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Report brassneck July 31, 2022 9:01 PM BST
but there is wind in the Arizona desert.Cool
Report Manoleeds July 31, 2022 9:57 PM BST
http://www.moonhoaxdebunked.com/2017/07/62-why-does-flag-flutter-on-airless-...
Report comingupthehill July 31, 2022 10:11 PM BST
51.8% of brits will always believe we went to the moon. The ones who voted for brexit. Half the people just believe what they’re told.

A few things to consider.
1.Russia were first in space,at that time USA were obsessed with proving capitalism was the best,hence Cuba. Vietnam. So they had to out do Russia by claiming they landed on the moon.
2.USA say they went there many times. So why didn’t Russia go.
3.why have they never been back,even deflecting this by banging on about going to mars.
4.it’s 60 years ago now.did they really have the technology to do this.given they couldn’t even keep 2 shuttles from blowing up 40 years later.
5.not one mission to the moon crashed no one died. Amazing. Why didn’t they use this technology on the shuttles then they might of not crashed.
6.when interest in landing on the moon waned. They luckily hit trouble to create some interest.but they soon stuck a few pieces from a vacuum cleaner together to sling shot around the moon to safely get home.
7.you. Yes. You. Reading this do you actually believe this fantasy bullshit. Think about it. There’s no fooking way it was possible.
8.why haven’t they admitted it yet. Until all those involved are dead they can’t. Plus they’re scared of the people then questioning the governments the media. It might dawn on people how much they are lied to.


Have you ever been for a walk in the hills. With great views. I can see wales. Liverpool. The north west from near me. About 80 miles. It’s vast.I know the moons smaller. But why couldn’t you see miles and miles into the distance. You literally could only see about 500 yards in the back ground. The nevada desert also has some giant aircraft hangers or film studios depending what you need them for.

I personally like the tin foil on the landing craft. It takes 2 massive rockets to take off from nasa. But the little tin foiled tri pod can get them home. Pmsl. Amazing how most of the world will believe this total fantasy.
Report brians July 31, 2022 11:44 PM BST
Your biggest problem is that over 400,000 people were involved in the Apollo programme. It would be some achievement to keep every one these people quiet if it was hoaxed ,even  on their deathbed. Secondly there are 382 kg of moonrock brought back and now kept all over the world , independently verified by scientists of many nations. Lastly the sites and debris have been photographed by passing Chinese , Russian ,Indian and Japanese spacecraft.
Report duffy August 1, 2022 12:05 AM BST
Discovery or history channel covered this well, 6 episodes I think, they had 3 blokes, one a former FBI agent, one a former astronaut and one conspiracy theorist, come the end they all agreed that we went to the moon.

The most incredible piece of info to come out of it was that Excitedat the time NASA had Nazi war criminal scientists that had been pardoned just so they could be brought in to work on the program.Shocked
Report duffy August 1, 2022 12:14 AM BST
5.not one mission to the moon crashed no one died.

Three astronauts due to pilot Apollo 1 died:

Astronauts Grissom, White, and Chaffee, clad in their spacesuits inside their Command Module (CM) at Cape Kennedy’s Launch Complex 34, were conducting a countdown simulation ahead of their planned Feb. 21 launch. Their mission, officially called Apollo 204 but better known as Apollo 1, was to be the first piloted Apollo flight. As they would on launch day, the astronauts and ground crews sealed the three hatches of the capsule and pressurized it with pure oxygen at 16.7 pounds per square inch (psi), slightly higher than atmospheric pressure. At 6:31 p.m., a flash fire broke out inside the cabin. Within seconds, rising temperatures and pressures caused the CM pressure vessel to crack, releasing flames and smoke onto the launch pad’s service structure. The astronauts, in vain, attempted to open the inner hatch, while the pad crew valiantly worked to open the outer two hatches, their attempts hampered by dense smoke and heat. By the time they opened the hatches, the crew had already perished. Later that night, after photographers fully documented the scene, recovery crews removed the astronauts’ bodies from the spacecraft and took them to a nearby medical facility. U.S. Air Force pathologists conducted examinations, concluding that the astronauts died of asphyxia from carbon monoxide and other toxic gases resulting from the fire. The burns they received were likely survivable.

Report Gibberish August 1, 2022 2:16 AM BST
CUTH - are you aware that they LOST the technology that got them to the moon?
That's fcukin' laughable!

