The winner traded at 35 IR. In the previous 2 days the system had IR winners at 25; 150 30, now 35. No matter what lay system, greening up is worth it.
The winner traded at 35 IR. In the previous 2 days the system had IR winners at 25; 150 30, now 35. No matter what lay system, greening up is worth it.
Gaze73301 Apr 22 14:41Joined: 15 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 7,352 | Blogger: Gaze733's blog why are IR layers such mugs?
Bit rich from a so called "tipster" 200 pts down last month
Gaze73301 Apr 22 14:41Joined: 15 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 7,352 | Blogger: Gaze733's blogwhy are IR layers such mugs?Bit rich from a so called "tipster" 200 pts down last month
The points are inflated. E.g. I advised 2.5 pts each way on a 200/1 shot(440 BSP; 150/1 ISP), he finished 4th by a neck and it's "5 pts" down the drain.
The points are inflated. E.g. I advised 2.5 pts each way on a 200/1 shot(440 BSP; 150/1 ISP), he finished 4th by a neck and it's "5 pts" down the drain.
5 runners ..gaze advises laying all 5 in 99% market and still wins..now claiming 4 as loosers in the cistern...
stick to editing your p&l ya silllleeekkhhhunt.
5 runners ..gaze advises laying all 5 in 99% market and still wins..now claiming 4 as loosers in the cistern...stick to editing your p&l ya silllleeekkhhhunt.
5 runners ..gaze advises laying all 5 in 99% market and still wins..now claiming 4 as loosers in the cistern...
stick to editing your p&l ya silllleeekkhhhunt.
5 runners ..gaze advises laying all 5 in 99% market and still wins..now claiming 4 as loosers in the cistern...stick to editing your p&l ya silllleeekkhhhunt.
Gaze73301 Apr 22 15:15Joined: 15 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 7,360 | Blogger: Gaze733's blog still +674 overall. I guess mr geoff here has never had a losing month
Im not the clown spouting Favs never lose and a plethora of winning cisterns.
Gaze73301 Apr 22 15:15Joined: 15 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 7,360 | Blogger: Gaze733's blogstill +674 overall. I guess mr geoff here has never had a losing monthIm not the clown spouting Favs never lose and a plethora of winning cisterns.
Dashing dick 80 IR, incredible. I'm tracking every winner and out of 16 winners so far the IR odds were 25, 150, 30, 35, 80. According to TM, I shouldn't green up with keep bets LOL. Just a pure coincidence yet again, right TM?
Dashing dick 80 IR, incredible. I'm tracking every winner and out of 16 winners so far the IR odds were 25, 150, 30, 35, 80. According to TM, I shouldn't green up with keep bets LOL. Just a pure coincidence yet again, right TM?
Gaze73301 Apr 22 20:28Joined: 15 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 7,368 | Blogger: Gaze733's blog So in one day I got IR winners at 35; 80; 22; 70, TM still says I shouldn't green up
So it was you that got the 12 pence matched (at the maximum price matched in-running) on all four of those?
Well done! - Did you also get the maximum price when you greened-up on all the losers that you layed?
It's no wonder you can't make it pay - giving away the value on both sides of your bets - when you lay a loser you bet a chunk of it back and when you back a winner you lay a chunk of it back. You are so shrood.
Gaze73301 Apr 22 20:28Joined: 15 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 7,368 | Blogger: Gaze733's blogSo in one day I got IR winners at 35; 80; 22; 70, TM still says I shouldn't green upSo it was you that got the 12 pence matched (at the maximum price matched in-r
Gaze733 15 Feb 22 19:31 Horse Racing: €2438.32 Total P&L: €2438.32
poor gaze omitted a comma
gaze733 15 Feb 22 21:05 perhapps you should lean about how bets are settled instead of reading pm messages from rico flappers take it none of you have paddy accounts , some times setters seem to omit full stops or comas
not that shrood.
Gaze733 15 Feb 22 19:31Horse Racing: €2438.32Total P&L: €2438.32poor gaze omitted a commagaze733 15 Feb 22 21:05perhapps you should lean about how bets are settled instead of reading pm messages from rico flapperstake it none of you have paddy
TM you want to know a secret? When you have a keep back at 30 and the horse drifts to 80, you will get fully matched! You want to know another secret? When you have a 5% win rate backing at 30 IR, you will make a profit! Enjoy this free lesson.
TM you want to know a secret? When you have a keep back at 30 and the horse drifts to 80, you will get fully matched! You want to know another secret? When you have a 5% win rate backing at 30 IR, you will make a profit! Enjoy this free lesson.
