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I was hoping somebody would know which 3 races didn’t take place as there were only 15 that year due to Tuesday be abandoned.
Hopefully ged or anorak are around today
Hopefully ged or anorak are around today
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Hi Jimnast,wasn't it called off after the Gold cup won by Ten Up?
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Yes it was.
The 3 abandoned races were The Sun Alliance Steeplechase The County Handicap Hurdle The Cathcart Champion Hunters Steeplechase |
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Hello ribero a bit to long ago for me to remember that festival I’ve just been reading about the gay future affair and it comes up in that ,apparently arrests were made at the queens on the Tuesday when racing didn’t take place.
I know the ground was desperate when ten up won as I have seen that gold cup. Cheers Saxon so are you confirming what ribero says about abandoning the last 3 races after the gold cup I know when I started going the meeting finished with the Cathcart and the county hurdle which in my opinion should still do. |
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1975 was the year when the heavily-backed Irish hotpot Kilmakilloge got turned over by another well-backed Irish horse Bannow Rambler.
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That’s correct jimnast.
I was surprised to discover that The Cathcart in 1975 at least was the name given to The Hunter Chase! |
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Off topic a little, but the 70's was an incredible decade for Cheltenham Champion Hurdlers, Persian War, Bula, Lanzarote, Comedy of Errors, Monksfield, and maybe the best of all, Night Nurse. How would these run against the current favourite.
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It was actually a different Hunter Chase.
The Foxhunter Challenge Cup Steeplechase was run over 4 miles on the Wednesday and won by Real Rascal. |
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I attended the 75 gold cup was 16 god it was so cold and wet was soaked to the skin, I had backed a horse called Brown lad in the Sun Alliance always remember that.
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The 1975 Sun Alliance Chase probably goes into the record books as it was abandoned twice during Festival week - Tuesday then Thursday. But went ahead at the third attempt when it was run on the second day of the April meeting, won by Pengrail (Winter/Francome).
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Up to 1973, that second hunter chase over 3m 2f, had been run as the United Hunts Challenge Cup. In 1974, something had to be dropped from the program to make way for the new Joe Coral Golden Hurdle Final, and the United Hunts was the one to go.
Presumably there was uproar, so the original Cathcart Chase was altered to be a hunter chase - not sure how long that change lasted though. |
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Knot in wood brown lad went on to win 3 Irish grand nationals
Cheers anorak hadn’t realised that although I am aware the April meeting was and probably still is there in case of the whole meeting been postponed,also midnight court won the gold cup in April. |
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So did they race Tuesday anyone?
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No, there was no racing on the Tuesday, but most of the races were transferred to the following two days. One that was lost completely from the Tuesday was the N H Chase, aka the 4 miler.
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Bula emptying at the 2nd last is still my least favourite moment in racing.
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Cheers anorak that’s what the book said I thought it must be right.
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I'd forgot the Tuesday was off but it's come back to me now,2nd year myself and some pals had been,we ended up in the Lygon arms all day where they put on a "race night" in the afternoon
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You like the lygon arms
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Jimnast.
Didnt Mrs Smith get all her Tom stolen there one year. hope you are well. Ronnie. |
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I was there in what I think was 1977. First day was torrential rain and high winds all day. Marquees were blowing down.
Skymas won the Champion Chase |
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Another little fact about Chltenham that year was that 5yo Sea Pigeon was down to run in the Champion Hurdle, trained by GW Richards and to be ridden by Ron Barry. He was a novice, and was 4 from 4. He was jt 3rd fav in the morning paper behind Comedy Of Errors and Lanzarote. In the event he was a non-runner, presumably on account of the ground.
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Haha Jimnast,remember when we we started going to the festival,didn't know the area and a guy in the pub said you lads should go to the Lygon Arms so we used to go for a drink every night ans sometimes most of the night,grat atmosphere like loads of gaffs in those days,always fancied staying
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just found the racecard for the wednesday and Brown lad won the now stayers hurdle, was pretty sure he was going to turn out again on the thursday in the sun alliance chase but perhaps it was another good irish horse Davy lad.
just wasted a hour of my life there  |
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Yes I think that’s correct Ronnie if I remember right not that long ago I think black jack ketcham was in training.
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Hope your well to Ronnie
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My early festivals I stayed in the old new inn ,in bourton on the water ribero it was great fun ,I stayed in bourton for the bula meeting a few years ago it was like gods waiting room.
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Yes, Brown Lad was down to run in the Sun Alliance Chase. He was 6/4 fav in the morning paper. Davy Lad won the Sun Alliance Hurdle before the abandonment.
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thanks ged( you know everything)
stayers on the wednesday and sun alliance chase 24 hours later, you lucky if they run 2 times a season now. |
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Yes Jimnast some cracking village pubs/hotels in those days,just had a little break down there for Saturday's racing,while not expecting many there for racing the Cotswolds in particular seem to be doing very well out of all this health wellness fad,everywhere rammed with couples going walking with their dogs and spa weekends of course,very little sign of this cost of living crisis.
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No sign of a recession then ribero
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I read an article by the ceo of Nat west he said private accounts have never been as healthy.
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Ribero
could you believe the Montpellier wine bar has closed for good, as as the top class Indian over the road where you and Hank used to frequent. just thinking nothing lasts for ever. hope you are well. Ronnie. |
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Bit of a tangent, but does anyone know anything about Avec Moi who won the 1974 equivalent of the Supreme Novices?
Maybe it was a shocking renewal, but he went off a very short price favourite off the back of just two novice hurdles. If he ran on the Flat he couldn't have been that good as he started at 33/1 for that jumping debut. I couldn't find anything for him in the following season. |
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Indeed Jimnast,hi Ronnie,didn't know that,obviously not ventured down there for some time ut used to be great fun.
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Montpellier wine closed that is surprising Ronnie thought that would still be going strong although many years since I was in that area
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Is the Montpellier newsagent still there ronnie ?
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Jimnast
Sad to say the newsagents gone. |
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The last entry I can find for Avec Moi was a disapointing run in the 1976 Kingwell Pattern Hurdle behind Lanzarote.
I think there are 1975 references if you need them. |
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Avec Moi it appears missed the 74/75 season with an injury
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Ronnie it was in that newsagent I found out about the dunblane massacre,incredibly a full 24 hours after it happening with the India Sri Lanka World Cup semi final and the festival taking place news from the real world did not get around back then.
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