And this is an unmissable 7 minutes of hilarity that looks like something
rustled together from Blue Peter Laugh

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3dXwQAlQ3828/

I've showed that to dozens of mates and they think it's a take-the-píss as
it's that pathetic, yet the pictures are from NASA's website.
Report Gaze733 August 1, 2022 10:11 AM BST
Duffy, you didn't hear about Operation Paperclip until that documentary? They should put it into the public school curriculum.
Report top2rated August 1, 2022 10:38 AM BST
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Report MJK August 1, 2022 11:26 AM BST
Would've liked to have heard the few minutes that were blacked our, after Armstrong said 'they're watching us'.
Report spyker August 1, 2022 11:28 AM BST
The most incredible piece of info to come out of it was that Excitedat the time NASA had Nazi war criminal scientists that had been pardoned just so they could be brought in to work on the program.Shocked


Exactly - the real story is much much more interesting (and shocking to the winners of ww2) than any pisspoor conspiracy theory. The problem with conspiracies is that those that  believe them really do place and awful lot of competence in those they see as perpetuating it!
Report mitolo August 1, 2022 12:31 PM BST
cuth just rocketed to the top of the forum wanchor chart.

the ussr, not russia was miles behind in every aspect of technology (couldnt make a tv or car or even a toaster or a loaf of bread. queues snaked for miles in the most fertile country in the world) because socialism had proved a total disaster. the ussr had huge state resources working on this project, with secret cities and scientists forced to work there in a desperate attempt to get into space which they did after many (hidden) disasters using rudimentary rockets, mostly stolen from the west, similar to los alamos.

ussr could never have got there. because nobody died is not evidence the u.s. didnt get there.

you say anyone who believes it is a fantasist. a neat inversion of logic. you say they cannot admit its a fake until 'all those involved are dead'. cos thats what happens isnt it? lord knows what a gigantic conspiracy this must have been, and expensive. yet everyone kept quiet. amazing. shortly afterwards nixon couldnt even break into a filing cabinet without being grassed up. couldnt even keep that quiet, but this...

and while all this is going on the sworn enemies the usst and the prc watch. time after time, up she goes and lands on the moon, 6 times(from memory, dont quote me) yet they say nothing about something they devoted huge resources they could not afford. this was a top priority of the kgb, following from the theft of the atom bomb. it would have been a massive weapon for them(not long before, khrushchev, who youve prob never heard of, had said to the u.s 'we will crush you'). but they thought better of it and let them perpetuate the most audacious and gigantic fraud imaginable and mugs fell for it worldwide. everywhere, every nation, every amateur and professinal astronomer and cosmologist, every newspaper and tv station then and ever since, all mugs or in on it.

but not you. or a few crackpots on youtube. conspiracy loons only believe the utterly incredible
Report brassneck August 1, 2022 12:41 PM BST
Santa Claus is a secret ,and there more than 400.000 people keeping this secret ,so why not a secret about a man landing on the moon in 1969.The time when all they had was a commodore 64 computer.Grin
Report Timber August 1, 2022 12:48 PM BST

Jul 31, 2022 -- 11:44PM, brians wrote:


Your biggest problem is that over 400,000 people were involved in the Apollo programme. It would be some achievement to keep every one these people quiet if it was hoaxed ,even

Report Timber August 1, 2022 12:49 PM BST

Aug 1, 2022 -- 12:41PM, brassneck wrote:


Santa Claus is a secret ,and there more than 400.000 people keeping this secret ,so why not a secret about a man landing on the moon in 1969.The time when all they had was a commodore 64 computer.


My phone is more powerful than the tech that landed men on the moonLaugh

Report Timber August 1, 2022 12:50 PM BST
Your biggest problem is that over 400,000 people were involved in the Apollo programme

Similar amounts of the Manhattan project
It's all about compartmentalising
Report Movewiththetimes August 1, 2022 12:52 PM BST
But if there is no atmosphere on the Moon, there is no wind - so why is the flag waving? Is this the proof that conspiracy theorists have been seeking?

Look again at the image, and in particular along the top edge of the flag, and you will find the answer. A telescopic pole has been extended along the top in order to make the flag fly proudly (yes, NASA really did think of everything).

