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westberks
04 Nov 22 13:12
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In case of interest:

Friday: Newcastle £100k minimum
Saturday: Aintree £250k minimum
Sunday: Sandown Park £100k minimum

Saturday:
The placepot will be on the final six Breeders Cup races:
5.50 Keeneland – BC Filly & Mare Turf
6.30 Keeneland – BC Sprint
7.10 Keeneland – BC Mile
7.55 Keeneland – BC Distaff
8.40 Keeneland – BC Turf
9.40 Keeneland – BC Classic
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Report acey deucy November 4, 2022 12:14 PM GMT
Great News they are doing a Breeders Cup Placepot.
Report westberks November 4, 2022 1:31 PM GMT
...FYI & co-mingling with the US pools for the race odds & exotics
Report JJmbe November 4, 2022 1:39 PM GMT

Nov 4, 2022 -- 7:14AM, acey deucy wrote:


Great News they are doing a Breeders Cup Placepot.


Is that the tote acey

Report SlippyBlue November 4, 2022 1:53 PM GMT
I can't play direct into the pools, Tote+ have put me on the naughty step.I
Report cardifffc November 4, 2022 3:04 PM GMT
what for slippy....they are not a traditional bookmaker
Report SlippyBlue November 4, 2022 5:29 PM GMT
Despite my account being in decent order, no unusual betting patterns or random deposits etc. they demanded bank statements for the last few months and I said no, I'm really not the person you should be hassling over affordability checks and they said well no more deposits allowed and I closed my account.

Even the bod doing it said it wasn't something he could be objective about and listen to reasoned dialogue so then it was game over. It was all a bit ridiculous really but I was never going to comply.
Report JJmbe November 4, 2022 5:37 PM GMT
Not betting related but i opened an account online retailer this week, brand new email never been used before, within half an hour the amount of **** in the junk  folder is amazing, they must just sell your details to anyone, scary stuff really. People in call centres working from home on the other side of the world, in really poor countries, crazy.
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 4, 2022 8:01 PM GMT
Total of 45 runners @ Aintree before any n/rs, not for me, will leave it to Berksy and the other

Tote shareholders.

  Send us a Bank Statement !!   Yes Right. LaughGrin What a bunch of khoonts.
Report westberks November 4, 2022 8:27 PM GMT
...however agendarised (should be a word) your arguments are, it would be hard to blame the Placepot on small field sizes, surely?
Report casemoney November 4, 2022 8:36 PM GMT
Had 700 Left to Deposit  , Not been on the Site for a Few weeks , Deposit left 300 WTF is going on there ?
Report acey deucy November 6, 2022 1:51 PM GMT
A lousy 22k in The Breeders Cup Pool Chelmsford had nearly double that ffs.Plain
Report cardifffc November 6, 2022 2:07 PM GMT
how are the placepots going acey...i did donny yesterday for 27 quid for 1p stakes...i never watch the racing when i do a bet but wait for the last race and when i saw £28 quid i thought ive lost most of my money but to my surprise i come out just ahead
Report acey deucy November 6, 2022 2:19 PM GMT
Placepots going terrible cardi a proper mugs bet but i am addicted.Sad
Report westberks November 7, 2022 2:14 PM GMT
FYI the £100K is at Wolver today
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 7, 2022 2:20 PM GMT
FYI the £100K is at Wolver today


  ... As our resident Tote representative, do you mind answering some of the Forumites previous concerns. ??
Report westberks November 7, 2022 3:01 PM GMT
...TBH I just get abused so leaving the numbers in case of interest, no worries if not.
Report wondersobright November 7, 2022 3:10 PM GMT
100k

that's 100k made up by the t0te buying their own tickets, hence reducing the returns of genuine winning tickets

do not play is my advice
Report wondersobright November 7, 2022 3:11 PM GMT
its a massive con
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 7, 2022 9:37 PM GMT
..... Bordering on Illegal imo.!
Report Greg_Gory November 8, 2022 9:35 AM GMT
Then a meeting gets called off halfway through and you lose out on your later combinations because it pais around 13/8 while they scoop up all the exccess and their own money.
just a rippoff now only worth playing at big meetings like cheltenham etc
Waste of time now though really Crazy
Report Greg_Gory November 8, 2022 9:38 AM GMT
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 8, 2022 10:47 AM GMT
For those that think the Tote are seeding the pools for the benefit of the punter read on ..

