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unbiased
08 Aug 22 21:18
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When a racegoer is faced with high cost of admission at high grade courses why should the prices of food and drink be higher than at the lower  grade courses.
  The catering staff are probably not paid  excessively higher rates of pay,so why should food and drink be proportionately that much more expensive.
   Is it that much more expensive to serve a pint at  Cheltenham,Ascot,Goodwood,than it is at Bath,Brighton,Hexham,or serve a burger.
  If you have already paid an inflated entrance fee,then refreshments should be reasonably priced.A pint of guiness,or bottle of peroni,shouldn't vary that much from course to course.and applies to a bowl of chips,or a burger etc.
   The response will be interesting,and no comparisons between restaurants and cafes as they don't charge admission!

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By:
unbiased
When: 09 Aug 22 12:31
Pack of 12 x 1/2 litre bottles of water with sports caps so easy to drink without spilling it for £1.50 in Aldi,which is 12.5 pence a bottle.So if courses charged no more than £1 a time that certainly covers them and allows for the rubbish clearance too.
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Aug 22 13:05
Quite simple unbiased,a burger vendor or ice cream van for example might be charged £200 to stand at your Hexam' etc,double or triple that for the same concessions at premium fixtures,how else are they to cover their costs and make a profit? Btw no idea of actual cost these days but the reasons are the same regardless.The RP did a survey across a lot of courses comparing the costs of a pint and a burger,surprisingly there seemed to be little difference in prices although quality varied.
By:
saddo
When: 09 Aug 22 13:16
There is price fixing by the courses though, whatever enclosure you are in at Ponte a burger or chips or anything else is the same price at any of the food vans under different ownership.
By:
CROPSICK
When: 09 Aug 22 13:17
They must get plenty of sales to make it worthwhile paying for the concession.
By:
CagliariG
When: 09 Aug 22 13:23
Not as easy as it sounds cropsick,had several friends over the years who had concessions,they had to pay regardless of whether the sun shone or it pis$ed down with rain,plenty of times making a substantial loss,swings and roundabouts where good days maybe made up for the bad ones,Bookies ditto.
By:
know all
When: 09 Aug 22 14:04
think its a grand plus for a stand
By:
longbridge
When: 09 Aug 22 15:39
Same reason as prices anywhere - you charge what the market will stand.

Yes, maybe you could sell burgers for £2 at Cheltenham or champagne at Royal Ascot for £20 a bottle - but why would you if you know that you can have queues all day to pay five times that?
By:
mrspock
When: 09 Aug 22 16:36
Just one of the reasons this industry is slowly declining. If they made it reasonable for ordinary families to attend,people would flock to them; however,racecourses finances are pretty opaque;but selling spare land to property developers to put up apartment blocks overlooking the course is another 'revenue stream'.
Eventually,it'll end up like the USA.
By:
sparrow
When: 09 Aug 22 16:38
All the excuses in the world won't change the fact that racecourse prices are a rip off and have been for many years now.
By:
whatyoulookingat
When: 09 Aug 22 16:38
not always the case but at cheltenham the coarse set the price on all
food outlets then take 20 per cent of all sales nice little earner
By:
saddo
When: 09 Aug 22 16:44
Reliant on the vendors to receipt all takings?
By:
whatyoulookingat
When: 09 Aug 22 16:52
yes thats how it works saddo notice every time i go to chelts everything goes
through the till
By:
whatyoulookingat
When: 09 Aug 22 16:54
yes saddo thats how it works its noticeable at chelts everthing through
the till
By:
whatyoulookingat
When: 09 Aug 22 16:54
yes saddo thats how it works its noticeable at chelts everthing through
the till
By:
PompeyMike
When: 09 Aug 22 17:43
Expensive day out with petrol, car parking, admission, food and drink in mostly uncomfortable surroundings.
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Aug 22 17:55
A big problem at the moment is some racecourses are card only most people don’t want that,some tracks don’t even allow cash on the gate.yes things are to expensive but they have been for a long time,the card only system is chasing people away as I stated in a printed letter in the racing post not long after the return of crowds after covid.
By:
truehoncho
When: 09 Aug 22 17:58
At Newmarket if you are a badge holder you can get a great meal for around £10 in the canteen. Top value.
By:
Hibore
When: 09 Aug 22 18:03
What is the point of moaning about this cost and that cost. It must be the going rate as it’s packed out every raceday.
Life is too short worrying about £1 here and £2 there. If you are then maybe a racetrack isn’t the place for you.
It’s not going to change unfortunately.
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Aug 22 18:04
I notice racing is blaming the forecast hard times ahead yet most other sports including the commonwealth games have attracted big crowds.
By:
Hibore
When: 09 Aug 22 18:05
Members at Cheltenham is amazing value at £450 and food is reduced in there as well.
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 22 18:16
dunno why you would drive there. traffic no fun, no sherbert and a massive pain getting out and driving home in the dark with the ump after doing your tonsils. and cant you go 3 hours without a rancid burger? i dont go racing for me tea. eat before or after or both and get something far better. and paying extra would not be a prob except for the fact it is utter sh1te. foul guinness in plastic? fizzy flavourless larger?