"Because it’s been set up like this, it appears to be waving in the wind," Ojha explains. "All the wrinkles are there because it’s literally been screwed up for four days en route to the Moon."
Report foxy top August 1, 2022 12:53 PM BST
some people will believe what they want to believe,

not long ago, some people would rather believe Donald Trump, an ex  tv show host with no medical background than doctors who had spent a lifetime learning about diseases,

some of those same people believe the earth to be flat,

go figure Crazy
Report Timber August 1, 2022 12:54 PM BST

Aug 1, 2022 -- 12:53PM, foxy top wrote:


some people will believe what they want to believe,not long ago, some people would rather believe Donald Trump, an ex

Report Timber August 1, 2022 12:54 PM BST
You mean 80 year old mass murderer Fauci?
Report mitolo August 1, 2022 1:38 PM BST
the fact a flag wobbled on the moon is enough for loons to jump to the biggest and most audacious conspiracy of all time, until 9/11 of course.

and santa clasus as evidence the moon landings were faked. thats the level this dismal forum is at. why did the ussr and china and everyone else say nothing? as if this q needs asking. but apparently it does.
Report i_agree_with_nick August 1, 2022 2:16 PM BST
No stars in the sky. All those big brains at NASA didn't think of that.
Report i_agree_with_nick August 1, 2022 2:21 PM BST
Neil Armstrong was the first to step on the moon.  So who took the photo?

Buzz Aldrin refused to swear on the Bible?

How much proof do people need?
Report mitolo August 1, 2022 2:47 PM BST
thats proof? four king hell.

will one of the headbangers please tell me why every stargazer in the world went along with this crazy hoax? all of em.
Report i_agree_with_nick August 1, 2022 2:51 PM BST
Exactly, mitolo.  It was (a poor attempt at) irony.
Report mitolo August 1, 2022 4:32 PM BST
oh. you cant be sure of anything in this nuthouse.

no headbanger available to answer the q. maybe their hats have become so hot they cant concentrate
Report comingupthehill August 1, 2022 9:08 PM BST
Only about 50 would of been needed maybe less to make this happen.

Astronauts were the best of the best. The loyalist of the loyal USA airmen. When the lie is so big and the mission is proving USA is better than ussr. They d fall in line. The nasa team would monitor a real take off and flight then the fake one would cut into the feed from Nevada.
It was a tv show proving to the world that the USA was the best. A lot easier given the crap technology available at the time.

Who would speak up. Risking losing their job. Any anomaly would be dismissed as faulty feed. Who would then demand that it is investigated. 


What’s the point of the official secrets act being signed if anyone can just break it later. And who would actually have real proof. They d just think. That didn’t seem right then if they asked their boss would be fobbed off or moved to another dept.


Look at the state of the USA under trump. It was 10 times worse in the 60s.


Faking the landings is far easier than actually doing it.

Given the denial of idiots on here who seek certainty in the world so that they sleep well at night is the main reason why it’s still not come out.


When will we go back. When will they have to admit it’s fake. When we are all dead. So it won’t really mattter.

Believe what you believe. It’s a bit like religion. Just have faith then it’s real. Whatever gives you strength and certainty to help you in your daily life.

Top list of lies everyone joins in on
1.god
2.Father Christmas
3.the tooth fair

Lying to make people feel safe and happy is taught from birth.

We didn’t really have computers in the 60s. But we could build a space ship out of vacuum cleaner parts
Report comingupthehill August 1, 2022 9:17 PM BST
The main reason why it’s never come out is because. The very next question would be.

What else are they lying about. And that opens up a whole can of worms.

So they let the lie slowly die till it’s so far in the past people won’t be angry.

As to the opening post.

Yeah it was made to stand up straight. But again there’s no wind in a Nevada aircraft hanger. So that could just be the excuse.
Report comingupthehill August 1, 2022 9:19 PM BST
All those who believe just need to keep the faith. You could form a religion.

Maybe call yourself the moonies
Report foxy top August 2, 2022 11:34 AM BST
note to self:

ignore any future posts by comingupthehill
Report brassneck August 2, 2022 12:12 PM BST
When Mr Trump was running for president he promised that if he was elected he would release all documentation relating to the apollo  11 landing.but when he did get in he said,The good people of America are not ready for this,and he would leave it for a future date.ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked
Report brassneck August 2, 2022 12:39 PM BST
So,let me change the thread title to=I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD PRETEND THE FLAG WAS BLOWING ON THE MOON.
Report brassneck August 2, 2022 12:54 PM BST
and with temperatures on the moon reaching 125 celsius and dropping to -125 ,how can they say its still there 50 years later Laugh
Report Johnny The Guesser August 2, 2022 1:01 PM BST
The biggest con in history - the whole world buys it.
"Phew guys - well done - We got away with it"
"We're on a roll, let's do it five more times !"
Report brassneck August 2, 2022 1:07 PM BST
ok,we will do it five more times provided NIXON is the bossCool
Report elise August 2, 2022 1:10 PM BST
So,let me change the thread title to=I CANT UNDERSTAND WHY THEY WOULD PRETEND THE FLAG WAS BLOWING ON THE MOON.

