Noble ****

What did the Waley Cohens pay for it out of interest ?
Why keep Mullins as trainer ?

Perhaps they thought he could train it to win a National. Just a thought

One helluvathought BB
One piece of form with Ahoy
No long distance form
7yo trend bucker
I'd like some lotto numbers from the crew

Custer - The sales profile of the horse in the RP does show the EWM December 75k sale, so perhaps it was an editorial error.

The sales profile also shows the horse being unsold at 290k gns (YES 290,000 GNS!!!!) at the 4th Feb 21 Tatts sale. It shows the vendors rep as E Mullins. Was it then a private sale to Byrne? perhaps acting on behalf of the Waley-Cohens??

madhatters - I wasn't being entirely serious  as my latest post might indicate.

Apr 9, 2022 -- 3:33PM, blackbarn wrote:

madhatters - I wasn't being entirely serious

I knew that BB
Just delving down

Mullins not exactly got high profile (for now)
Or SR
Cohens got no other Irish trained
Was a time that 2m were the go to for national - Gay Trip etc
Never fathomed that one out
How did it slip under the Mcmanus/ willy/ Gigg spy network ?
More to meets the eye conspiracy theory
Will Sam belay his retirement to add future wins
Or what does his dad do with nags now - sell all

Once Sam gets over his ban btw

Apr 9, 2022 -- 3:31PM, blackbarn wrote:

Custer - The sales profile of the horse in the RP does show the EWM December 75k sale, so perhaps it was an editorial error. The sales profile also shows the horse being unsold at 290k gns (YES 290,000 GNS!!!!) at the 4th Feb 21 Tatts sale. It shows the vendors rep as E Mullins. Was it then a private sale to Byrne? perhaps acting on behalf of the Waley-Cohens??

Noble **** was a private sale from Edinburgh Woollen Mills to Paul Byrne
Don't think he ran for EWM

Custer - I didnt say he ran for EWM

Oops . pressed send too early. Meant to add that having been bought by EWM, the horse was then apparently offered for sale by them at a ridiculous(???) price, with EM apparently being the selling agent. This was then followed by a private sale to Mr Byrne, a close associate of Mr Mullins.

Another piece of the slightly strange profile, pulled up at the end of January after 8 fences (detached), declared by the vet as clinically abnormal. Then running in England only six days later.

The thot plickens, well it doesnt really!!  The horse was sold for £75k on 13/12/19 to Edinburgh Woollen Mills. By 30/12/19 it had been sold to Mr Byrne for, according to the RP, 75K.

Apr 9, 2022 -- 4:20PM, Cider wrote:

Another piece of the slightly strange profile, pulled up at the end of January after 8 fences (detached), declared by the vet as clinically abnormal. Then running in England only six days later.

He needed that race to qualify

Apr 9, 2022 -- 4:09PM, blackbarn wrote:

Oops . pressed send too early. Meant to add that having been bought by EWM, the horse was then apparently offered for sale by them at a ridiculous(???) price, with EM apparently being the selling agent. This was then followed by a private sale to Mr Byrne, a close associate of Mr Mullins.

I bought a Mare from Edinburgh Woollen mills November 2019

we hear these ' clever' stories all the time ...fact is , story no 1 has it . 39 other stories don't make it .

He needed that race to qualify


of course but he was only 7, and risked travelling a sick horse overseas to qualify for a race he was a long shot for, when he could have easily skipped this year. who knows what goes on behind the scenes, and I'm not a vet but that seems an incredibly short recovery time from being unable to raise a gallop, to putting in a career best effort after travelling abroad.

The Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board Veterinary Officer examined Noble ****, trained by Emmet Mullins, at the request of the Stewards and reported the animal to be clinically abnormal. Samples were taken for analysis

B. Hayes, rider of Noble **** trained by Emmet Mullins, reported to the Clerk of the Scales that his mount never travelled and was pulled up thereafter.