mitolo March 21, 2023 9:53 PM GMT
correct spelling indeed. how would you judge a dolt? upon limited evidence, you described someone thus. upon greater evidence, i described you the same

dont chuck around abuse if you cant back it up. nobhead
Report mitolo March 21, 2023 9:57 PM GMT
actually, i can do a lot better. ive been to loads of em. ampstead eaf is still the best but the grass arena in edinburgh was an eye-opener for me. kilts are a great help obviously. you cant wear em in london without arousing suspicion

or me
Report high_lander March 21, 2023 10:11 PM GMT
Och aye and we all keep our shortbread in our sporrans laddie Happy
Report MJK March 22, 2023 9:18 AM GMT
To be fair to WR he looks nothing like John Inman
Report workrider March 22, 2023 10:19 PM GMT
MJK LaughLaughLaugh
Report high_lander March 30, 2023 9:16 PM BST
By Your Side finally wins a race the first time they actually try to win. See how better horse racing could be if they all just did what they are supposed to...you know, try to win.

If only the stewards/Jockey Club would do their job properly. If only...
Report formoftheace March 31, 2023 10:03 AM BST
Another hype rider
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