Are supermarkets ripping people off!

Look at the Roundtree Foundation data on the subject; the vast majority have absoultely nothing....are they all feckless fools?
Even the birthrate isnt sustainable now, people are deciding not to have kids, the ramifications to the economy will be severe.

This has long been about capital being too greatly rewarded in relation to effort.
You can be a wideboy chancer and get lucky and pay no tax at all (ISA stocks and shares) while those working numerous badly paid jobs cant even find the time to cook proper meals which is a downward spiral.

(on the above post....replacing meals with pasta and rice is a sure fire way of developing type 2 diabetes

The Roundtree Foundation is deeply liberalist, so any data set they have has been created to create a specific narrative. I would need to review it, but needs to be taken with a large grain of salt, the same as any deeply conservative think tank.

I don't really buy that argument at all. Anybody should be aiming to have a stocks and shares ISA, it's not about getting lucky, it's being sensible. Since it's limited to £20K a year, highly unlikely there will be enough earnings to live off.

You can't change what you start with, but you can sure change what you end with.

I know a retired ex copper, who owns a 400k house and has a decent pension. He pays a tenner a month to a foodbank and gets back 50 quids worth of food a month. I have told him he is a qhunt!

Ps    He sends his wife to collect the food.....tw@t!

Nearly all of us are only six months to a year away from hardship if life takes an unexpected turn.

Cider, read the book 'Fooled by Randomness' by Nassim Taleb
Anyone who thinks their good fortune is down to skill alone need a wake up call.

Far from it dusty. If you were born to Rishi's family, and went to Winchester, you're pretty much guaranteed to be sorted for life. That's not the point. Anyone born in the UK at least has the opportunity to be sorted for life. It's not luck, or skill needed, it's mostly determination. tbf the internet is a leveller too, with access to unlimited information and resources that certainly weren't available when I was growing up. Just because some people were born luckier than you doesn't mean you just give up and accept the lot you were handed at birth.

If talking stocks specifically, what's needed is discipline, not luck. The average will beat almost all managed portfolios. Some of the best performing portfolios are dead people as they were never tempted to change or sell.

If anyone interested, this is a great yt series to view. Quite old now but still applies.

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM4KEJQ_Z5U

Firstly its cronyism why people do well for 'no reason' beyond the expected norms of education and hard work.

Secondly, you can have the best theory in the world, get next to everything right and simply get the timing wrong (which is chance) and lose.

Its correct that the return on pretty much and indecies compound would have returned a hansom profit, its an argument I have made also in the past....the problem is its the past, the period of growth linked to the USA period of exceptionalism.
The future is turbulent and recession ridden. There wont be many 'easy picks' where winners make profits by 'skill'.

On the case of hard work....again thats utterly disingenuous.
To say people today arnt working hard enough is insulting. The greatest gain in the last generation has been tech driven, simply because the human has got no further to be taken advantage of, they have reached their peek.

A person can have the good fortune of having a reasonable IQ. Is that also an attribute of the person's making, no ofc it isnt. But the IQ will generally mean on a law of averages they wont have to work as hard as those with a lower one.
So the water level rises through general economics and growth requirement to cater for growing populations....and the expectation of how much somebody must suffer increases....generally judged by people such as yourself who got lucky not to be having to do what you did now in an ever more difficult environment.

There is analysis going back decades, be fore the great depression. Business still make returns and there is capital to be made from those returns, even in bad times. The ftse 100 has barely budged over the last two decades but if you had been putting in £100 pcm for those 20 years you'd still be laughing, with dividends reinvested via a tax sheltering vehicle. Obviously there is potential to play the game actively, but I would suggest a lay person puts £100 pcm in a 100% equity, globally diversified passive fund via a low cost sipp aged 18, and forget about it until the earliest they can draw on it.

I didn't state that people aren't working hard enough. I'm stating that anyone moaning isn't working hard enough to achieve what they want. Unless you do actually believe in entitlement? The IQ argument is a nonsense as well as people can easily acquire practical skills and still earn plenty. We had six classes per year in my secondary school. A friend of mine was in the bottom class and had little academic aptitude. But he took a job after leaving @16 with BG and learned to be a gas engineer. Ended up with his own business, employing others to do the fitting and he was easily clearing six figures a year. If you wait around for people to give you the money and the success, it could be a long wait.

