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stayinin
24 Oct 21 22:59
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Report differentdrum October 25, 2021 12:45 AM BST
Never been much better than a journeyman jock. Hard to say they didn't at least give him a chance.

Are they going to replace him, or just pick the best of the dross on a daily basis?
Report the.mad.dog.man October 25, 2021 3:56 AM BST
should sack the person who buys the horses pay much to much for them
Report sparrow October 25, 2021 8:06 AM BST
De Sousa another one written off on here.
Report MJK October 25, 2021 8:41 AM BST
We're the horses in general that good?
Report chavman October 25, 2021 9:09 AM BST
It would be fair to say they haven’t achieved much relative to their outlay
Report pandora1963 October 25, 2021 9:24 AM BST
not many better than de sousa, ridiculous decision, bigger question is how moore keeps the coolmore job
Report acey deucy October 25, 2021 9:29 AM BST
Sacked for doing nothing wrong.
Report chavman October 25, 2021 9:42 AM BST
I’d say that’s been your excuse a few times acey Laugh
Report Pilsudski October 25, 2021 10:07 AM BST
Job for Hollie ?
Report mrcombustible October 25, 2021 10:21 AM BST
I think Hollie is better off mostly freelance though maybe it is a huge ££££ retainer financially?
Report mrcombustible October 25, 2021 10:23 AM BST
I would prefer to see Hollie wait for the Ryan Moore job
Report chavman October 25, 2021 10:24 AM BST
Colin Keane will get that
Report ballyregan October 25, 2021 10:45 AM BST
the thai people are notorious with loyalty de sousas pace clock has been not working correctly for a longtime it needs recalibrating I understand the decision he could bounce back when this happens
Report acey deucy October 25, 2021 10:52 AM BST
I’d say that’s been your excuse a few times acey....Never been sacked in my life chav....Walked out a few jobs though.Grin
Report mrcombustible October 25, 2021 11:22 AM BST
Colin Keane turned it down last year
Report chavman October 25, 2021 12:16 PM BST
Like your style acey Grin
Report acey deucy October 25, 2021 12:45 PM BST
Cool
Report Jumping-cuckoo-monk October 25, 2021 12:50 PM BST
I get the feeling that all the horses SDS rides know they've had a race when what's needed is a more nurturing style for costly purchases?
It's his style, won him a jocks championship on bread and butter horses?
Any ex-jocks on here have a view?
Report howard October 25, 2021 1:10 PM BST
sparrow25 Oct 21 07:06Joined: 20 Jul 02 | Topic/replies: 40,219 | Blogger: sparrow's blog
De Sousa another one written off on here. 

Grin
Yeah who are the top jocks if SDS , Murphy , Moore are no good ?
Report TheFlyingMuscovite October 25, 2021 1:10 PM BST
SDS simply not the same jockey he was a few years ago his win percentage has dropped alarmingly this season compared to his five year average. No idea why this is but hope this will be the catalyst to him reigniting his career.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 25, 2021 1:48 PM BST
for once im conkering with deucy.
Report RothmanMike October 25, 2021 1:50 PM BST
Pretty obvious to most rational thinkers that the job is too big for one jock,and though I like the
outfit , not a good idea to have a retained jockey who will need to visit 12 trainers to ride their horses.
Just let the trainers pick their preferred jocks.
De Sousa remains a top jock in my book.
Report wondersobright October 25, 2021 2:11 PM BST

Oct 25, 2021 -- 9:42AM, chavman wrote:


I’d say that’s been your excuse a few times acey


Laugh

Report acey deucy October 25, 2021 2:15 PM BST
Shocked
Report dr . atkins October 25, 2021 2:42 PM BST
they listened to the trainers who train for them
Report mmmalushka October 25, 2021 3:43 PM BST
Paid well over the odds for rubbish,how the horse traders must have licked their lips when they seen them coming.The bloodstock industry rotten to the core.
Report barstool October 25, 2021 4:12 PM BST
He is 40 now, been champion, made is money. I don't think he will be too concerned. Can wind it down a bit if he wants to.

Ryan Moore is 38 now. Will be rowing the same boat soon as well.

Time waits for none.
Report Mr Myxlplyx October 25, 2021 4:31 PM BST
Jamie Spencer waits forever Sad
Report Schraderbrau October 25, 2021 4:57 PM BST
It's been a shame in recent times if you fancied one at Ascot only to see SDS on board. I'm not going to bash him, he's been exemplary over the years, but his record there and his performances have been woeful.
Report Mr Myxlplyx October 25, 2021 4:59 PM BST
PROBERT next up
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 25, 2021 5:24 PM BST
nothing in the press regarding this.
Report Whippin Piccadilly October 25, 2021 5:40 PM BST
Probert must be on the shortlist. Gave Bangkok one of the rides of the season at York and he's based with Balding. As for SDS. He doesn't look as hungry as he did a few seasons ago. Backed one of his at Kempton a few weeks ago and the old SDS would have got it home no trouble but on this occasion it got beat a neck. I think he needs a different challenge and I'd love to see him go over and have a crack at the US.
Report gemini01 October 25, 2021 5:50 PM BST
MMMamluska and the mad dog make great points about what sort of clowns were buying these horses to begin with, them must be the only agents at the sales using guide dogs to bid for them, from what i have seen of king power horses, it aint SDS fault that they aint winning
Report werbie October 25, 2021 8:14 PM BST
Is there a position out there for Ryan Moore when he hangs up his boots?

I'm struggling a bit Plain
Report sageform October 25, 2021 8:23 PM BST
my theory for a while has been that SDS is a very hard rider and horses remember next time he rides them. David Probert by comparison is much more sympathetic so horses run for him.
Report Oldgit1 October 25, 2021 8:53 PM BST
barstool.
"He is 40 now, been champion, made is money. I don't think he will be too concerned. Can wind it down a bit if he wants to.

Ryan Moore is 38 now. Will be rowing the same boat soon as well.Time waits for none."

Apart from the greats like  Sir Gordon, Lester and possibly Frankie
Report TheAnorak October 25, 2021 9:09 PM BST
Just to highlight the skills of the bloodstock agents they use, Sackville Donald bought nine yearlings at the premier Book1 and Book2 sales in 2020 that have run as 2-y-olds this year for King Power.

There are nine of them, total cost 1.675M guineas - they've won 3 races from 29 starts and the five that have run often enough to have a handicap mark are rated beyween 71 and 87.

Yes it's a small sample, but you won't find any mention of Blackbird Power (350k) or Kitsune Power (235k) on the agents glossy website.
Report differentdrum October 25, 2021 9:25 PM BST
Sky Racing said they would use the 'best' available.
Report Whippin Piccadilly October 25, 2021 10:22 PM BST
Kitsune Power (235k) out of an unraced mare and a sire with E12.5K (E15K at the time) stud fee. Sackville & Donald  must be on Stuart Mcphee's Christmas card list!
Report lockup October 25, 2021 11:39 PM BST
King Power definitely need new bloodstock agents looks like they tried to buy anything with a fancy tag stuck on it Andrew Balding had a great year but King Power didn't Oisin Murphy and Probert had great seasons on his horses but the King Power ones ran poorly not SDS fault because all that glistens isn't gold.
Report sageform October 26, 2021 8:35 AM BST
75 horses have run this season for King Power of which 23 have an RPR above 100. Not a bad percentage. Cheveley Park had 9 rated above 100 from 53 runners.
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