Elliot suspension ends 9th Sept...............

Being devils advocate, some would say he has served his time and should be allowed to carry on ....

Yet the Chit-Chat Forum remains chained and bereft in the depths of the dungeon.

... Oh, the humanity

Jump trainers used to have summer off anyway.

Hehehe

In bar bados

how would he foolish to set foot on a british racecourse again?

I hope he hasn't been comfort eating.

Most racegoers wont give a F*** and rightly so

Welcome back Gordon , should never have been banned in the first place.

1.01s hes at cheltenham

What a ridiculous stupid statement skip.Gordon has served his punishment and as far as many including myself will welcome Gordon back with open arms on any racecourse world wide.Thats what life is all about.

The English general media would absolutely crucify him pre Cheltenham and  Aintree....a lot of ill feeling for him still remains..

The reason he will be hunted and and hounded by certain people is simply this, he's far too good a trainer and that kills them....

will itv snub him ?

I don't think the anti animal abuse brigade care about how good Elliot is Workrider

I'm not talking about those loonies , I'm talking about the British trainers mate...

He should have been warned off.

For the vast majority of the general public it'll be a case of Gordon who ? in other words couldn't give a damn about such triviality.

The country far more concerned about the whereabouts of Colin Pitchfork than any extremely mild offence committed by a horse racing trainer.


We move on   

punters only interested in backing winners

So answer me this Floorman , whats worse sitting on a dead horse or sticking a needle into one as Chemical was found guilty of.

Don't understand your question workrider.

HRI have surely had a word with him.

Would not surprise me to see a spokesman for the yard or assistant doing the press/media stuff for a while.

Hopefully he has learned from his mistake and that is that.

i suspect there will be a huge improvement in the runners so.

Floorman being a complete arrogant, ignorant fool.
workrider your question is easy to understand and completely valid .

Who users the needle in "Irish" racing ?
Names plzzzzzzz

From the start, he has been in the background pulling the strings for the puppet running the stable in name only.

The O'Leary brothers and Co. will continue to support him as they have done so since his hasty ban was implemented.

The authorities in Ireland & UK had no choice to placate the uproar that was orchestrated to do the most damage just before the Cheltenham showpiece.

Gordon, now wiser, in the future will distance himself from those unscrupulous people who were attracted to him by his rapid success and being the determined character he is he will strive to do even better from now on ... Willie Mullins may not have it all his own way in 2022.

what he done is wrapping chips now..

O'Leary suggests often to sack certain sections of the public sector like bus drivers / train drivers and then rallies around someone like Elliott. Says a lot!

Dread to think what shape he’s in…all those months sitting on his sofa.

Sep 2, 2021 -- 3:30PM, skiptoomaloumacari wrote:

The English general media would absolutely crucify him pre Cheltenham and

The same English media who give racing cheats spots on their racing programmes and in their print and online media?

I still will find very hard want any of his horses to win......anyone who displays the callousness displayed in that photo has no place in our sport......owners who stay with him should be ashamed of themselves...

Have you never cheered a Henderson horse home Skip ?

Or a Micky Quinn horse ?

Sitting on a dead horse who has given his all, gloating like a fat pig is worse than giving injections to horses, imo

And letting someone photo you as if you are a hero, is worse, imo

have people nothing better to do with there lives ?

than post non sequiteurs on fora?
just kidding jim, chatting

the man made a mistake yes a big mistake we all know that especially himself ,i for one look forward to him returning both in ireland and the uk.

all the opinions here are totally irrelevant
Elliot will be back next week training winners on racecourses in ireland and the UK and nowt anyone can do about it

Yeah, I don't think anyone on here thinks they have the clout to stop fatman from hoisting his carcass around his stable/racecourses

exclusive interview in the post monday with gordon.

youre right jumpman you dont have the clout..

Hopefully he'll be reinstated as a betfair ambassador
What's the betting?
10 doughnuts to a porkpie he gets his job back?

its 1.01 you can do fook all about it

I've got a gun though knoxy

in your pants?

or you just happy to be here?