I actually got chatting to the chap that came repair my boiler after I stopped getting hot water. He told me he was clearing plenty, he was a freelancer. He did six or seven jobs a day for the insurance companies and got over 100 per job. No shortage of work whatsoever. I won't even tell you what my decorator charged per hour for labour (a lot) and there's more work around my way than they can cope with, 8 months lead time at the time after ringing around, some of them not even willing to do a quote they were so busy.

You have just made my point; that you were fortunate to have been born in a time where anyone could make a decent living above what work pays now.
In general paid work hasnt kept up with ROI, as you outlined capital returned well in the past, shareholder value maximisation saw to that by crushing the worker.
It was all down to investment, people with money expecting ever greater returns while doing nothing, its pretty close to being a ponzi when the areas of innovation and worker decimation dry up.
Ive said it before but theres a perfect storm now and its all hitting at once, the jovial times are over and the lights on the boat are flickering, next it sinks and whether it takes you with it you cant possibly know yet.
As with the example you cited that even in bad times profit can be made....unless you happened to have lose everything in a crash that is, the good fortune element again, if you were in the markets when it went, you lost possibly everything what you had in it, if you happened to have sold up, then you were lucky and able to purchase cheap assets....but isnt that what those who stick the fork in the sausage do who are in the corridors between politics and enterprise> I say absolutely yes.

I read your type of comments quite often, they tend to be the type who would short the national currency and burn any bridge they could if it looked after your personal interest.
Tradesmen will continue (for now) to be able to make a decent wage. But at the point capital expenditure with the likes of AI radically change even the supposed protected area of human intuition and creativety their employment will vanish along with their trade. As Kurzweil said, technology will rob everyone of their asperation by advancing faster than the human can learn a job/career.

Your hard work examples are from a dead age, more and more will be at the liberty of those deciding whether the excess should be given money to do nothing or something far worse....

On that point of 'Im alright Jack so everyone else should be'....there simply are not the opportunities even if everyone were encouraged to take up the roles you mentioned. What are effectively niche areas meet the required equilibrium of those finding the posibility, until its over subscribed.
Meanwhile the rest see their self employed venture go broke (as is happening right now) or the cost of living through inflation that wasnt transitory makes all work decidedly miserable.

mrcombustible 03 Jan 23 18:46 
I know two recent rentals in London

Greenwich 2 bedroom terrace house , went on the market for £2,000 a month in September and rented a day later at £2,315

Hounslow 3 bed Semi  £1,950 let mid December

how does normal people afford them prices?

You're just guessing. Nobody knows what returns will be over the next decade. It's the kind of attitude actually, that it's a waste of time, the good times have gone, we've all missed out is exactly why people miss out if they believe you. But, I can only suggest, people need to make their own decisions and choices. Personally I feel that the US was overvalued, but the UK has been undervalued so I'm weighted away from the US. But a novice would be best off just weighted globally imv.

I don't know what the bottom wage for a basic job was twenty years ago, but it certainly wasn't the equivalent of £10.42 an hour. There wasn't LISA's, there wasn't HtB. There wasn't 40 year mortgages. There wasn't 1% interest rates. There wasn't shared equity. There wasn't UC. There wasn't regular cash handouts for the 'vulnerable', or free food in every town. People need to use whatever is available at the time to their best advantage. I fear we will be in the same circular argument as you appear to have concluded that it's all bad for most people currently, there's no way out for them, and I essentially disagree.

There are opportunities for anyone who wants to acquire those practical skills currently, for anyone who has the gumption to acquire them. Plenty. That's the point. They think they are entitled to it sitting indoors on their backsides waiting for Deliveroo. This is one of the delightful side effects of social media. Come back to me when there are no opportunities, it might be a different discussion.