... what you should change it to is I can't understand anything and you'd nail it
Report brassneck August 2, 2022 1:25 PM BST
And i have another question.When Armstrong came down the ladder(that had no bottom step)he made the first footprint on the moon.
how come Buss Aldrin did not spoil the first footprint when he came down after him.they had to be walking on the same ground.
Laugh
Report top2rated August 2, 2022 1:29 PM BST
Calling brassneck, comingupthehill & Johnny The Guesser.

Your new profile photos have been approved....


🤡      🤡      🤡
Report ease August 2, 2022 2:31 PM BST
Not Johnny The Guesser, if you re-read his post, he's making a good point with irony.
Report mitolo August 2, 2022 4:33 PM BST
funny how bras and cumming can see this clearly yet the astronomer royal, sir martin ryle and every astronomer and cosmologist youve never heard of and one you have, brian cox, have all swallowed it. unless they are also in on it. thatsa lorra science all in the swindle and zero dissent, anywhere in the world. remarkable when you think about it, but not if you dont.

still waiting for the op to say why the ussr and china allowed this to happen, cos they most certainly know about it. ang on... they are in on it as well. blimey.
Report stridingedge August 2, 2022 4:35 PM BST
Surely it's just the cheese rays emanating from the surface.
Report ProSniper August 2, 2022 4:40 PM BST
Buzzy gave himself away by losing his cool with authentic truth seeker..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw9azZmLxtw&t=0m43s
Report mitolo August 2, 2022 4:42 PM BST
^another loon. the cheese is not at the surface-it is deep in the moons inner core and is cultivated and used as food by the clangers.
Report lead on August 2, 2022 5:36 PM BST
I think they've put some of it in Brassneck's new tablets!
Report stridingedge August 2, 2022 5:40 PM BST
mitolo my bad Grin
Report brassneck August 2, 2022 9:05 PM BST
i hope you all know that the protection of THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT IS PARAMOUNT.Just imagine if the people were told that they were hoodwinked.NO CHANCE of that happening ,better to tell them the flag was blowing with movement used by Neil and Buzz.LaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report brassneck August 2, 2022 9:14 PM BST
By the way the chemical compound of the rocks found on the moon and taken back to earth are identical to the chemical compound of the rocks in the Arizona desert.Shocked
Report stridingedge August 2, 2022 9:56 PM BST
https://eos.org/articles/earth-rocks-and-moon-rocks-are-more-different-than-...
Report brassneck August 2, 2022 10:41 PM BST
It took them 50 years to come out with that one,and NASA have an answer for everything .Last year Armstrong's wife found a camera that Neil had said he left on the moon.Laugh
Report thelatarps August 2, 2022 11:47 PM BST
Just because youre paranoid doesnt mean they are not out to get you

I dont believe the moon landings were a hoax.
But I sure as sheeit believe that Lady Di was topped by MI6.
any more for any more?
Report brassneck August 3, 2022 12:59 AM BST
Elvis was seen at the last home match for Sligo Rovers wearing blue suede shoes,and some people think he is dead.
some people say David Bowie was in his company.i believe both of them are Sligo fans.Shocked
Report Emitdeb August 3, 2022 6:20 AM BST
I would love the moon landings to be a huge hoax, but I truly believe that's not the case.. Lady Diana murder... just too convenient not to be the case. imo too.
Report Movewiththetimes August 3, 2022 8:03 AM BST
Who knows if the MI6 were planning something but in the end reality always has a simple explanation, they didn't need to when you have a drunk driver trying to be Lewis Hamilton Sad
Report Movewiththetimes August 3, 2022 8:05 AM BST
The thing what has always puzzled me and it's still happening today is why doesn't the bodyguard breathalyse the driver before they get in Crazy
Report duncan idaho August 3, 2022 10:15 AM BST

comingupthehill

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Only about 50 would of been needed maybe less to make this happen.

