bravesmangame n/r

due to COC

You missed the letter K from your post

fury road out.

Trained to minute, all of those entry costs. Spoiled the race too. If it was just the rain it would be easier to take.

Race ruined. WD

What a bottler.There’s only one Festival.

has this ever happened before

ffs

Hope no watering tonight

Has it rained all morning?

Placepotters sh1tting themselves now they are on a fav they dont like.

least for once its not claisse to blame, times its rained all around Cheltenham and never hit the track. laughable really..

Pumpkin going for it.

nicholls trying best to be diplomatic here

Strange choice to me - as in its last race post interview they were saying how stamina is its forte and it stays forever. And its raced on soft before and performed well. I never get these choices personally. I remember the horse of Jeffersons waiting patiently years ago kept ducking races when it was at the top of its form and they just left money and good races on the table for no reason imo. The horse is really at its peak right now, if you dont run it then you maybe never again get chance at Grade 1 race at festival.

p nicholls livid.

If it continues during the week, could we have Gold cup commentary similar to hes beginning to get up.

One thing about PN............he really rates this horse.

Absolutely pathetic!

Has got used to too many easy pickings.

acey deucy..your right about that.......that said could have a worse sub.

Yes and i hope the fav gets stuffed cus i stillgot two in the race.

Feel sorry for people with Anglian double glazing windows trying to throw the form book out the window.

so he new all morning but waits till the fookin placepots start ffs

2 of my placepot selections are non runners

I have aswell acey but would of liked 3

If the owner wanted it to run it would be running , so blame owner if anyone albeit on advice

I blame them Islamics.

I blame the Russians

I blame Boris

bottler always has been

Bindaree - you caused me such pain.  5 from 31 chases you won and one of them had to be on 6th April 2002. 
Every neighbour in the street heard me shouting on Whats Up Boys! 
Be lucky. 

Far too much racing means the top trainers can cherry pick. As a result Cheltenham is the most over-

rated sporting event on the calendar.

nube negra n/r

Skelton another bottler.Both horses have won on soft,ffs.

3 days was great as you didn't want to miss a second

4 days means you tend to pick and choose a bit more , if needing to pop out it's easy to pick a race you didn't mind missing.

5 days would be a disastrous move.

3 days was great as you didn't want to miss a second

4 days means you tend to pick and choose a bit more , if needing to pop out it's easy to pick a race you didn't mind missing.

5 days would be a disastrous move.

they should have it all week like Galway.

Could Hendo have done what Nicholls did ie withdrew Bravemansgame? Hendo was categoric and adamant it was the ground that undid Shishkin.

Yes but he did say you don't know until you try.

I've never heard Sir Cecil ever said that about a horse. Sir Cecil was so adamant keeping Frankel out of 1m 4f including the Derby. He was not for swaying despite the pressure from so-called tipsters/professional pundits either.

I hope Shishkin has not gone the way as Altior post his duel with Cyrname.

impossible123

"Could Hendo have done what Nicholls did ie withdrew Bravemansgame? Hendo was categoric and adamant it was the ground that undid Shishkin" .

Hayden

"Yes but he did say you don't know until you try"


The horse had won six out of seven on soft going and fell at the 2nd the other time the horse encountered soft going

  Add in  his one run on heavy "bit keen, chased leaders, 2nd travelling well before 6th, ridden to lead run-in, soon quickened clear" which resulted in an 11 length romp you would have to say Henderson was talking b0ll0x

Indeed. Something could be amiss with him rather than purely the ground for his undoing. Or he'd be sulking or emptying after the hard race at Ascot.

Hendo does come up with some rather far-fetched reason as an excuse for a below-par performance contrary to form book.

The going would not have affected him until late in the race, if that was the reason for the run.

Clearly something was amiss.

Indeed. That's what annoyed me most; treating some of us as dumb-bells. Maybe Hendo could send him to Ireland next month for redemption to reciprocate the effort by the Irish for the Clarence House.

LOYALHONCHO- I could have called myself EARTH SUMMIT. those were the days Twiston Davies used to get them handicapped with the right horse to win Nationals

Now I did do Earth Summit.  Had that in mind from before Xmas!  Told a new employee to back it and nothing else in lead up week and he looked at me as if I was daft.  Different attitude come Monday morning! 
Best of it is Culloty was my favourite jockey at the time - just latched on to What's Up Boys after its storming finish at Cheltenham.  And when the avalanche of dosh came for him I was walking on air as I was off on the Sunday for a golfing fortnight with the guys!  Couldn;t believe it when he led and then got passed by the horse he'd just passed himself approaching the last! 
Be lucky! 

Bindaree gave me so much pleasure on that Saturday. Whats Up Boys as much by nailing me the FC! Best National ever for me.

NR’s…..the bottlers are at it already.

I thought Tiger Roll hated soft ground - that seemed to run ok... trainers look for any excuse. Soft ground is not to blame for Shiskin in a performance where its beat by the first fence. Its wasn't the Somme - it was winetr ground that Shiskin had consistnetly run and performed on before.

Well said,6699.

Nicholls jumped ship with Saint Calvados and few today similarly Hendo. Lesson learnt?