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MJK
01 Jan 22 14:42
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Shameful ride
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Report shoodacoodadidnt • January 1, 2022 2:44 PM GMT
What a brilliant ride to keep it out of the 4!!!! No-one gives a flying fuc* do they? Nothing will be done. NO effort in the final strides. As you say..... SHAMEFUL!!!!
HN feckn Y
Report MJK • January 1, 2022 2:45 PM GMT
He even lost an iron at the last. But he was just nudging the horse all the way anyhow. Maybe Chapman should ask him about that.
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! • January 1, 2022 2:46 PM GMT
EyeCATCHER
For the Pertemps!!!

LaughDevilGrin
Report charbar67 • January 1, 2022 2:46 PM GMT
Would’ve had to be Big Bucks to have won the way it was ridden
Report CROPSICK • January 1, 2022 2:48 PM GMT
gone have to get  qualified for pertempts yet
Report MJK • January 1, 2022 3:32 PM GMT
'The stewards noted that Paddy Brennan lost his iron after the last and regained it shortly afterwards'.
Report in hell • January 1, 2022 3:55 PM GMT
Giving it the large one on that
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! • January 1, 2022 3:56 PM GMT
Just
PRATICING

LaughLaughLaugh
Report MJK • January 1, 2022 3:57 PM GMT
Absolute sickening, but let's do another in depth interview with him to show what a great bloke he is eh.
Report Twoboyz • January 1, 2022 4:01 PM GMT
The 3rd horse ran well
Report Gnomes • January 1, 2022 10:56 PM GMT
Agree it was a very odd ride by Brennan and why he didn't ride his horse out for at least 4th place was very strange . He did Not remotely ride his horse to obtain the best possible position . On the flip side in the race he rode a text book style finish that oozed confidence
Report Dr Crippen • January 2, 2022 12:03 AM GMT
The winner of that race didn't appear to making much effort either but it still won
Report shoodacoodadidnt • January 2, 2022 6:56 AM GMT
"jockey fiddling with iron briefly just after last" - sporting life comment - love that - I've watched again and again (had a big bet on the place) - I don't see him lose an iron AND he took a pull 20 yards from line - compare with rider trying on actual 4th - really disgraceful and the kind of thing that puts normal punters off the sport - not me of course (addict)
Report MJK • January 2, 2022 10:20 AM GMT
I also bet it the time before when it won and took up the running turning for home. The horse looked as though it would have no trouble with the extra couple of furlongs so that can't be used as an excuse to ride it like a non stayer.
Report shoodacoodadidnt • January 2, 2022 3:22 PM GMT
He had several excuses just in case - held up in case didn't stay, lost my irons blah blah
Report Dr Crippen • January 2, 2022 3:56 PM GMT
Raised in class, raised in distance, up 8 lbs on h/cap.

Another £750 for fourth place. I think he'd have tried harder if the horse had anything left.
Report MJK • January 2, 2022 4:01 PM GMT
My problem isn't the last furlong, it's the previous 17.
Report shoodacoodadidnt • January 2, 2022 7:02 PM GMT
So Dr "he'd have tried harder..."implies you think he was trying. Do you? ..... I should leave it really - it's done now .... but that one annoyed me more than others .... I'm not even sure why ..... there's so much non-trying in the game.... shouldn't be shocked by now
Report CROPSICK • January 2, 2022 7:28 PM GMT
Gave the horse too much to do and when he lost an iron he thought he wouldnt win, so he didnt give it any effort thinking 'dont want to finish too close wait for another day.'
Report Dr Crippen • January 2, 2022 7:50 PM GMT
He gave him a couple of slaps before the last but it couldn't pick up.

The horse looked very tired at the finish.
Report Dr Crippen • January 3, 2022 10:50 AM GMT
Another point worth mentioning is the hold up tactics employed by the jockey on Art Approval.

If you'll watch them jumping the second last, Art Approval looked about half a length behind the eventual winner.

But could not go with him.

And the favourite Pileon who had been racing prominent had already weakened away.
Five runners were pulled up in this gruelling test.

I'm sure punters don't want to see horse driven to exhaustion every time they run.
So cut the jockeys a bit of slack for using their judgement to gauge what a horse can or cannot do at the time of asking.
Report stewarty b • January 3, 2022 10:52 AM GMT
HNY to you Dr C.
Report Dr Crippen • January 3, 2022 11:10 AM GMT
Happy New Year Stewarty b.
And a prosperous one too.
Report MJK • January 3, 2022 11:28 AM GMT
Dr you seem to be deliberately missing the point, Brennan didn't want to get the horse involved and that's as clear as day. It's vert hard to trust a jockey like Brennan to use his 'judgement' when it's clear what he was up to. If the horse was struggling as you say why didn't he pull it up?
Report CROPSICK • January 3, 2022 11:30 AM GMT
Totally agree MJK
Report Dr Crippen • January 3, 2022 11:46 AM GMT
I didn't say he was struggling at that point, I said he couldn't go with the winner.

Just because a jockey isn't flailing away with his whip or dancing up and down on the horses back like a monkey up a stick, doesn't mean the horse isn't doing its best.

I believe most punters can't tell when a horse is giving its best, they rely on what the jockey is doing to give them a guide.

