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In an unrelated matter, an 81-year-old racegoer, who was denied admission because he wanted to pay with cash at the turnstiles, has been invited to be a guest at Doncaster, as the course acknowledged it should have responded to coverage of his case on social media.
executive director Rachel Harwood said
"We are a cashless venue and have been since I joined in 2020, but that tweet should have been responded to directly so we have been in touch with him and have invited him to come as a guest."
Explaining why Doncaster is cashless, Harwood said: "It is Arena Racing Company's policy, the same as the Jockey Club and many other sports venues.
"It is the way the world is going and the cost of managing cash is immense. In the last decade when we operated with cash, we'd have 20 staff here until two or three in the morning counting it. We'd then have to process it, send it to the bank and make up about 200 floats."
Well, what a bloody shame - and it's only 'the way the world is going' if people stand by and do nothing.
Having a cashless option is fine, but making it compulsory is another thing altogether.
Covid legitimized unprecedented constraints on public and civil liberty, including the legitimacy of denying people the centuries-old basic right to trade using the printed and minted currency of the realm.
Businesses are now continuing that legitimacy under the auspices of saving money for themselves. Sod the 81-year-old chap who wants to use that old-fashioned relic called cash.
Well, each and every one of us is heading inexorably towards our own 81, and unless you want the banks and government to control every digital penny you have, get off your arses and start speaking up.
executive director Rachel Harwood said
"We are a cashless venue and have been since I joined in 2020, but that tweet should have been responded to directly so we have been in touch with him and have invited him to come as a guest."
Explaining why Doncaster is cashless, Harwood said: "It is Arena Racing Company's policy, the same as the Jockey Club and many other sports venues.
"It is the way the world is going and the cost of managing cash is immense. In the last decade when we operated with cash, we'd have 20 staff here until two or three in the morning counting it. We'd then have to process it, send it to the bank and make up about 200 floats."
Well, what a bloody shame - and it's only 'the way the world is going' if people stand by and do nothing.
Having a cashless option is fine, but making it compulsory is another thing altogether.
Covid legitimized unprecedented constraints on public and civil liberty, including the legitimacy of denying people the centuries-old basic right to trade using the printed and minted currency of the realm.
Businesses are now continuing that legitimacy under the auspices of saving money for themselves. Sod the 81-year-old chap who wants to use that old-fashioned relic called cash.
Well, each and every one of us is heading inexorably towards our own 81, and unless you want the banks and government to control every digital penny you have, get off your arses and start speaking up.
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Very well said stevo
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Cashless society 'is the way the world is going'.
It should not be happening. We should not be allowing it to happen. Total control coming our way. Just don't attend cashless events, and go in cashless shops. But the sheeple just cant see it. Going along with what they are told to do. With all notes and coins now needing to be gradually reissued due to the queen's death, blames on huge costs for new bank notes can ensure they now go into full express mode for a total cashless society. |
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Totally, Stevo. HSBC made £15 billion profit last year, each time you use a card they get richer. It has to be cash or I'm out
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Don't see a problem personally. Paying for things by tapping my watch or phone are far more convenient than having cash on me.
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Obviously in the case of the 81 year chap, they should have made an exception.
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..... You have answered your own question Laying, why not both Cash or card ?? everyones happy ?
Well said btw Stevo. |
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Can't argue with that.
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Every time you use cashless , data on you is generated , stored and used .....some people do not wish this to happen.
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You might find your overdraft facility being withdrawn if the bank sees money going on racing or betting.
That won't happen using cash. |
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Same with any application for credt. They'll view you as a bad risk if they know you bet.
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Its becoming a charcterless society. Go Online , sell service checkouts , cant use cash etc etc
Be nobody talking or interacting with other human beings anymore. |
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from the OP's post:
"It is the way the world is going and the cost of managing cash is immense. In the last decade when we operated with cash, we'd have 20 staff here until two or three in the morning counting it. We'd then have to process it, send it to the bank and make up about 200 floats." Why would any business voluntarily take on that burden when 90%+ of people are happy to pay by card and spare them the expense? |
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Banks do a lot of homework on ALL punters…..it’s frowned upon
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All companies pay a service charge for processing debit and credit cards,which ,of course,gets passed onto the public with higher costs,which isn't always the case with cash.
