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26 Feb 22 10:14
Date Joined: 11 Jan 11
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Another caught up in this social media nonsense.
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Report deeppockets February 26, 2022 10:19 AM GMT
I have always enjoyed Chapman's takes when he plays the serious journalist instead of the 21st century version of John McCririck.
Report sparrow February 26, 2022 10:23 AM GMT
Chapman not a patch on McCririck.
Report wallis February 26, 2022 10:29 AM GMT
"I know he has been drinking , taking drugs , breaking covid , turning up to ride horses while over the limit and putting himself and others in danger , but he's not a bad lad , please let him off your honour..."
Report HallGreenSpy February 26, 2022 10:44 AM GMT
Well whod've thunk it! Depressingly obvious.
Report A_T February 26, 2022 11:00 AM GMT
I have always enjoyed Chapman's takes when he plays the serious journalist instead of the 21st century version of John McCririck.

TBF there was a serious side to McCririck
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk February 26, 2022 11:16 AM GMT
Chapman is a contrarian so he gets the attention he craves

1 minute he's up Tylicki's backside who allegedly suffered at the hands of a "drunken" jockey, the next he's defending another drunken jockey because he's an addict.

14 months is perfectly adequate
His defence of "trainers decide jockey's championships" and "the maths isn't straight forward in deleting Murphy's winning mounts" while he should have not been near a racecourse is also ridiculous.

Trying to adopt the moral high ground with his belief that addicts should be treated differently and shout down Adele was cringeworthy.
Report DIFERENT GRAVY 12 February 26, 2022 11:20 AM GMT
I think he wants to bum him!
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk February 26, 2022 11:23 AM GMT
It's certainly a very strange relationship.
One that certainly seems to make OM look uncomfortable whenever I've seen him with the much older man MC
Body language screams get this idiot away from me.
No wonder he turned to booze
Report sparrow February 26, 2022 11:33 AM GMT
A_T 26 Feb 22 11:00 
I have always enjoyed Chapman's takes when he plays the serious journalist instead of the 21st century version of John McCririck.

TBF there was a serious side to McCririck

McCririck was a fine investigative journalist in his earlier years and here are some examples.......

Joining The Sporting Life in the early 1970s was the making of McCririck and, in a way, the making of The Sporting Life. His brashness and arrogance made him unpopular with the staff, but Ossie Fletcher, the Life's editor, recognised his worth.

McCririck brought investigative reporting to the Life, and racing has never had a better exponent of it. In 1978, McCririck was voted the Specialist Writer of the Year in the British Press Awards; in 1979, the Campaigning Journalist of the Year.

In 1978, McCririck had exposed a sting based on the fact that Extel, who used to broadcast commentaries into betting shops, gave the off-times for greyhound races in minutes, without the refinement of seconds. By briefly delaying the commentaries, criminals were able to back dogs after a race had started.

The same year, McCririck took the lead in covering the Rochester greyhound coup, which would have won pounds 350,000 for its clever architects, and should have done, but bookmakers refused to pay out.

In 1979, McCririck hit the jackpot with "Totegate". On July 4, at Carlisle, Shine On, at 11-1, and Tinas Gold, at 20-1, finished first and second in an 18-runner handicap. The dual forecast paid 45p to a 10p stake.

Persistence enabled McCririck to establish that the Tote had developed a practice of putting winning off-course bets into the racecourse pool after the race result was known.

Further persistence persuaded a reluctant Home Secretary, Willie Whitelaw, to set up an independent inquiry from which Woodrow Wyatt, the Tote chairman, was lucky to escape with his job.

At the Life, McCririck revealed what he still displays, a tremendous feel for what matters to punters, and what stands at the core of racing and betting issues. It was McCririck who issued an early, 1983, warning against computerised SPs.
Report Hayden February 26, 2022 11:45 AM GMT
Nice1 sparrow , too easy for the younger punting brigade to think Big Mac was only good for the less serious side of his persona.     Happy
Report HallGreenSpy February 26, 2022 11:47 AM GMT
1 minute he's up Tylicki's backside who allegedly suffered at the hands of a "drunken" jockey, the next he's defending another drunken jockey because he's an addict.