and part of the pleasure is going out local and having a look around. found a coupla nice battles in me time.

get the rattler, relax, a few sherberts some daft games and avalaff. you cant do that in a motor.
By:
Manoleeds
When: 09 Aug 22 18:45
Agree Mitolo but as the moment lots of Transpennine trains are cancelled which makes getting to Beverley  and Thirsk harder than under normal circumstances.York Ebor will have strikes on the Thursday and Friday.
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 22 19:23
such a shame our trains are so carp, and all sides are to blame. the difference on the continent is startling. you can go anywhere, anytime any country with no bother and few sherberst and good quality nosebag. the german ice trains are like mobile hotels and cheap. ours are just embarrassing.
By:
barstool
When: 09 Aug 22 19:29
The Granddaughter, aged 7 is up for a few to days so me and the mrs thought we might go with her and her dad to Blackpool Pleasure Beach until I discovered it would cost us £46 each just to get in and watch her on a few rides. No concessions whatsoever, you must pay to walk round and breathe the fresh air.

Sorry, not a racing matter, just an indicator of where we are in rip off Britain today.
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 22 19:36
i assume the 46 quid includes unlimited rides, but if you are only there for your grandaughter and not intent on sneaking onto any rides its a bit of a liberty indeed. wonder how many they lose because of this.

pity youd have to go to blackpool. a steaming sh1thole. southport pleasureland closing down was a great shame imo
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 09 Aug 22 19:37
"... couple of nice battles in me time."

Nobody, absolutely nobody from London calls pubs " battles".
How odd that you do.
By:
know all
When: 09 Aug 22 19:43
rip off britain , pickering steam train to whitby and back  2 x 43 each they let 2 kids go for 1 each in the summer or its 110 family of four, if you like steam trains you can on the platforms for free , it was half empty the train, with 150 stood on the platform watching for free, supposed to be a charity running it
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 22 19:56
i aint from london. i find daft slang mildly amusing and use it liberally. you are wrong; i used to know 2 who did.
By:
sparrow
When: 09 Aug 22 20:15
I wondered what  "battles" was supposed to mean.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 09 Aug 22 20:21
Sparrow, battle cruiser = boozer.

I think I heard it in a Minder episode once back in the 80's.
By:
sparrow
When: 09 Aug 22 20:27
I'm an old East Ender slippy and I've never heard it before!
By:
sparrow
When: 09 Aug 22 20:29
Rub a Dub is Cockney Rhyming slang for Pub.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 09 Aug 22 20:30
Mitolo and his mates use it all the time apparently.

Mischief
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 09 Aug 22 20:30
Yes, 'rub a dub' indeed.
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 22 20:33
i suspect it long pre-dates minder, although i dont know. and wont bother googling it as thats what everyone does. happy to be wrong, but thats not important.

we, as in my equally stupid chums have a boatload of these terms adopted not just from london but ireland and liverpool. some is unrepeatable but its all cobblers but occasinally useful to befuddle an unwlecome intruder.

one of the few times it was useful was when someone in front of me said; string on your haystack. i didnt turn round. its harmless and daft.
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 09 Aug 22 20:41
I'm just joshing with you Mitolo, speaking cockney slang can be useful if you don't want others to know what you're talking about. I've used it since I was a kid. Also my parents taught me some Gaelic and I used that as well when the occasion warranted it.
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 22 20:43
and talking of east end, the battle i first heard it was the albion lauriston road. both long dead
By:
mitolo
When: 09 Aug 22 20:47
luv an anthony meself bluey. feel free and never apologise. i will not burst into tears or try to get anyone banned, unlike some small-minded wanchors on ear.

irish is all very well but you need another gaeilgeoir to make it useful. ive listened to it in the west and its impenetrable.
By:
sparrow
When: 09 Aug 22 20:57
mitolo 09 Aug 22 20:43 
and talking of east end, the battle i first heard it was the albion lauriston road. both long dead





I lived minutes away from the Albion in Lauriston Road Hackney.  Well Street was where I was brought up.
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