I work in the abattoir Elliott sends his toss outs.
Guns provided

off today,yeah?

On my phone in between headshots posting to the unwashed on 'ere
Since Denise took over I aint been so busy. Bless her.

Hope he gets Booed all the way to the winners enclosure,especially at Chelt

I would say that was a certainty.............

Welcome back Gordon. All is forgiven. The Irish BHA committed a more abhorrent behaviour for their lack of governance on whereabouts of racehorses post their racing careers. You only sat on one "dead" horse; they send live horses to the abattoir!

No surprise the head honchos have resigned at the same time. Good riddance!

jimnast03 Sep 21 11:19Joined: 03 Jan 01 |
the man made a mistake yes a big mistake we all know that especially himself ,i for one look forward to him returning both in ireland and the uk.


I agree 100% with jimnast.

He may even make an appearance at his beloved Perth for the 2 day end of season finale.

Time will hopefully show a change in Gordon’s demeanour.He knows he messed up, and I guess he will have
turned over in his mind what he should do going forward.
He knows he cannot change the past, but my guess is he will keep a low profile and hope the road back to being
accepted again is not too rocky.
All he can do is set a better example and steer clear of any controversy.
He has a tough job changing peoples view of him, so concentrate on doing his job well, and hope time heals.

I could not believe my eyes when i saw that photo but most of us have done something we regret...I certainly have.

Tbh I’m losing hope about my betting ticket for him to win spoty this year.

Just like Henderson, served his time mostly at the most convenient time of the year, so no reason for him not to be back. Hopefully wiser and with tougher rules on who can have mobiles switched on in his yard

Fro0m a punting pov not missed him at all.

I'll listen and trust him more than Hendo any day. At least his hotpots turn up for a named principal meeting unlike Hendo despite waxing lyrical of their well-being and work.

Hendo is a bookie's man esp to his sponsor an entity known for gubbing punters; Hendo is one trainer I'll not miss if he calls it a day tomorrow.

quite right impossible.

Might have been wise to keep his face of the front Cover of the Racing Post today.

As to the picture on page 5.

Words fail me.

I have to say that I was disappointed to see that double page spread in the post today. Especially the line about someone out to get him with that photo

Simple solution to that one Gordon. Just don't ride a dead horse for a supposedly funny picture

This whole episode is a gift for the masses who want to stop our great sport. Thank you Gordon for that.


Don't worry though, you will soon be back amongst the winners!

rp have had a mare

Charles Byrne deserves a mention on this thread if Henderson/Quinn do
Drugs used to sedate a horse are despicable and dangerous to horse/jock alike
That feral degenerate Mahon I'm surprised is still walking around tbh

jcm did you know mahon got his banned shortened by irish racing ?

Yes Bally, I heard about it yesterday on sky's The Debate
Haven't read up on it cuz it'll just wind me up!

personally i think he would exceptionally foolish to set foot a Britis%h racecourse again ......


Why?

Gordon guilty of gross disrespect by sitting on a dead animal, but get a grip, he didn't cause the horse's death. So much crap on here that is totally over the top! He has paid and continues to pay a huge price for this moment of madness that has been seized upon by a vengeful one-time friend in an attempt to crucify him. Elliot's a fat lad and possibly a tad lazy and answered a mobile call and regrettably sat down to do so on the nearest available perch. Agreed, it was shocking to look at, but the real villain of this tragedy is the malicious scumbag who published the photo. Gordon is contrite, mortified, to suggest that he would be unwise to return to British racecourse is, frankly, ridiculous!

Blame the bloke who took the picture

Now THAT is ridiculous

How about blaming them both equally?

Lots on here think this is non story. It is a HUGE  story cos at the very core of our great sport is the love and utmost care of the very animals who provide us with such joy, no matter their ability

Okay I am so so excited about baaeed but equally love that complete rogue youholidayisover

imo what the whole scenario shows is some trainers dont really care about horses they are just tools for success

Of course also what we must not lose over this is the great shared friendship enjoyed through racing between brits and Irish. It cuts through so many of the other issues

Have any of you viewed this, from the Show Jumping in USA? Utterly disgraceful...worse than what GE did imo.



https://www.peta.org/blog/kevin-lemke-competitive-jumper-filmed-beating-horse-show-ring/

Blame the BLOKE who took the picture

Now THAT is ridiculous

"BLOKE", Mr Jumping Cuckoo?? Now, who's being ridiculous?