Astronauts were the best of the best. The loyalist of the loyal USA airmen. When the lie is so big and the mission is proving USA is better than ussr. They d fall in line. The nasa team would monitor a real take off and flight then the fake one would cut into the feed from Nevada.
It was a tv show proving to the world that the USA was the best. A lot easier given the crap technology available at the time.

Who would speak up. Risking losing their job. Any anomaly would be dismissed as faulty feed. Who would then demand that it is investigated.


What’s the point of the official secrets act being signed if anyone can just break it later. And who would actually have real proof. They d just think. That didn’t seem right then if they asked their boss would be fobbed off or moved to another dept.


Look at the state of the USA under trump. It was 10 times worse in the 60s.


Faking the landings is far easier than actually doing it.

Given the denial of idiots on here who seek certainty in the world so that they sleep well at night is the main reason why it’s still not come out.


When will we go back. When will they have to admit it’s fake. When we are all dead. So it won’t really mattter.

Believe what you believe. It’s a bit like religion. Just have faith then it’s real. Whatever gives you strength and certainty to help you in your daily life.

Top list of lies everyone joins in on
1.god
2.Father Christmas
3.the tooth fair

Lying to make people feel safe and happy is taught from birth.

We didn’t really have computers in the 60s. But we could build a space ship out of vacuum cleaner parts




Can't be 100% certain but actually dont think he's fishing   Blush
Report mitolo August 3, 2022 12:35 PM BST
there is no stopping the loons. di was bumped off by mi6. course she was. convenient=secret plan to bump her off. as ever the d1ckheads come up with a nonsense hypothesis and and make a giant leap with no evidence other than their own stupidity.

amazing how the 'elites' come up with these fiendish plans and get away with it time after time and nobody ever spills the beans. if it was not for interweb forums we would never get to the truth.

if you wanted to bump her off the best way to do it is to get her chauffeur laggo and tell him to drive into a concrete bridge at 100 mph. cos thats what he would do after being brainwashed by the dgse. he sacrificed himself for the glory of fra... er
Report brassneck August 3, 2022 12:59 PM BST
Bob DYLAN must have knew about the plan about hoodwinking everyone his song blowing in the wind reminds me of the flag getting planted in the Arizona desertLaugh
Report Emitdeb August 3, 2022 3:21 PM BST
My theory was If Prince Phillip wished it (which I'm 100% positive he did) and it comes true... Wow! how lucky is he... If we question and doubt the answers were given.... I dont thick that makes us d1ckheads
Report Emitdeb August 3, 2022 3:22 PM BST
ooh... thick = think LaughLaughBlush
Report mitolo August 3, 2022 4:09 PM BST
how can you be 100% positive, unless you are a d1ckhead? and if he did and it happened it means nothing. what you call questioning is simply idiotic baseless cynicism. conspiracists bore on about 'questioning' but do not question what it is they allege did not happen.

one thing they dont have is a theory. they are absolutely adamant(100% you said) about something that is manifestly improbable, to put it mildly. you do not think what it is that you are saying. it is spectacularly less likely that this was a conspiracy than it is that it was a crash, by a very long chalk. cranks only believe the unbelievable.
Report Charlton2005 August 3, 2022 4:26 PM BST
cuth either mentally ill or the worlds greatest fisherman. my bet is the latter.
Report Emitdeb August 3, 2022 4:48 PM BST
Yeah 100% is probably an exaggeration.. 99.9% fits my opinion.. Please tone down the insults... we're not keyboard warriors, are we?
Report Emitdeb August 3, 2022 4:54 PM BST
Surely everyone could see the damage and potential damage Diana was causing the monarchy. The only possible way to stop that damage would have been her death. Just seemed too lucky to be true.. A bit like Chelsea winning the Champions league that time..
Report mitolo August 3, 2022 5:02 PM BST
99.9%. what a climbdown. your opinion is worthless, based on zero evidence.

you are at it again. the only possible way to stop her damaging the monarchy was her death? i dont fink so, but i wouldnt have an opinion, knowing nothing about the circs at the time. even if it were true, you make a giant leap to a deadly conspiracy to murder the most famous woman in the world, with no evidence to support it. not very clever.
Report Emitdeb August 3, 2022 5:30 PM BST
There are many theories about her surviving the crash only to go into cardiac arrest later, so on and so forth... It's the convenience to Prince Phillip that just gnaws at me.   