It was about £5 an hour for menial work, but average inflation for that period would have been around 4-5% for that period, that makes up the wage increase but it doesnt cater for the extra work imposed as those employed were expected to do more.
LISA are about 5 years old, and have strick age guidelines, as do the pitiful HTB versions that limit amounts to be saved but I take your point, that there are forms of help encouraging saving, yeah if they had no kids lived with their parents and didnt dare take anything that cost money. $0 year mortgages....well given that everyone was encouraged to use the asset catagory as a revenue stream and on average 190,000 too few properties were built each year to meet demand that they would need much longer to pay off the debt for the inflated cost. Interest rates have been forced down by bond yields that have averaged down from 1350 till today....that encourages debt, debt isnt good.
Universal Credit doesnt get paid to anyone who has the audacity of owning over 6k in savings. As for 'hand outs' The EU didnt bail out like the UK/USA and still had almost as bad recent inflation- proof it wasnt ready cash that sent up prices, it was energy. As stated about food banks, the median wage gets you by, depending on individual circumstances but not much more and you need to live like a monk...but you are essentially saying everyone must because you did.
Yes opportunism (even though its not a virtue) does look like the argument required to justify your condesention of workers, its a funny thing opportunity. The right winf love to glory in it as an example of a properly working system where chance encourages seat of your pants growth....yet to be called 'opportunistic' is a slur, work that one out.

Ive said it before but it fits so...
Also count the cheap housing, free education, job for life and guilt edged pensions....all decimated since your day.

Stevie - a pal of mine was working and living down the smoke circa 99-2003 - he followed his then girlfriend down there - he commu ted to West Ruislip from Stoke Newington every day where he his g/f her brother and anutha lodger rented in a 3 bed upstairs flat above a local foreign owners shop - the place was an absolute sh1thole and yet they were stumping up £750 a mth 99 which rose to over £900 by 2003 when he decided to come back home .Visited him down there a cupla times and i'd never seen nowt like it - he had to double park every night in the road wiv his car basically parked towards middle of the road wiv anutha parked on his right side in normal parking space - you can imagine the logistics etc involved in people being able to get their cars away and running on time for their journeys to work etc evry day - nee wonder they all go about stabbing each other down there nowadays cos i can see that sort of thing causing plenty of grief

Its my view that they are the manifestations of the continual coin clipping of a system that just does not work. Like zero hour contracts and insecure work or PT instead of FT...these are the cracks that appear when the books dont balance.

Its pretty similar In ireland if its any consolation. All sorts of food items including basics like milk gone up 30/40% and its worse for those buying what were cheaper items like burgers for one euro now nearly 2 euro etc.
Ireland has a very good education system is one saving grace with 60/70% of twenty year olds university educated so they can get good jobs and survive.
Those unqualified though are paid minimum wage by in many cases greedy employers who already have loads of money and dont care if their staff have nothing.
Ireland has a very generous welfare system though 220 euro for a single person and 146 for partner if applicable, 366 euro for both and 42 euro per kid which give a unemployed family of 3 kids 492 euro weekly and 90% rent paid !!, no problem with this for those who have worked and paid into the tax system but we have a sizeable rapidly growing ethnic irish group who milk this system without ever doing a days work which is ignored by government .

The public in general seem to have accepted it though and still spending and get the feeling some suppliers may have put there prices up as they've seen the public reaction and realise they can get away with it? hadn't had fish & chips for ages but got fish and chips and peas the other day £9.60,no idea if that's fair or risen dramatically?
Presumably things will quieten down as usual now but restaurants pubs etc been very busy for months in our area and heard plenty saying "isn't there supposed to be a cost of living crisis?"

Has the OP been asleep for the last 12 months?

It's no doubt the same all over the U.K.  but supermarkets and local stores close to me are reporting unprecedented rises in shop lifting. Not booze, fillet steaks, salmon etc. but baby food, nappies, washing machine capsules, pet supplies and so on.I

Brixton is a mere 10 minutes drive to the houses of parliament and the foodbank there operates voucher system so as to ensure everyone gets a fair share of what they need.

It's completely heartbreaking.

Most stuff is nicked to be sold on, via shops or car boot sales. Not for their own consumption. Those things you list are expensive and easily fenced. I was a stock manager in a central London supermarket back in the day. When I first started there I could see half of my stock being sold at the local market lol. The scrotes will go after anything so you can guard the obvious stuff like steak then they will target other stuff like nappies and washing caps, you can't watch every corner of the store. 