Of course companies like card payments as it cuts out any "shrinkage",whether accidental or deliberate! |
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they can go fork themsels cash is king ..........they want you by the balls and when they have you by the balls they will squeeze, long live cash!
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I'm a cash only person
Went to Hereford races a while back and admission was card only as in above story A bloke hanging around by the turnstile beckoned me away Instead of 18 quid admission fee, i gave him a tenner, he "lent" me a member's badge, we walked through the next door gate showing the stewards our badges. Ten yards later i gave it back to him and he walked back out again I hung around for a while and watched as he repeated this process every 2 or 3 minutes Nice little earner for him, the racecourse losing out for refusing cash All food and drink outlets on the course cash only as well Only tote(britbet) and bookies taking cash |
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I try to use cash all the time. Trouble is the "folding Stuff" is not what it used to be. Drew £300 quid the other day and almost impossible to fold and secure in a pocket.
One thing I have learned over the years is that if something ain't broke some clever dick will make sure it soon is. |
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You would have thought someone would have said come through for nothing this time
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Layingisthewayforward....what happens when you are at the till with your items and there is a technical glitch which doesnt get fixed for hours? Happened recently to a friend of mine and he was the only one in the queue paying cash so bypassed all the ones who only had their card or phone on them. Only Card will be a disaster....not just for this example but for the control it will give those in power over us.
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Would it not be useful for small and medium shops to out a card in window cash preferred but not essential so customers know, would not apply to big supermarkets and stores they just love cards do they not
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Cash in hand is always cheaper and no bookwork.
It's the black market they want to stop. Plumbers, electricians, builders. |
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It's not just about stopping people using the black market. It's about stopping rebellious types* from accessing the legitimate market too.
Do as you're told or see your card suspended. __________ 'Rebellious types' now covers £101/month gamblers, in case anyone thinks it would never affect them. |
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Stevo. For Sure. I print leaflets, I hand them out at shopping centres, I'm doing what I can,same as you. My mantra is 'Come Back to Cash'
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And don't forget your PIN or you are totally ***ked. Best to take some cash with you.
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I usually always have cash on me but yesterday I went to buy an anniversary card for the wife and had no cash on me. Went to the till to pay but my card declined. Tried it 3 more times, declined on each occasion so I had to go and find a cashpoint (one luckily just down the road) and come back. When I got back in the shop there was a long line of customers due to other customers cards also being declined. I happily skipped to the front of the queue to pay with good old cash.
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A cashless society would be the end of society. We would all be nothing more than numbers in data
bases and what we can spend our money on will be determined by algorithms. One of these days the system will go down for a long period of time and all those who pay by card or phone will be fooked.The bus I took this morning stops at Bournemouth University, so many students boarding. Not one paid cash, they all paid using their phones. I doubt that many of them have a clue what the fare is. The same in the pub I frequent, where they order by phone from the table. Ask any of them to add say 33 and 17 and they will use a calculator. |
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 so true rograinWas in the pub up at Beachy Head last July and we had to sit at a table someone gave us then had to place our order for both drinks and food . Then had to wait a gud 30mins b4 both arrived together and that was 1st time we had even been acknowledged as even being there other than the guy at entrance who had originally seated us. Totally soulless experience and needless to say we didnt re-order any drinks  |
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cant get on a bus in london with cash, either phone or debit or credit card .... other alternative is an oyster card and ya gotta pay £6 for it last i heard then you have to top it up in shops or online ......
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The cost of an Oyster card is a deposit you can get back if/when you surrender it so no big deal.
Actually been a huge improvment over queueing behind people trying to count out their fares in change. |
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smirnoff2therescue 05 Oct 22 14:57
'Was in the pub up at Beachy Head' ---------- What is the name of the pub ? .... The 'Last Chance Saloon' ?  |
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Tapping on and off with debit/ credit card on tube is a huge improvement. I'm a cashless convert
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Good morning foyles
What if you need to get on the bus in emergency and you only have cash ? |
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Jimnast
may i ask are you at York this weekend. regards Ronnie. |
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Good morning Ronnie
Yes both days |
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"What if you need to get on the bus in emergency and you only have cash ?
" Why would you get on a bus in an emergency? |
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Have you got tickets for the Saturday.
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Is that a serious question Clydebank?
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Yes Ronnie I have tickets
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