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/mar/01/talking-horses-horse-racing-th...
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 8, 2022 10:55 AM GMT
One claim – in a document seen by the Guardian - suggests the Tote could have made at least £3m from proprietary trading since PGS made its debut, and that as much as 40% of many day-to-day Placepot pools is actually comprised of the Tote’s own money.

PGS (SEEDING).
Report westberks November 9, 2022 12:12 PM GMT
TBF @Greg_Gory there were 45,000 winning units! Keep screaming GLASGOW...I remember when Betfair first started and the traditional bookmakers were HOWLING & it only served to help Betfair get more and more established.

FYI £250K Placepots at Cheltenham on Fri, Sat & Sun.
Report wondersobright November 9, 2022 2:05 PM GMT
so to confirm...the t0te will be topping up the pools with their OWN tickets thus creating more winning tickets & reducing the dividend that normal players receive

do not play is my advice
Report HallGreenSpy November 9, 2022 2:14 PM GMT
Whilst paying 73p per £1 line unlike the rest who pay full whack.
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 9, 2022 3:29 PM GMT
Berksy if i raffled off my million pound house selling by raffle tickets and you bought some, 

  how would you feel when I say I have won it myself !!!  with no evidence of when or how many tickets

i bought. ??

  PS, not Screaming here, just posting alternative views to your own. Happy
Report ItsMeSwaddle November 9, 2022 4:22 PM GMT
Berk you w@nk isnt wanted here, we know the time of day.

You have been sussed, reported for utter sales spam.
Report devilsadvocate November 9, 2022 9:31 PM GMT
The Tote has its uses at times but its kind of ironic that the 'guaranteed' big pools are likely to have a degree of insider trading  that in fact makes them a bad play.
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 10, 2022 10:05 AM GMT
... Exactly, if the intention of " Seeding " the pools is solely to create bigger pools / interest

  then surely the Bigger pools such as Cheltenham or Ascot etc will remain untampered with ?? 

  But how will anyone know ???  PR disaster imo.
Report Johnny The Guesser November 10, 2022 10:31 AM GMT
How would they go about seeding the pools ?
Buy every permutation ? or
Buy under bet permutations just before the off ?
or a combination of the two ?  i.e. Buy every combination early on to build pools , then move towards the under bet perms as off time approaches ?
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 10, 2022 11:11 AM GMT
..... All of that and more I suspect.!
Report westberks November 12, 2022 8:40 AM GMT
£250K Placepots today & tomorrow at Cheltenham
Report second again November 12, 2022 10:18 AM GMT
What other racing countries are the totes allowed to seed the pools?
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 12, 2022 11:15 AM GMT
£250K Placepots today & tomorrow at Cheltenham


   Will the Tote be playing their own pools Today BERKSY ???  If so where do we find info on the amount of tickets bought, and at what times were they placed. ???  Many thanks.
Report wondersobright November 12, 2022 12:49 PM GMT

Nov 12, 2022 -- 2:40AM, westberks wrote:


£250K Placepots today & tomorrow at Cheltenham


just need you to furnish us with the details of how this amount will be made up

as per GCs last comment

ta

Report devilsadvocate November 19, 2022 12:02 PM GMT
Tote site down just as Saturday pools about to start,
Report devilsadvocate November 19, 2022 12:09 PM GMT
Back Up Now.
Report GLASGOWCALLING November 19, 2022 12:17 PM GMT
.... That was the Totes own tickets being loaded, takes a while with that many. !!
Report wondersobright November 19, 2022 12:52 PM GMT
Laugh
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