Gaze73301 Apr 22 20:28Joined: 15 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 7,368 | Blogger: Gaze733's blog So in one day I got IR winners at 35; 80; 22; 70,
So you are doing your keep bets at 30?So this was a load of bollox?Gaze73301 Apr 22 20:28Joined: 15 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 7,368 | Blogger: Gaze733's blogSo in one day I got IR winners at 35; 80; 22; 70,
I quote the highest price just to show you how unlucky I am, and how stupid IR layers are, not because I have actually backed it at the highest point. I'm not a prophet, duh.
I said it happens every single month but you still won't believe me even if I get 4 huge comebacks in one day.
I quote the highest price just to show you how unlucky I am, and how stupid IR layers are, not because I have actually backed it at the highest point. I'm not a prophet, duh.I said it happens every single month but you still won't believe me even if
I have posted like 200 lays here in 2 years, at least 10 of those came back from 50-1000 IR. The expected amount would be 1-2 if the IR layers weren't idiots.
I have posted like 200 lays here in 2 years, at least 10 of those came back from 50-1000 IR. The expected amount would be 1-2 if the IR layers weren't idiots.
Of course keep-bets are bad value - you are static, a sitting duck in a fast moving market and therefore getting picked off at bad value most of the time. Why do you think the massive majority of PC players are people playing with a time advantage?
You will 100% always get matched on the losers you have layed and your "saver" won't get matched (at 30) on the vast majority of the winners.
Even laying at odds of just 5/1 and placing a "saver" at 30 - do the maths, the cost of your "saver" keep bet (that will always get matched on all of your successful lays) means whenever you lay a 5/1 loser, you have effectively always layed it at 6/1. That's a massive price to pay for a the handful of "savers" that work out for you.
I know this and your lifetime of losing should also tell you this. Look at your balance, the numbers don't lie!
Of course keep-bets are bad value - you are static, a sitting duck in a fast moving market and therefore getting picked off at bad value most of the time. Why do you think the massive majority of PC players are people playing with a time advantage? Y
Scenario 1: Lay 100 horses at 6.0. 12 win -60pts, 88 lose + 88pts = +28 pts Scenario 2: Lay 100 horses at 6.0. 12 win -60pts, 88 lose + 88pts = +28 pts, -88pts for keep bets, 5 IR winners at 30.0 +145pts, total = +57pts, which is twice as much as scenario 1, not less.
What kind of clown argument is that? Scenario 1: Lay 100 horses at 6.0. 12 win -60pts, 88 lose + 88pts = +28 ptsScenario 2: Lay 100 horses at 6.0. 12 win -60pts, 88 lose + 88pts = +28 pts, -88pts for keep bets, 5 IR winners at 30.0 +145pts, total = +
The Management02 Apr 22 12:14Joined: 27 Dec 00 | Topic/replies: 7,445 | Blogger: The Management's blog If your fantasy about keep-bets were true - you wouldn't need to be posting fake P&L's would you!
The Management02 Apr 22 12:14Joined: 27 Dec 00 | Topic/replies: 7,445 | Blogger: The Management's blogIf your fantasy about keep-bets were true - you wouldn't need to be posting fake P&L's would you!
Backed a loser the other day , on post race analysis the conclusion was don't back bottom weights , Jockey can't have a W in his name , has to be less than 10 runners and of course it was Wednesday.
That's another mistake i won't make again.
Backed a loser the other day , on post race analysis the conclusion was don't back bottom weights , Jockey can't have a W in his name , has to be less than 10 runners and of course it was Wednesday.That's another mistake i won't make again.
Gaze73302 Apr 22 15:30Joined: 15 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 7,379 | Blogger: Gaze733's blog Antunes 40 IR, nobody could have seen it coming.
My only bet today was a keep-bet on Antunes at 36.00
btw - what time does it run?
Gaze73302 Apr 22 15:30Joined: 15 Mar 12 | Topic/replies: 7,379 | Blogger: Gaze733's blogAntunes 40 IR, nobody could have seen it coming.My only bet today was a keep-bet on Antunes at 36.00btw - what time does it run?
What time does it run? Antunes was posted early in today's lay thread. I explained that backing them at 30IR is profitable and there was a winner literally 2 hours later. I thought you'd just say that it was a poor value bet at 30.0 because it drifted to 40.0 LOL.
Shortcross Storm 40 to 1.47, close.What time does it run? Antunes was posted early in today's lay thread. I explained that backing them at 30IR is profitable and there was a winner literally 2 hours later. I thought you'd just say that it was a poor