I give up, but look away now if you don't care about grammar and spelling

Where do you stand on the Doyle horse getting beat?

By the way, I enjoyed your rant and the banana skin.

I hear you brother
Thems the breaks I guess

I care

and you can be sure a strongly worded letter will be on its way post haste !

with NO spelling errors may i add

Two observations with regard to the OP:

1) Should it not be "for f**k's sake" not "for f**k sake"?

2) And surely it's "cue the abuse", not "queue the abuse"?

Your right airto.

I'll not rise to the bait, saddo!

Also, hello should of written 'on it's way post-haste'.

I'm no grammer Nazi but I have to fully agree with Arazi...and we wait with baited breath for his
measured response, and I'll also give Saddo the benefit of the doubt and add that I appreciate the
assumed sarcasm and take it that he too was pulling our píssers

Nice to know there are prícks on here as big as me who just won't bend to the moronic concensus

Jmaes Dyole truned on teh braeks wnhe hsi canhce eavpoarted

"Most" people can read sentences how ever they are written, the brain copes well. I personally couldnt give a damn how things are written. But thats just me

I agree with Arazi, but it's a minefield to get everything perfect , for instance , I think it is bated breath. ( Sorry Gibberish , I'm being pedantic ) .
There's probably something wrong in this post !

One thing that constantly annoys me is commentators who know nothing of adverbs ! “ He finished strong or He hit that perfect.” Strongly or perfectly !

Few of us are perfect and no one seems to care much these days, but I think it's important for those of us who do, not to dumb ourselves down and I find it galling when racing presenters/pundits who most of the time sound intelligent, use the term ''the last twice'', something I think may have originated with Richard Pitman.

Please spare me this abominable term..

Hasn't happened yet as far as I know but if , when a jockey or trainer is presented with a trophy, the compere says "Please give it up for (insert name)" meaning "Please applaud", I will scream. Give what up ffs?

It seems like a different language in this era and something everyone will just have to accept.

" I don't know nothing " is a term used by over 90% i'd say , so good luck trying to change that ( Manuel's fault in my view )

Mathematical deficiencies are rife , finding someone capable of subtracting two numbers these days isn't easy.

Bought at item for £1.68 last week in a local shop , the automatic till wasn't functioning so the young girl took about 40 seconds looking for a calculator to work out the change required.

It's the way of the world guys , get used to it as there are far bigger issues to worry about.


Good punting today all   

By the way, I enjoyed your rant and the banana skin. ... a banana skin or simply he's proved his point?

I always thought it was 'One foul swoop' right into adulthood..maybe just hearing someone saying it and guessing at what I'd heard.

Am with you 100%,Arazi.I think now the majority ARE illiterate.Well,you’ve only got to look on here.
Another question…..
does anyone presenting on TV have even one fxxxing O level ?

Hayden 07 Jul 22 11:00 
It seems like a different language in this era and something everyone will just have to accept.

" I don't know nothing " is a term used by over 90% i'd say , so good luck trying to change that ( Manuel's fault in my view )


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Could be my fading memory but I don't think  Manuel used the double negative,
I think he often said 'I know nothing'.

It all started with that popular music group the Rolling Stones saying  "I can't get no satisfaction". They led the youth of those days astray.

Thanks saddo , my mistake   

I've heard the saying " Them's the breaks " twice today.

thelatarps earlier in thread and Boris Johnson.

They couldn't be the same person could they ?

Brains - you were indeed being pedantic though you were correct...despite swallowing the bait in one gulp

However, your limited powers of detection missed a couple of Ronny Rosenthal land-mines strategically
positioned, so you've probably only lost the one leg by stepping in that steaming túrd

Very disappointed with the CONSENSUS on here in failing to correct the GRAMMAR in my 3:34 post - tut tut

All of you were blown up by that booby trap

I suppose the language and word meanings change with use or misuse all the time. Started centuries ago. Goodbye was , “ God be with you ,” and “ God“s Blood ! “ Was the most offensive word on the street. It's an interesting subject if you like that sort of thing.
Constant misuse of a phrase means it become the norm rather than the exception. One amusing one I like to quote is when we talk about the ball hitting the back of the net…….it's actually the front of the net !

.... I blame that Khant Westwood and his faux Rapping lingo.

The text youth of today should of paid more attention in skool and learned how to punctuate spell phrase correctly punctuate use commas use full stops etc etc I wasnt a star at skoo but i did at least learn the basics of how to consrukt a sentence wright and no were to use the correct punctuation and not use run on sentences and things like that that seam to be wrife with this generation i blame the bludy phone companys for this and the breakdown of basic english Literature i dont envy the teachers trying to drum this into the youth of today that dont know how to construct a basic sentence and keep repeating the same mistakes like repeating themselves and using run on sentences and not knowing how to use proper punctuation and using comas and full stops?

Brains - The evolution of words actually písses me off as we're eventually gonna come full circle in the distant future.

I once heard on QI that in pre-Shakey days (and I don't mean the 50s before that Welsh crooner) the word 'nice' meant
foolish, frivolous, senseless - near enough the opposite of what it is today.

That was a new one on me but there are many more everyday words with contradictory definitions, like buckle, scan or screen.

Those words above are actually in regular use in this day and age in both of their contexts.
And they've given them a collective name too - contranyms. Utterly pompous snobbery!

That's correct Gibberish.  Look at how many songs have been changed by the different meaning of “ gay “ , today !

Gilbert O'Sullivan.   “To think that only yesterday, I was cheerful , bright and gay.”
Judy G.  “Have yourself a merry little Christmas , Make the Yuletide gay .”
Freddy Mercury . “ Oh ,Yes , I'm the great Pretender , Just laughing and gay like a clown “

Oh well , maybe that last one is o.k. !