Very good point jcm. I remember him preaching the day of the tylicki hearing result.
Report know all February 26, 2022 11:49 AM GMT
chapman was good there, addict its a serious illness he has just like gambling serious illness, no one is above the law i think we know thats nonsense, boris and co
Report Cider February 26, 2022 11:53 AM GMT
His argument is illogical anyway, the bulk of the ban is related to the wilful and sustained deception and covid breaches. Not the element related to alleged alcohol addiction. It has confused the situation conflating the offenses together, purposely perhaps.
Report HallGreenSpy February 26, 2022 12:03 PM GMT
I agree with that know all but he can't have it both ways to suit. Hypocrisy is not a good trait.
Report blunder February 26, 2022 12:15 PM GMT
just typical of someone sticking up for a mate, certainly not a balanced view of both sides of the story.
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk February 26, 2022 12:49 PM GMT
Chapman takes the view it's about Murphy and his well being.
Punishment is meant to hurt and affect the guilty in order deter them and others from committing the same offences.
Chapman seemed to think that 6 months should have been enough (to treat Murphy's addiction) yet castigated Adele when she said 14 months was right.
Chapman is no more an expert on addiction than anyone else so why he plucked a period of 6 months out of the air is anyone's guess
Addiction is the addicts responsibility and with help can recover, but we don't all throw our arms up in the air and excuse dangerous behaviour due to our weaknesses.
Try that defence court facing drink driving charges and see if it makes any difference to a judge.

The covid breaches should be investigated by the police too. Lets be consistent.
Report impossible123 February 26, 2022 1:42 PM GMT
Murphy lied thro' his teeth at the outset, and only admitted when his pack of lies began to implode infront of his eyes. He was time-wasting until then. And, for a young jockey (and a young man) that behaviour was deplorable.

14 months is too lenient. I think 5 years would be a more appropriate period off the track for lying and trying to deceive the BHA.
Report vantastic54 February 26, 2022 3:10 PM GMT
Murphy acted like a gob****.Totally foolish and potentially dangerous behaviour but 5 years ban is absurd Just an opinion.
Report MJK February 26, 2022 3:21 PM GMT
Once again blows a big hole into the 'he tells it like it is' nonsense we hear from Chapman's fan boys on here.
Report impossible123 February 26, 2022 4:26 PM GMT
Horseracing does not need selfish characters like Murphy. He was over-lauded too. The continued support of rich owners is wholly misplaced - there are so many more-deserving and talented jockeys about than Murphy.

I think 5 years out of the game is the only and correct punishment for his selfish and win regardless (lying and cheating) mentality. I'll not miss him one bit off the track!
Report Adelaide February 26, 2022 5:57 PM GMT
Well after he's been hung, drawn and quartered, [see above].. I hope he gets a job on t.v.   I presume he's allowed to work?  on ATR with one of the ladies, not with Chapman - he gets too personal and that's the last thing he needs..
Report Deptford February 26, 2022 8:36 PM GMT
He is just a big mouthed koont who should be removed from any sort of media employment
Report Ramruma February 27, 2022 9:13 AM GMT
@Cider is right. Only three months of the ban was for booze, yet Chapman appears to be saying six months is needed to come off the bottle. Taken literally, Chapman is arguing for a longer sentence!

From the Racing Post report of the case:-
An independent judicial panel on Tuesday ruled the three-time champion jockey will not be able to reapply for his riding licence for 14 months, backdated to December 8, with 11 months handed out for Covid breaches and conduct prejudicial to the sport's reputation plus a further 100 days for two positive alcohol tests.
Report G Hall February 27, 2022 9:18 AM GMT
He gets 14 months for 5 breaches, Robbie Dunne gets 17 months for 1 breach, if the roles (hypothetical) were reversed Dunne would have possibly got 3+ years, and Murphy would have got off.
Report 1st time poster February 27, 2022 10:21 AM GMT
he,s just an average jock who could be replaced by 30 others given the same chances and wont be missed for a nano second of any of those 14 months,chappers fails to tell you he was within a second of shoving a glass in someones face and wouldnt be riding many winners around  the scubs,and as he,s been caught 5 times lying breaking rules we can safely assume there,ll be 10,s of other incidences the likes of chappers have  helped cover up
Report impossible123 February 27, 2022 6:04 PM GMT
Apparently some senior jocks (in the weighing-room) did not reckon his behaviour was anything untoward concerning Frost. And, the perpetrator got 18 months as a result - his 1st offence!

A high-profile jockey Murphy only 14 months for deliberating flouting the rules and Covid protocol and several booze abuses. How'd that be correct and justified? BHA caught napping again!
Report Ramruma February 27, 2022 6:24 PM GMT
Robbie Dunne was in breach of four counts over seven months. They can't all have been his first offence.

Dunne's appeal is due to be heard on the 30th March, so we may as well wait four weeks and see what happens. He is appealing both the verdict and the sentence.
Report impossible123 February 28, 2022 8:02 PM GMT
Would Dunne have been guilty and received 18 months if his fellow jockeys had been the judge and jury? Absolutely NOT!

On the other hand, would Murphy have been found guilty and received 14 months for substance abuse and breaking Covid-protocol? Absolutely YES!
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