How many times do we see horses come off the bridle when appearing (purely from watching the motionless jockey) to be full of running, and then to find nothing?

A bad jockey will give a horse a bad time when it is doing its best, and get it unbalanced.

A better jockey will not.
Report Dr Crippen • January 3, 2022 11:49 AM GMT
There was nothing wrong with the ride, they were all being ridden sympathetically if you care to look closely at each one.

Even the winner.
Report MJK • January 3, 2022 12:24 PM GMT
The thing you criticise jockeys for is exactly the way Brennan rides ffs! That's the dead giveaway.
Report shoodacoodadidnt • January 3, 2022 12:50 PM GMT
Only one defender. Compare rider on 4th with Brennan - or try Specsavers :) ..... "sympathetically" .... best euphemism award for "non-trying"
Report Dr Crippen • January 3, 2022 12:58 PM GMT
That's the dead giveaway.

The dead giveaway is that now you have switched your attention to me, instead of the ride.

or try Specsavers

The same applies to the other poster who has fallen into the same trap.
Report shoodacoodadidnt • January 3, 2022 3:21 PM GMT
Laugh
Report shoodacoodadidnt • January 3, 2022 3:27 PM GMT
Barrakhov - I love Paddy Brennan! Best jockey around - pocket talking ;)
Report dr . atkins • January 3, 2022 3:31 PM GMT
nearly fell out the side door going to the line in the 3.20 race  embarrassing
Report MJK • January 3, 2022 3:36 PM GMT
Dr Crippen when I used the term dead giveaway I was referring to Brennan and his style of riding. Why on earth would you think I was referring to you?
Report paulo47 • January 3, 2022 3:43 PM GMT
Yep shoooda , shortened quite a bit when positioned midfield - couldnt quite decide whether he wanted to win or not haha .Love him too .
Report s.kenbo • January 3, 2022 3:54 PM GMT
Two winners out of three rides since that race.

Luckily some people have short memories!
Report Deptford • January 3, 2022 3:56 PM GMT
Totally irrelevant ^
Report s.kenbo • January 3, 2022 4:00 PM GMT
Saturday I’m slagging him offf. A couple of days later I’m backing him!

Very short memory, Deptford.
Report paulo47 • January 3, 2022 8:31 PM GMT
Saddle might have slipped .....
Report punchestown • January 3, 2022 8:55 PM GMT
Saddle might have slipped .....


It did.
Report pandora1963 • January 4, 2022 12:34 AM GMT
shameful jckey, one of these who does whatever he wants and gets away with it
Report MJK • February 13, 2022 11:18 AM GMT
Hopefully Paddy gives it some chance of winning today
Report koikeeper • February 13, 2022 12:25 PM GMT
Nothing dodgy about the ride, that's just him, very poor under pressure.
Watch his rides on Peking Rose (3.00 exeter)..
Looks like an amateur.
Report paulo47 • February 13, 2022 12:39 PM GMT
My favourite jockey ,his horse positioning is excellent when he is trying , his style gets better too ,  he is so easy to read .
Report koikeeper • February 13, 2022 3:09 PM GMT
Terrible ride yet again.
Report 11kv • February 13, 2022 3:29 PM GMT
Today is the day
Report 11kv • February 13, 2022 3:38 PM GMT
Maybe not
Report paulo47 • February 13, 2022 3:38 PM GMT
Ok boys you win today , he looked appalling .
Report MJK • February 13, 2022 3:41 PM GMT
From about halfway between the final two he's not riding out fully, happy to stay beside the eventual second. Horse clearly stays so that can't be made an excuse anymore. As with every horse he rides each obstacle seems to come as a surprise to Paddy.
Report koikeeper • February 13, 2022 3:46 PM GMT
He is riding out fully...thats him.
Report Storm Alert • February 13, 2022 4:01 PM GMT
I tend to back his charges when I fancy them in NHF races only, seems ok with them.
Report Dr Crippen • February 13, 2022 7:47 PM GMT
I tend to back his charges when I think he's riding the horse with the best chance of winning.

Good ride from Brennan today on Art approval.
Put it into the race with every chance, and would have been second but for hanging right.
That's not the jockey's fault. Just a sign that the horse might have had enough.
Report punchestown • February 13, 2022 8:12 PM GMT
Never the most orthodox style of riding but whatever it is he's doing is much more pronounced in the last few years.I think he's still a good rider but it's not the easiest of watches.
Report know all • February 13, 2022 10:50 PM GMT
plenty of tug on them reins if you watch closely enough
Report ENGLANDBARNES1 • February 14, 2022 7:20 AM GMT
I was watching the fav so was oblivious to this. I just watched it back and if his not trying, why strike three times?
But then it almost looked like he let his horse go right to bump into a rival, and then he seems very tender on the run in compared to normal where his arse is normally nearly touching his horses tail and his arms and legs are everywhere, but none of that today? Strange indeed.
Report Dr Crippen • February 14, 2022 11:41 AM GMT
The only thing I find strange are some of the comments here.
Report know all • February 14, 2022 11:59 AM GMT
all about opinions, this imo is a horse that possibly could have won his last race before this one and the riding both last 2 runs has been questionable, it either has a target or its one of those that promises and not delivers, im on the first suggestion but because its been highly covered up its hard to know for certain
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