The difference I believe now is that the feds don't want to know, we got loads of the fookers nicked. One of them swallowed a razor blade in from of us in the office after we apprehended them, waiting for the feds to turn up. We did have an emergency button and fair play they would be there in a couple of minutes.

I remember paying 50p for a pint of milk, a few months later it was 89p, chocolate bar in Morrisons went from 50p to 90p, bleach went up 25%, its shocking, cod n chips now where I live is £13.50!!

They blame Spewtin…

Ffs

The fuel prices were a rip off for a while but are finally coming down quickly reflecting the falling oil price. Still around 170p for diesel which affects the transport of all goods to supermarkets. I don't have access to historical prices but Lamb ex farm is now £5 per kg, beef £4, pork £1.90 and nitrogen fertilizer £700/tonne. When I ceased farming in 2000 the equivalents were £1.50, £1, £0.65 and £120. Most of the increases have been in the last 12 months. The biggest rip offs in my opinion are paper and tissues. I suspect that a loo roll costs about 5p to make, the rest of the price is packaging, transport and profit. And they don't need refrigeration like meat!

During covid petrol was £1.09 at a Morrisons in Bathgate…

try taking a pet to the vets..

extortion is an understatement.

A massive transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich has and is still taking place.....they wont be happy till we aint got a pot to wee in

almost entirely an idiot fred

supermarkets drove prices down for decades and food in the uk has been too cheap for too long because of this, for reasons few of you will understand but supermarket buying power and keen competition is one of them. you could exist on 20 quid a week if you were so minded(i was. always hated 'wasting' money on food when i could gamble or have sherbet instead). staples like bread and tins of beans were artificially inexpensive and the food and agribusiness margins were tightly squeezed. people have become so used to under-priced food this has been a stark awakening.

if it is 'poor' people who cannot afford to feed themselves why are they so fat? and takeaways are fiercely expensive yet its the tracky-wearers who populate them. the real strugglers are not those on benefits-its the ones in low paid jobs that are. they get their housing costs paid which in london is crucial. thats why its chocka wiv bedsits.

Anal lube used to be a quid from Poundland, they don't sell it anymore so it must have gone up!

Crikey mitolo gets something correct,who would have guessed? WD mitolo.

Crikey mitolo gets something correct,who would have guessed? WD mitolo.

now re-thinking my opinion

does after a viagra..

my local shop a nisi /co op just over the road i dont use it much only for small items i have run out of as its expensive it has a" chav" estate a few mins walk from  it ,went in the other day to get a bag of sugar and a chavvy  bird was in front of me at the counter she bought 40  cigs a pack of rolling tobbacco 6 cans of lager a bottle of vodka and 5 scratch cards and a loaf of bread and 4 litres of milk came to near on £70  .

Any food nicking in Dulwich Village? The shops are so posh even one has to watch one's accent being a non-local. No supermarket I believe however, there's a bus stop just a few yards opposite the post office.

And, this is one place I'll dearly love to retire to, but no chance unless I win the lottery.

I bet in Dulwich Village it's not called a supermarket but a food emporium.

Tesco's Club Card scheme with its now enormous premiums paid by non-members is a taste of the future. Once the government start to ramp-up introduction of central bank digital currency there will premiums like that just for using cash

vets dont half put it on ,eye drops and eye cream  in tiny 5 mm bottles for my dog plus the consultation £75  ,found the eye drops on amazon  for   £6  .

correct life lucky. If you don't take advantage of offers, it costs you a lot more. My weekly Tesco shop of around £50 for two people has about £5 knocked off as I choose the clubcard deals when available. And as for those who still pay double for brands such as Nescafe, Cadbury etc. they must have more money than sense.

Caught a good deal on me shop today. Long odds against that they actually turn up

those coffees from starbucks or costa fook me eyewatering what they want for one ,i have never bought one but my son does every now and then

my son has just informed me that starbucks write your name on the cup .................what name they put fookin rothschild !

Aldi reported 25% increase in profit last year, why bother at all with the likes of tesco?