You forgot about Tom Robinson of 2,4,6,8 fame before he founded the EDL
though I'm sure he belongs firmly in Freddie's 'camp'

i was watching him do the glad to be gay thing on youtube recently where he did his story about alex harvey and the stoker

So many errors made in all walks of life now...and you know one of the main reasons why?

So few bother to CHECK what they have done. Stupid auto-text has inserted 'breaks' instead of 'brakes' in the OP's point and the 'journalist' did not bother to check what he had written - if that's what you can call it!

Standards are so low everywhere now and it is going to cost us dear eventually.

Too much PC, too much liberal thinking, too much 'be cool and live your best life' mentality etc etc etc. All sh*t and a return to some Victorian standards would not come amiss.

More and more the UK is becoming harder and harder to live in for a 62 year old with my slightly old-fashioned (read sensible) values!

Human been
loosers
he/she done well
quite unique (impossible)

Attention to detail doesn't exist anymore. Far too many uneducated thicks out there. Sadly a few of them found a job in the rancid ffs..

Slick - but they're so much smarter than us great unwashed because they've been to university

The Knight…..your last two paragraphs are spot on.Well said.

I remember using "quite unique" in an essay, to be told it was bit like being "a bit pregnant"

Wasn't Captain Kirk picked up by the Klingons for "boldly going"?..splitting infinitives, tut tut.
But to be honest, I probably do it all the time without understanding the rules

The Americanism  whereby the good old "very" is replaced by "super" gets on my nerves.
It's super cold today, ffs
(Is everyone else checking what they type on this thread? I nearly put an apostrophe in "gets" then )

I must get back to looking at the horses.
But don't know if you listened a year or two ago (now discontinued)...Dotun Adebayo on Radio 5 did The Grammar phone-in (play on words) every fortnight I think from 2am Monday morning till 4 where the two main guests would go hammer and tongs against each other about correct use of grammar. Some bitter exchanges together with people phoning in...

Think the bottom line is that should this topic become our biggest concern in life , then we can look forward to a fairly stress free future.

Anyone can be taught to write and speak well.

You could teach a monkey to do it if you had the time.

Don't get me going on apostrophes!!!

Jul 7, 2022 -- 12:52AM, saddo wrote:

Also, hello should of written 'on it's way post-haste'.

The use of "of" suggests Saddo knows what he's doing, so I'm happy to accept that the insertion of the apostrophe is a second example of conscious faux pas.

I'm recently retired but in the latter part of my career, my role included ensuring that legal documents had been correctly drafted by less experienced managers. I can say with a certain authority that the standards of grammar, spelling and puctuation produced by graduates shocked me to the core on a daily basis. But among them were some commercially astute individuals who will go on to do well in their chosen field. It seems that the world of work has changed its priorities.

Amazed that we have not had a reference to ...

"Them's The Breaks"  - by Boris. 

Saw a professionally painted sign over a shop . “ Mollys Cake's and Pastry's. “
If signwriters can't spot this we might as well all pack up !

you don't know for certain the shop wasn't owned by a Mrs Molly Cake and a Mr Pastry.

The recent generations are basically a bit thick and lack common sense. If you want to collapse their world in one easy move just hide their phone for a week, that'll learn them.

innit

Sticking with the original topic..something that really got me irritated four or five years ago but thankfully seems to have disappeared a bit now was mini-cab companies having on their cars 'Advanced Bookings only'.

FFS, it should have been ADAVANCE and not Advanced. To do something in advance is to do it before it is needed - IE book a cab. But Advanced means of the future, or went forward. Hence, did the cab companies mean you had to book using some technology from the future?!!

I know many will say it does't matter but it does. Get the small things correct and the big things will be easier.

But, to conclude my rant, what the f*ck have teachers been doing in schools for the past twenty-five years?!!

Ok, on that theme, what about the horse is headed to post?

I do like The Knight's all too rare postings and unlike a large contingent on here,
he's a decent poster who positively contributes to a healthy forum BUT...

I must insist on being a pedant here;

"FFS it should have been ADAVANCE and not Advanced"

He's stabbed himself in the bálls with that one

I've just seen a copy of my Granddaughter's end of year school report. (She's six). It said that A now has to develop an understanding of correct spelling and punctuation. Encouraging perhaps, but the school has just spent the whole of her first year encouraging her to write phonetically. So teach them the wrong way to do it, then teach them how to put it right. What a waste of time.

A bit unfair to cite "them's the breaks" as being poor grammar. Johnson was clearly  using a familiar colloquialism, alluding I believe, to how billard balls break to set up play in a manner that a player must accept. Obviously he was fully aware of the absence of grammatic authenticity.

sad really when there are people about like arazi
we all know what the geyser meant
if we didnt.....
...a u k education wouldn't save you

Can anyone advise me, should it be “the horse jumped novicey” or “the horse jumped novicely”?

To novice isn't a verb so novicely isn't an adverb so neither is correct in my book. I would think , “ The horse jumped like a novice “ is correct as a novice is a noun.

Gibberish...thanks for the compliment but why have I stabbed myself in the tender region with that line? Is it the capitals?

You don't book a cab in advanced,you book it in advance.

Hence, the can takes advance bookings and not advanced ones. Advanced is the wrong word to use in that context.

The Knight -  Who is this Ada Vance?

The Knight

Advance: Is to move forwards
Adavance: Is when you get buried in snow

Christ...just seen why a self-stabbing is required...

Hoisted by my own petard....I could pretend I typed Adavance to test people's reading skills but that would be b*llshit!

This thread is rapidly becoming a bit of a damp squid imo.

hi hjuygb dfgtre sdfret cmnza qazxsw edcvfr bgtyhn mjuikl  thats how you do it you f@@k idoit arazi you pr@@k