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31 May 22 13:49
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Leeson


By the end of 1992, the error account's losses exceeded £2 million, increasing to £23 million in late 1993. This amount ballooned to £208 million by the end of 1994.[17] Leeson had followed a "doubling" strategy: every time he lost money, he would bet double the amount that was lost in order to recoup the amount. This had been successful for him in the past, including once in 1993 where he was able to cover a £6 million negative balance in the error account and after which he vowed not to use the account again. However, Leeson had to maintain his reputation as a trading genius and soon found himself hiding his losses there again. As the losses grew higher and higher, Leeson fabricated cover stories to explain why he needed more cash from London; his sterling reputation protected him from close scrutiny

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By:
longbridge
When: 31 May 22 14:12
from the same Wikipedia article:

"two A level passes in English Literature and History with C and D grades respectively, failing his third subject, Mathematics..."
By:
test.for.free.account
When: 31 May 22 14:20
he has a website and gives talks about how to run business Laugh
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 31 May 22 14:22
Most gamblers I know are brilliant at maths.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 31 May 22 14:26
Also from the same article:

Leeson was appointed commercial manager of Galway United F.C. in April 2005, rising to the position of general manager in November 2005.[27] By July 2007 he had become the club's chief executive officer. In February 2011, after the club encountered financial problems, he resigned his position.
By:
longbridge
When: 31 May 22 14:28
To be fair, as I understand it, he gives talks about how companies can avoid being taken for a ride by people doing what he was doing.

I was in the City for the collapse of Barings - strange times.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 31 May 22 14:34
Indeed, longbridge.  Poacher turned gamekeeper.


Same wiki article:

He is also active on the keynote and after-dinner speaking circuit, where he advises companies about risk and corporate responsibility.
By:
test.for.free.account
When: 31 May 22 14:35
it's good to be a crook
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 31 May 22 14:35
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/back-to-the-futures-1.32909

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Confidence and sheer chutzpah is all it takes. Nick Leeson had both in spades. Within four years he was on his way, working for Barings, the City's oldest and most patrician merchant bank.
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 31 May 22 14:39
Martin Gale is effective.
By:
longbridge
When: 31 May 22 15:17
So many failings of the central Risk function - they were told not to look too hard at the Singapore operation because it was a huge fraction of Baring's revenues, when in reality that is exactly why they should have looked.
By:
Shanelee1966
When: 31 May 22 21:02
It`s a very good book too.
By:
i_agree_with_nick
When: 18 Jan 24 12:26
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By:
brassneck
When: 18 Jan 24 14:09
There are two sides to martingale,the punter and the layer,there is always a winner and a loser.The loser usually tells his story.
By:
DIFERENT GRAVY 12
When: 18 Jan 24 14:10
Same wiki article:

He turned out to be a right tw@t
By:
hulk23
When: 18 Jan 24 14:18
system working well. 

please send me another US$835 million so i can meet my margin obligations.

ok, Nick.  well done, monies on it's way.
By:
longbridge
When: 18 Jan 24 15:28
@test..

Nearly two years late on this but..

"it's good to be a crook"

I don't think he was really a crook in the direct sense.  He wasn't taking money to personally embezzle (though you could argue that his pay was inflated by the results he claimed).

He seems to have been mainly motivated by one or both of (a) maintaining a reputation as a wunderkind player in the eyes of his peers (b) a sense of responsibility in that the revenues of the Far East operation were seen as key in keeping Barings profitable in a period when their UK and European businesses were stalling or worse.
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