People have very short memories, tesco had a shocker only a few years back where they were found to have been breaking supplier's balls and bullying them over pating for their products and at the same time were fined for cooking their own books.

*delaying payment for supplier's products

because aldi is sh1te. as is tesgo and coop. sainsburys ok as are s&m and waity, which is worthwhile if only for the pulchritude of some of the staff. the one in kensington has some proper crumpet

There was a lady who worked in Cannon St station M N S, dear me looked like Miss World, always waited for her to mooch about before I got my yellow label stuff

Nowt wrong with Aldi, just people’s perceptions of it.
You might not get the same stuff week in week out a bit like Del Boy, whatever they got that week, but it’s generally cheap
And who cares if it’s called something different to the name other brands chose to call their product?
I defy anyone to tell the difference in a taste test between expensive fabric conditioner and aldis

Dishwasher tabs, what are they, something like 2p a tablet?

They don’t know us..they don’t care…ripped off night and day

Bargains are a myth….

Impossible & Lovegod, there are two M & S in East Dulwich, Lordship Lane area, a Tesco and Sainsbury "local" by Herne Hill train station. In the village is a "Simply Fresh" foodstuff shop, a local bakery called Gail's which is very good if paying £5-£6 quid for a loaf is your thing. Shop lifting in Mark's would a easy enough if you were that way inclined. No hotties though, more 50's plus I would say.

The pub is the Crown & Greyhound which, as I'm teetotal, I never go in there and the menu is priced as if it were in Monte Carlo or similar, a complete rip off.
A very poor Greek restaurant and other assorted outlets, book shop, flowers and so on

D.V. is nice but quite unremarkable really all said and done, not that posh, I find all that b.s. quite nauseating actually. It's popular because of the schools more than anything, and the golf club up the road as well I suppose.

The Picture gallery is absolutely excellent though, been there a few times and Dulwich Park is cool as well.

Someone showed me the difference between Norpak vs Lurpak the other week , scanned through all the ingredients and no difference to the naked eye.

Norpak £2.29 vs Lurpak £4.75 for a replica size.

Anyone else played spot the difference with those two ?

Norpak 40% butter - Lurpak 60% Butter - both 500g

Matter of taste at the end of th eday and less butter possibly means it is healthier [debatable].

Norpak-£2.29- Lurpak anywhere between £4 and [of course £5.25 from the Highwaymen at the, "It's what we do" Co-op] -what they 'do' ought to be made a crime

Aldi does loads of the rip offs
The pringles rip off are just the same.
Meat is meat, you cant make that cheaper unless you start killing dogs....and eggs are missing they hardly ever have those now
But seeded loaf, 79p in Aldi, youd be paying 2 quid for that in sainsburys

Thanks Leif 

Lurpak is best by a country…the other can be vomit inducing on toast…imo..

Lurpak eater since time began

leif 06 Jan 23 15:00 
Norpak 40% butter - Lurpak 60% Butter - both 500g


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I don't understand people paying full butter prices for butter mixed with cooking oil, laziness apart.

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Acey, try Lidl Deluxe West Country butter, you'll change your mind.

Bisto gravy granules the big mover in asda stenhousemuir, now £4

I let the other half shop….I’m on the sofa calling food and beer….

Bisto gravy granules the big mover in asda stenhousemuir, now £4

you're robbing yourself

which one do you buy? how many grams, beef , chicken etc?

Large not sure grams and beef £4,small the same was £3

Didn't buy it,

lidls fresh  bakery counter offers  superb value .........love those small  crusty  rolls you used to get in posh restaraunts 19p each !

on  energy prices , i used to leave 2  lights on  overnight as the stairs  are quite steep from my bedroom to the bathroom and i like to have some light to negotiate them safely but i noticed the 2 lights on were costing about 75p  a night on the leccy meter  which dont seem much but over a month or a year it adds up ,anyway i found some motion sensor solar  strip lights on amazon for £6 each  that you can charge on a mobile  phone charger or small solar pad  bought 3 stuck one in the downstairs khazi one in the hall covering the stairs and one in the bathroom they work really well and when they run out you just give thnm a charge up for a while .

