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roggrain
21 Jan 23 18:36
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given days for raising the whip above shoulder height ?

When has he not?

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By:
formoftheace
When: 21 Jan 23 18:38
Every time..
By:
sparrow
When: 21 Jan 23 18:59
They might as well do away with the whip rather than all this playing around with the rules on how and where you should hit the horses.
By:
formoftheace
When: 21 Jan 23 19:02
I’ve seen a few on the stifle from experienced riders….
By:
Hushwing.
When: 21 Jan 23 19:04
he was brutal again on that poor 9yo gelding
just 2 days though but well done stewards for once, if only the others would punish accordingly.
By:
formoftheace
When: 21 Jan 23 19:06
He blocked me because i asked if he claimed 7lb

His sidekick Chapman blocked me as well…..gutless imo….
By:
isleham
When: 21 Jan 23 21:22
most jockeys seem to whip horses in the wrong place
By:
G Hall
When: 21 Jan 23 21:30
How many arc winners have you ridden.
By:
sparrow
When: 22 Jan 23 09:44
By Jonathan Harding

A total of 43 rides would have fallen foul of the revised whip rules during the first week of the bedding-in period for jump jockeys, according to data from the BHA's new three-person whip review committee.

Between January 9 and 15, 28 riders were referred for offences that would breach the new rules when they are implemented over jumps on February 6 and each was informed of their hypothetical penalty.

Of the 44 offences, 29 were for the use of the whip above shoulder height and were committed by 19 individual jockeys from a possible 168, although 15 of the referrals for this breach related to just five jockeys.

The BHA said more clarity has been added to this existing rule. Under the new guidance, a penalty will apply after one use above shoulder height, without leeway, and has been set as a four-day suspension. It has argued this brings it more in line with other major racing nations.

Ten of the breaches were for rides in which the jockey used the whip above the permitted level, which has been reduced under the new rules, and one of them in a Class 5 handicap would have resulted in disqualification, with the whip being used four times over the level.

"The bedding-in period is in place to identify any further practical considerations regarding the new rules and guidance, or areas that are going to require greater adaptation from some jockeys. Clearly one of those areas is in relation to the use of the whip above shoulder height," a BHA statement read.

"Use of the whip above shoulder height was identified by the Whip Consultation Steering Group, and many of the jockeys spoken to through the consultation, as an area where it is accepted that significant improvement in riding style is needed.

"Greater clarity and increased penalties for these sorts of offences were explicitly requested by jockeys and they have accepted that they are responsible for riding within the new rules.

"The proposed changes to the guidance bring Britain into line with many other major racing nations. We will continue to liaise with jockeys and the Professional Jockeys Association through the bedding-in period."

The new whip review committee has been implemented as part of the ongoing changes around the whip rules, with on-course stewards referring rides to the board to assess each week before any bans are handed out, rather than the sanctions being dispensed on the day.
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 22 Jan 23 09:50
Sweden banned the use of whips in horse racing from April 2022, but they were not allowed to be used on 2 year olds before this.
By:
sparrow
When: 22 Jan 23 09:54
Andrew.in.Sweden 22 Jan 23 09:50 
Sweden banned the use of whips in horse racing from April 2022, but they were not allowed to be used on 2 year olds before this.







How has that affected the sport Andrew?  Are people in support of the changes or against?
By:
formoftheace
When: 22 Jan 23 10:05
Most of them still hit the stifle in a close finish….

Seb Sanders also pointed this out…..not good…imo
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 22 Jan 23 10:10
Sparrow

It's difficult for me to comment accurately as i don't go racing up there these days (i have done in the past) but knowing Swedes and Sweden as i do (after over 2 decades living/working up there) i would say it's accepted without any objections. Oddly enough, they are allowed to carry them.

Swedes are really into health and safety big time, even for minor issues that maybe Brits wouldn't even think about.
By:
LoyalHoncho
When: 22 Jan 23 10:23
Chapman clearly has good taste.
By:
sparrow
When: 22 Jan 23 12:26
Thanks, Andrew.  I think you're right about the differing attitudes of the Swedes and us but wonder about the future of Racing and whether their way might secure that future.
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