Doubt James Bond is gonna leave many clues behind.. Plain
Report Dr Crippen August 3, 2022 5:38 PM BST
i cant understand how a flag was blowing on the moon.

Perhaps someone farted?

That's a thought, how do they defecate wearing a space suit?

They must collect it in a bag and bring it back with them.

The stench in that spaceship must have been staggering.
Report mitolo August 3, 2022 5:41 PM BST
please supply a piece of evidence that shows pp wanted die to di. and if you cant, believing it 99.9% is not a sound opinion. you have suggested pp wanted her dead, which is unlikely and move from that massive guess to a murderous conspiracy.

'questioning' like what i have just wrote only goes one way when it comes to conspiracies. apply the same q to the conspiracists argument and they rapidly dissolve. they start with a massively unlikely hypothesis and scrabble around looking for reasons to support it (pp didnt like her).
Report ProSniper August 3, 2022 5:42 PM BST
Given they were jumping around in a studio, whenever they got too warm they could simply unzip and have huge fan cool them down.
Report mitolo August 3, 2022 5:42 PM BST
talking of stench, heres dr. drivel himself.
Report Dr Crippen August 3, 2022 6:01 PM BST
Calm down mitolo.

A little chap like you needs to look after himself.
Report Timber August 3, 2022 6:03 PM BST
I was always amazed how clear the phone call was from Nixon to the moon.

At the same time, people in the UK were watching black and white TVs and driving Morris minors Laugh
Report Timber August 3, 2022 6:08 PM BST
Only 385,000 Kms away but worked like a dream... First time
Report Dr Crippen August 3, 2022 6:10 PM BST
Buzz picks uip the phone......

How you doing Buzz?

Not too bad Mr President.

Have you got your story straight?

I've got that covered Mr P. If they ask any awkward questions I'll just sock em in the jaw.
Report Timber August 3, 2022 6:10 PM BST
No delay either... Absolutely amazing
Report Timber August 3, 2022 6:11 PM BST
It sounded like he was calling just down the road.
Science is amazing
Report ProSniper August 3, 2022 6:11 PM BST
"I've got that covered Mr P. If they ask any awkward questions I'll just sock em in the jaw."

Report Timber August 3, 2022 6:14 PM BST
https://youtu.be/wXIxfILaOsA

The tech has been destroyed

Somebody went over the original tapes with Debbie Does Dallas

LMFAO
Report mitolo August 3, 2022 6:24 PM BST
phone conversation = proof of a giant lie repeated 6 times and spotted by nobody anywhere except the interweb hawks.

will someone explain how 'they' have silenced every physicist cosmologist and astronomer in the world? ntia.
Report brassneck August 3, 2022 7:23 PM BST
AREA 51 is the answer to the silence,check it out,on second thoughts you better not.Laugh
Report leif August 3, 2022 7:23 PM BST
It's a bit careless isn't it losing the technology that took buzz lightyear and woody to the moon in '69.

Apollo 11 Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI_ZehPOMwI

The look on their chops doesn't radiate, 'look at us we've done something sensational', more like we are sat here dead uncomfortable and dreading any questions.Laugh
Report Life-Lucky August 3, 2022 7:30 PM BST
The Titanic was sabotage. The Hindenburg was an insurance job. 9/11 and JFK was CIA/Mossad. Covid/mRNA is a scam/eugenicist programme and 5G is a key component. UN/WEF/WHO/Wall St/City of London own the western world and everyone in it.

I like Love Someone in the 7.50
Report Emitdeb August 3, 2022 7:42 PM BST
Love Someone... I'm 99.9% sure this wont win.

I'm on Sea Gifted Happy
Report mitolo August 3, 2022 7:51 PM BST
if you are 99.9% sure you can lay it at 18%. greatest wager of all time.

lucky bang on the money. lucky indeed that with the advent of the interweb the truth is now available to all.
Report leif August 3, 2022 7:53 PM BST
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Bliss!

Mirolo/Mipolo a fookin loon Mischief
Report mitolo August 3, 2022 8:17 PM BST
Sad  distraught
Report barstool August 3, 2022 8:29 PM BST
I Started work at BTR back in the sixties and the assisstant personnel manager, David Trellfall, asked William Hill for odds of a man being on the moon before 1970 and was quoted 1000/1. He placed a £10 bet (a weeks wage for some at the time). He got paid out £10,000 and packed the job in. I believe he bought an MG sports car and was killed in it in Scotland a year or so later.