My missus has been buying a lookalike Lurpak from Morrisons. I had no idea until I noticed the writing on the tub one day, it looks so similar. I told her I didn’t like it and could tell the difference. She then pulled up her shopping order for the last three months to prove how long I’d been eating for without complaint! All the ‘how was your pack-up today’ talk suddenly made sense.

They said the petrol should be £1.30 and diesel should be 1.50 but reductions haven't been applied. Nothing seems to be regulated these days, can do what they like unchallenged by an in caring govt. Most of the food hikes are related to oil prices, so it's like for like with reductions not being added, anyone fancy a revolution?

Go back to mitolo's post for reality and that reality is still the case in terms of your supermarkets,artificially cheap prices!!

I love the bakery section at 'Lidl. Not only are they fresh, they are tasty and cheap. As such, I tend to overbuy not just for myself but friends too eg plain buttered croissant (I love them); jam doughnuts (not caster but fine icing sugar) and chocolate doughnuts for friends. Their baguette are pretty decent too. Also, I prefer their deluxe crisps over Walker's or Kettle's. But, stay off their fruit and veg - they have a short shelf-life.

Apart from being either pre chilled or frozen before baked impossible? Nothing wrong with that other than you could learn what "Fresh" means if you got outside the UK bubble?

Its called the great reset
Here we are

Aldi really is poor i've let the missus know and she told me to do the shopping.

About half of the snides are abso rank and the other half you cant tell the difference at all.

Morrisons post xmas rises means I only buy the excellent Wonky fruit and veg there , tremendous value , similarly as was stated previously Tesco Clubcard stuff and anything of their Growers Harvest brand . Plus if the prices are insane then just buy the cheapest of anything or buy the offers and freeze . And 6 pints of milk with 10 days to drink it is still cheap .

Meat is meat! What a sweeping statement! So many factors can affect the quality of meat. It does not follow that the most expensive is best but it is certainly not a uniform product. Millions of research pounds have been spent on things like carcass hanging time and temperature, transport of live animals prior to slaughter, cooking methods etc. and of course the age of the animal at slaughter has a major effect. In general as a farmer, I would recommend buying the cuts of meat that have had the price reduced as it approaches the sell by date. A steak that has sat on a shelf at the correct temperature for a week will taste much nicer than one that was put there today. If you see a nice steak reduced in price and the sell by date is within 2 days, buy it and eat it. I once mentioned it to a supermarket meat manager and he totally agreed and asked me not to tell too many people!

Reports.kenbo • January 6, 2023 5:09 PM GMT
My missus has been buying a lookalike Lurpak from Morrisons. I had no idea until I noticed the writing on the tub one day, it looks so similar. I told her I didn’t like it and could tell the difference. She then pulled up her shopping order for the last three months to prove how long I’d been eating for without complaint! All the ‘how was your pack-up today’ talk suddenly made sense.

Really interested in the psychology behind this. What do you think it was that made you want to reject the cheaper alternative. Just branding, or status of being able to pay for expensive products or something else? Sounds like your wife has got your number though!

Ocado actually came through with the 45p mince pies this morning, yay BB 18/01, not too bad either.

As with most things in life, there is nuance. Most will probably be aware but the own brand food is often produced in the same factory as the brand, it's just the recipe/specification that may change. Most  times the brand is actually slightly superior, but it's down to individual taste whether you are willing to sacrifice of not. Most of the basic economy stuff is pretty grim.

You get this in the car industry, under the skin most Seats are the same as VW. But VW tends to have a prettier shell, superior brand perception, and mapping.

Nurofen is a great example, where branding and a shiny packet means people are willing to pay five times as much for essentially the same product at consumption. But I've tried many different baked beans, and nothing quite matches Heinz, alas.

Each to their own isn't it. What grates me is the people who moan about the cost of shopping, but are never pragmatic and always buy the same brand names, whatever the cost, and probably at more expensive outlets. Beggars can't be choosers...

Meat is meat referred to the fact meat will always be expensive compared to other products due to the cost of producing it
You might find a viable alternative to fabric conditioner that cheap….but if you find cheap meat…..