During the Tokyo Olympics just finished, Germany's modern pentathlon coach Kim Raisner was been thrown out of the Tokyo Olympics after punching a horse.

Raisner punched a horse during competition as German athlete Annika Schleu struggled to control it.



Disgusting, they should have been barred for life never mind thrown out. How come this didnt get any major publicity by the BBC and Sky and the media in general??

I don't know who took the pick Ihal.
How far does this culpability stretch?
If I take a pic of an Elliot horse winning a race do I take some credit in its achievement?
There is only 1 person to blame here.
It's the fat man, no-one else, imo

We are  going over old ground and it's been done to death
I'm gunna bow out
No offence Ihal
Be lucky

Jumping. Don't call him a fat man please. I am a fat bar steward but respect animals

okay fat c**t then
I assume you are not one of those Celtic

Get over it. I understand a very serious misjudgement on his part. Let's move on. The horse was dead...any anger ought to be directed at the Irish BHA for turning a blind eye to former Irish racehorses sent to UK abattoirs to be shot for gain.

How do you define one or the other?

Its time people move on.Everyone of us have made mistakes or done things we regret.The person who never made a mistake has never made anything.

He has a few entered in on Tuesday. While Cheveley Park may have stopped using him someone else has obviously stepped up judging by the purchases he has been making at various sales recently.

Sep 6, 2021 -- 5:31PM, ballyregan wrote:

imo what the whole scenario shows is some trainers dont really care about horses they are just tools for success

i cant believe that some people would need to see the photo to understand this?
its business

gordon interview with racing tv aired on monday night.

OP 's opening comments and subsequent posts, are utterly ridiculous.

I agree with Facts.

i just think his presence could (probably would) cause serious damage to racing ..........he should just skulk off , but then again he obviously has no shame.....

Crikey the forum's gone nuts and obviously full to the brim with saints.

What a good job these posters weren't around for both of Cecil's misdemeanours of drink driving and telling lies to the police.

He may never have been revered on here the way he was.

Come on guys move on , it's become tedious.

I agree 100% with Hayden.

interview with gordon coming up at 8-30 tonight on rtv.

Oh Purple Reign his first runner in the 2.30 tomorrow, won going away last time, up 7 and a wide draw wont help his cause for a first time back winner.

There's absolutely no comparison between Sir Cecil and Elliot. however, i do agree it's time to move on.

For a second I was elated. I thought Hendo has retired (not Altior).

there will never be another trainer as loved by punters and public as Sir Henry


to mention his name even on this thread is an offence punishable by death , or worse

but he did do wrong - wot fatty did was crass  but it wasnt the end of the world in real terms

in otha news roy chubby brown has been banned from anutha town for puttting on his show at 76 yrs of age  ffs - they did the same wiv the Sex Pistols back in 76/77 where did that get the written press - as people say in old days it wuda been tomorras fish n chips wrappings but for all that horrible stuff they put in the papers

nah mate , big diff

what Sir Henry did was human , we all make mistakes and sink a little at times

what elliot did was inhuman

tho he paid his price an will now get opp to be a better person which he deserves

toon leeds friday man , be a good un

easy win for Leeds we are abysmal - cracks aint gona be painted ova this season tho Leeds having 2nd season syndrome as well

Wot Elliott did wasnt gr8 and in bad taste he also deserves anutha chance - wot Panorama tried to do to him wasnt the best but hey ho its all about opinions - fatty was stupid to let that situation arise but im happy enuf to forgive n forget

not seen them so far but leeds havnt fired yet , be a hard fought match , will watch card markets as match where both see points possible could be hard fought

Maybe Sneezy wasnt that bad after all........