No whinging from WH, massive publicity for them at the time.

Think he placed the bet about 4 or 5 years before the landing happened. Some foresight, must have been like a big pools win back then.
Report mitolo August 3, 2022 8:44 PM BST
hills fell for it as well.

fair play to him. pity it ended so badly.
Report leif August 3, 2022 8:54 PM BST
Be nice if Trelfall bought a house with the winnings and he's sat there thinking 'who gives a to$$, I got paid out on it' Happy
Report thelatarps August 3, 2022 10:06 PM BST
Lady Di was an embarrassment to the ROyals. No doubt they would have been glad to see the back of her. I would not say they were involved in her death tho.

Henri Paul was MI6, dead.
James Andanson, the man who owned the Fiat Uno which was involved in the crash under the Alma bridge was MI6. Dead. Burnt alive upside down in another car in a field in france.
David Shayler who leaked some MI6 files a few years later told of an MI6 death squad whose modus operandi was to use a pillion passenger aboard a motorbike to flash a bright light into the eyes of an oncoming driver.
It was the same m.o. which killed Di's bodyguard Barry Manakee about a decade before.

This is of course all circumstantial but since all the relevant MI6 files on Di are classified we will never likely know.
I dont think its too far fetched to believe in some sort of intelligence involvement.

And this is MI6. The same organisation responsible for a boat load of fluck ups. From Roger Windsors involvement in the Miners strike; Their failure to identify the end of Communism in Russia when Margaret Thatcher, friend of Gorbachev, repeatedly told them it was imminent. And of course MI6 let the Manchester Arena bomber enter the country because his old man was a former agent.

I wouldnt trust the intelligence services of this country as far as I could throw that big ugly building they have on the banks of the Thames.

Fluck em.
THey killed Di.
Report doantwin2easy August 3, 2022 11:16 PM BST
Failures to identify the end of communism, or lapses in immigration due to nepotism are so far removed from state sponsored murder of an ostracised, ex member of the royal family. I'm certainly not questioning that the general inadequacy of the civil service has ever been in doubt.

But this sort of decision would have to be taken at the highest level, in the interest of national security. MI6 are accountable to the home secretary, unless you are suggesting that they went rogue.

Not saying it didn't happen. But often when people think about conspiracies, they forget that these things have to be sanctioned, and often there isn't the political or individual will to do so. Because somebody usually blabs for a start.
Report thelatarps August 3, 2022 11:32 PM BST
Lord only knows what goes on with the intelligence services.
Never gonna know.
You see enough Bond and Bourne films and you get the feeling truth is probably going to be wilder than fiction.

All you can say is that the circumstantials raise questions. Questions which will never be answered.
So why not assume the worst?
Report mitolo August 4, 2022 6:19 PM BST
another one. if you think mi6 are up to no good you are looking in the wrong direction. they are the salvation army compared to the russian chinese and iranian versions.

there is zero evidence. if you wanted to do her in, a drunk driver crashing into a bridge in paris isnt the most sensible. but of course, the loons will see that as sinister in itself. like they said about the salisbury poisoning-why would they do it when its so obvious was the cry'?

until it was obvious and even the loons backed off. theres no reason with these people-they say what they like and disappear when their nonsense is shot down. all they do is help the dictatorships who spread lies on the interweb that are picked up by mugs.

ever wonder why conspiracies only exist in the western democracies? you think the mass-murderers in the kremlin and china arent up to no good? theres a reason they block the interweb for their own people-they know they can use it to their advantage and are terrified of the effect it might have domestically.
Report thelatarps August 4, 2022 8:41 PM BST
The tone of that post seems to be..
Russia and China are evil dictatorships if only they could act like us in the western utopia.
Has it ever occurred to you that there is corruption in the west as well?
No country has forced more misery on the world than the UK.
The British empire forced opium on the chinese, famine on India, the slave trade on Africa and as for whatever the hell our governments have done in the island of Ireland for the past 1000 years.. no lessons appear to have been learnt because we are still flucking around over there to this day.
Still,
You keep parroting the ladybird book version of history and swallowing BBC news hook line and sinker.
Maybe one day you will come up with an idea which doesnt come from the opinion pages of the Sun newspaper.
Report mitolo August 4, 2022 9:16 PM BST
seems to be? only in your mind. dont project your own ignorance and prejudice onto others. its childish and dishonest. i judge everyone by the same standards and the topic of conversation was conspiracy theories that you go along with despite zero evidence. i merely pointed out that nasty regimes are never accused of being up to no good by the interweb truth-seekers yet all sorts of nonsense that is put out by nasty dictatorships is used as a weapon against the west and mugs cannot see this. why do you think russia has an internet research agency, which makes up nonsense yet denies their own people the chance to view it?