For me, TOAO I was brought up with my Mum buying the cheapest food she could find in the shop. I was probably about 9y/o on my first visit to McDonald’s that I realised meat tasted good. It was probably another few years before I found out not all sausages were full of horrible gristle. I used to hate meal times as a kid because I knew whatever was being served up was going to be disgusting.
That’s made me a bit of a food snob unfortunately so if I can afford the brands I prefer then they are my first choice. I’ve had most of the cheaper brands as an adult and they are inferior. I do think Morrisons own brand sausage and beans taste better than Heinz.

It wasnt that long since horse meat was being consumed inadvertently in the food chain.
If ever something like that were to happen again it would be now.

Been watching Morse
Pint of beer £1 in 1987
hohoho

Lewis pays for it though

The French are still eating horse meat, right? The Koreans (doggie meat); Afghanistanis (camel meat). The Chinese eat practically anything that moves given the starvation they encountered just a few decades ago.

Theoneandonly 07 Jan 23 11:08 
Reports.kenbo • January 6, 2023 5:09 PM GMT


Really interested in the psychology behind this. What do you think it was that made you want to reject the cheaper alternative. Just branding, or status of being able to pay for expensive products or something else?

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Probably the taste, if you keep swapping butter for cooking oil it will taste less buttery and more like shyte.

Most of Europe eat horse meat impossible,much healthier than beef btw.

I must admit that I eat butter to the exclusion of any kind of vegetable oil spread but I still choose the cheapest butter. For me it is either bread, butter and jam or just bread and jam. The spreads make me feel sick. Horse meat might be quite healthy (as is venison) but it is illegal to sell horse meat in UK.

I like butter too but not as a spread, but in 2mm slices with raspberry or apricot Bonne Maman jam. Anchor unsalted is the best - it's rich and creamy. The negative is it always gives me a sore throat soon after. Similarly, after eating Chinese beef/chicken in black bean sauce.

I caught a bit of Catchphrase earlier and saw Neil Morrissey was playing to raise money for a food bank.

Was that a first on a charity game show?

Will food be free for everyone some day? Seriously, the country is sleep walking into food shortages. A large scale Tomato producer in UK was on the news yesterday and has his own solar power generation. He has chosen to sell the power to the grid this winter rather than use it to grow tomatoes as it gives him a much bigger profit!

Rising food and leccy prices. Soon the headlines will be about people forced to choose between eating and tweeting.

always tweeting first imo

loaf of bread in my local m&s bp garage store 85 p compared to £1.49 in the nisi store, bargain.

I dare say all meat is edible, but people have the right to refuse what they would rather not inadvertently consume.
Dog for eg.
I saw locust farms are a growing enterprise for human consumption….only if those stubborn humans could drop the stigma…..

thats why i half scan my shoping ,and i get a kick out of it

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Norpak 40% butter - Lurpak 60% Butter - both 500g


Apologies for being pedantic Leif but my mate ( boring git as he is sometimes ) contested the butter comparison and brought me around the ingredients taken from Norpak vs Lurpak and they both have identical content including 64% butter for both , price comparison Norpak £2.29 vs Lurpak £4.75 at Aldi.

Only brought it up again because i accused him of talking crap   

go in the evening, better deals.

got a fantastic deal on 3 very nice dry aged rib eyes and some fillet the other day.

for all the losing mugs here just buy liver cheap as feck.

Liver, kidneys and hearts were a regular part of my diet when I was growing up but are rarely seen in a supermarket or butchers these days. All goes into dog food.

Liver, onions and ale gravy with a creamy mash

yum

sageform, my local Sussex butcher sells all three, and lots of.

The Hairy Bikers Liver and Bacon with Onion gravy is a recipe made in heaven (Enough Lambs Liver for four is just £2)

Kidneys - Heston Blumenthal says that Lambs Kidneys are the "last great cheap luxury food". Veal Kidneys are better but not by much and you can now eat them without fear AND support our dairy industry.

Beef and other Hearts are ridiculously cheap and tasty - loads of great stuffing recommendations on the net

It is offal how little of this stuff we eat. particularly at this time.

Kidneys stink of p1ss