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workrider
13 Dec 22 16:21
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Terrible ride there and some brutal rides last night , questions to answer ? or am I talking rubbish . Forum curse due .

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By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 13 Dec 22 16:26
very green and free most of race..1.5L behind leader rounding bend and faded last 2f..

terrible ride smacks of nothing but the pocket talking...what exactly iyo was terrible?
By:
workrider
When: 13 Dec 22 16:30
Of course it was green and a little difficult to handle , he tried to go up the inside of the leader several times and eventually tried to pull it round the outside nearing the 2 furlong marker but couldn't. so overall a poor ride for a top class jockey imo...
By:
formoftheace
When: 13 Dec 22 16:32
I couldn’t comment….
By:
formoftheace
When: 13 Dec 22 16:34
Jame is better…imv…..

Some look better than others in blue….
By:
The Management
When: 13 Dec 22 16:43
formoftheace13 Dec 22 16:32Joined: 17 Apr 12 | Topic/replies: 4,961 | Blogger: formoftheace's blog
I couldn’t comment….


200 people simultaneously thinking "if only" Cry
By:
formoftheace
When: 13 Dec 22 16:44
Ffs
By:
formoftheace
When: 13 Dec 22 18:26
William is a good rider but a bit overrated as far as WC…..there’s not many world class riders….
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 13 Dec 22 19:28
put any jock on that today and still wouldnt have won.
By:
workrider
When: 13 Dec 22 20:38
Rico never said it would, just a poor ride..
By:
JayTrumpOldTomDubbl
When: 13 Dec 22 20:53
W/R I see you said ' so a poor ride for a top class jockey', I'm sure you seen a few bad rides on the Curragh inn your time, perhaps even from the great Lester.
By:
workrider
When: 13 Dec 22 21:07
Jay, very few from the great man, though I have seen plenty of shockers in recent times , just reviewing the 1972 G.N. One of the girls from my year in the I.N.S. had the 4th Mr Twomey  in I think the 1973 G.N, what a party we had that night in Mullingar...
By:
basilbrush
When: 13 Dec 22 21:16
Buick has to be the most over rated flat jockey of all time. CrazyCrazyCrazy
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 14 Dec 22 08:45
Agreed - overrated - I'm sure when you're punting, there are jockeys AND trainers, who for sometimes fairly inexplicable reasons rarely work out for you - Buick is one of those for me - I bet him and he's nowhere, I lay him and he scoots in. Clearly capable, but that's no great advantage to my pocket.
By:
formoftheace
When: 14 Dec 22 09:05
Average racing can catch a few who are pumped up by the media….it’s ok on the turf in big races on point and shoot….
By:
Hayden
When: 14 Dec 22 10:49
shoodacoodadidnt

Judging by your post you need to decipher whether Buick is overrated or you're just a bad judge.

No offence mate but that's how it reads   Happy
By:
formoftheace
When: 14 Dec 22 11:22
Probably a bit overrated….imo

They all look good when connected to a big yard

Classic example K Fallon was imo a bully type up North and quite average…wins a group 3 (could be wrong) for Ramsden pumped up by the media…wins most up North and is snapped up down South to a big yard which was full of point and shoot

Obviously got the break like the rest looking back in history……

Anything else  ?
By:
formoftheace
When: 14 Dec 22 11:24
Put the top bunch of Northern riders with Appleby and you get the same outcome…..imv
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 14 Dec 22 13:22
Hayden - he's a good jockey and I'm a bad judge - like most jockeys, he does what he's told
By:
the dealer
When: 14 Dec 22 13:29
Grin
By:
stu
When: 14 Dec 22 13:30
Very nearly lost on by far the best horse there...
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 14 Dec 22 13:31
2yo just than never looked like winning
**** nose what price that went too
Flew last 150yds
By:
Hayden
When: 14 Dec 22 13:34
£9 at 100 ignoring the low pennies any higher
By:
stu
When: 14 Dec 22 13:38
100 on a 6/4 shot...!
By:
the dealer
When: 14 Dec 22 13:40

Dec 14, 2022 -- 1:30PM, stu wrote:


Very nearly lost on by far the best horse there...


Don't think he did anything wrong, the horse is still green and backward, did well to win it imho.

By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 14 Dec 22 13:41
Monkey going in stalls
Had it handy enough
Looked flat footed
Rd the turn
Press a button or kicked **** in guts got
Turbos out of it
By:
Hayden
When: 14 Dec 22 13:47
Very succinctly put Fattie  Happy
By:
the dealer
When: 14 Dec 22 13:48
100% Laugh
By:
stu
When: 14 Dec 22 14:39
Horse got him out of jail for sure.
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 14 Dec 22 14:42
All aboard Capital Theory in the next! Grin
By:
Whippin Piccadilly
When: 14 Dec 22 15:00
Devil
By:
the dealer
When: 14 Dec 22 15:01
GrinGrin
By:
Greenacres
When: 14 Dec 22 15:08
Am completely at a loss to understand the criticism of William Buick. How can anybody genuinely think this man is not a top-class horseman?
By:
Hayden
When: 14 Dec 22 15:17
Opinion seems to surface when he gets beat on a fav Greenacres , as it does with most jockeys  Happy
By:
penzance
When: 14 Dec 22 15:18
Fallon was a point & shoot jockey aswell.
By:
differentdrum
When: 14 Dec 22 17:25
Just to explain the obvious, but a top class horseman shouldn't be giving up so easily, as often as he does, when a horse omes off the bridle. Punters have every right to be annoyed when it happens, and that goes for any jockey. It strikes me that there are people on here who seem to have a crystal ball and only back him when he wins.
By:
shoodacoodadidnt
When: 19 Dec 22 12:58
That's why I hate Buick - haven't had a bet on him since this thread till sucked into 2 place bet on that race at Kempton - Let Saffie Osborne back up for 2nd - no questions asked - will never bet him again - another poster made that point earlier - we're not all seeing things
By:
DIFERENT GRAVY 12
When: 19 Dec 22 13:55
Beaten on 3 odds on shots!!!
By:
formoftheace
When: 19 Dec 22 13:57
Now now….that’s not nice….
By:
Hayden
When: 19 Dec 22 14:04
It's all far too subjective.

These threads get bumped with a win and bumped with a loss depending on which camp you're in.


You just end up going around in circles with no conclusion except in the individual's own head.
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