the british empire didnt force opium on china-it was a chinese problem and always has been. famine has been a common theme in india for millennia. and the maharajas and nabobs who had absolute power(and thousands of slaves and concubines) didnt give a sh1t.

the slave trade was not forced on africa. africans have always enslaved other africans. the british decided it was morally wrong(read any debate in the commons at the time, 220 years ago) and then unilaterally decided to try and end it when nobody else thought it was a problem. there was a naval squadron(at great cost in money and lives) that intercepted slave ships going to north and south america and returned them to africa, where they were immediately enslaved again by their own people. there are millions of slaves in africa now. why do we not hear about that? and theres never any mention of the arab slave trade that continued well into the 20th century.

the bbc is actually very anti-british, just look at its schedules. nowhere will you see a defence of britian-quite the reverse, its relentlessly negative and self-hating. racism and colonialism is an obsession. go and have a look if you dont believe it.

ive never read the sun.

'they' killed di you say. based on zero evidence. and you call me a mug when its obvious you are
Report brassneck August 4, 2022 10:10 PM BST
Anyway,the flag that buzz planted on the moon was bought in a north carolina mountain shop.
so Buzz plants this flag out in a wide open space where the 125 degree sunlight can shine on it.
it would be bleached within an hour,and a rag within a day,yet Nasa say its still up there.Crazy
Report Life-Lucky August 5, 2022 6:03 AM BST
Within a few years, unless God or circumstances get in the way, we will all have digital passports. Not worried? Well, do as your told, do the 'right' things, say nothing to doubt the brave new world with its veganism and sexual dysphoria and you might be alright.
Otherwise, Belmarsh isnt really that bad or if you're lucky just denial of healthcare and the ability to travel, inability to access the internet and punitive 'taxation' or withdrawal of benefits and pension rights.
And, of course, endless 'vaccinations' which mysteriously coincide with reduced fertility and increased mortality.
I'm happy for those who have no idea that all this is well on its way. Ignorance truly is bliss
Report doantwin2easy August 21, 2022 9:06 PM BST
Investigating Diana: death in Paris C4 now.
Report thelatarps August 22, 2022 1:26 AM BST
Yes
Just sat thru all 4 hours of it on all4
Time I aint ever gonna get back.
The film concludes with the Lord Stevens inquiry of 2008. An all encompassing exhaustive process featuring the lead investigators claiming to have had access to all MI6 files. Which, as is already known, found for death by tragic accident.
Wether you believe in the conspiracy is going to come down to wether you accept the honesty of the Lord Stevens investigative team.
The film leaves some questions unanswered.
Personally I am not convinced..
Report The Knight August 22, 2022 11:54 AM BST
brassneck...NASA saying the flag is 'still up there' is perfectly OK. Whatever state the flag is in, it will still be there!

Two things about the 'we never went to the moon' conspiracy people always make me laugh.

1/ The vast majority of them are not old enough to have lived through the moon landing years. I am, so my view that we did go to the moon is based on having been around at the time balanced up against the views developed since.

Now, and this might come as a shock to the know-it-all younger brigade, people in 1969 were not as easily fooled as is now believed. Had the moon landings been a fake, plenty would have spotted the 'fraud' and plenty would have spoken up. Why do the younger generations think they are unique in spotting the 'flag issue' alongside many of the other apparent untruths?

Indeed, plenty said plenty at the time but were soon shot away by logical answers. But back then without the support of other internet 'crazies' they shut up when their warped logic was defeated. 

2/ So, if there were no moon landings there could not have been any space shuttles, or space station, then?

The space station and the shuttles arose from the NASA program following the moon landings. I presume that all conspiracy theorists believe the shuttles, and the two terrible accidents, were invented as well then?

Of course we went to the moon and that arguably remains mankind's greatest achievement to date.
Report driver2 August 22, 2022 12:05 PM BST
You're right The Knight, of course we went to the moon, of course the tragedy that was 9/11 was real and sadly Diana was killed by a drunk driver, who couldn't control his car.
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