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13 Aug 21
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Cant retreat quick enough unless we are not seeing the full picture. !!
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.... " Havent got the political will "
  Funny name for Baws. |
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ISLAMABAD (AP) — The U.S. and NATO have promised to pay $4 billion a year until 2024 to finance Afghanistan’s military and security forces, which are struggling to contain an advancing Taliban. Already, the U.S. has spent nearly $89 billion over the past 20 years to build, equip and train Afghan forces.
Cheaper to have got a fleet of Uber Taxis.! |
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Where there is conflict, rich people are getting richer whilst ordinary people are losing their sons, daughters, husbands and mothers.
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This is a war you can never win. The British Empire was defeated in Afghanistan in the 1860 s, the Russians in the 70s ,
The USA and Nato in the last few years , if you don't learn from history you are doomed to repeat it. |
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had one of the worst days of my life about 15 years ago a girl i worked with at corals in Bishop Auckland rang me in a very bad way to tell me her husband had been blown up in Afghan, i can still remember the call and will do till the day i die,
what made it even worse she gave birth only a few weeks later. Lee Brownson RIP. |
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Sleep well Tony Blair.
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And all the other politicians in both the main parties who supported that same war, brians. Only one political party opposed it as their party policy.
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Its up to all the politicians in the west to point the finger at the countries that finance these truly evil people. Not one politician that I have listened to has had the courage to do this.Neither Trump,Biden,Johnson,or Merkel have ever mentioned that Putin and Pakistan's numero uno,Imran Khan are financing the taliban. They are frightened of upsetting Pugin,and are all frankly gutless.
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Putin not pugin.Sorry my spellchecker is dislegsic.
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Doesn't look good does it.
So what's the answer? I don't there is one. It's just the way things are out there. But what about the bigger picture?  Doomed! We're all doomed I say. And I'm not joking here. |
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Thanks for your contribution ericster aka private Frazier,aka John Lawrence.(a great actor)
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Oh no the spellchecker strikes again.should read John Lawrie
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No worries bryan.
Was wanting to post that I meant to say ... "I don't THINK there's one " .... but never mind. Seriously though bryan: With covid, Global warming, The potential for global "warring", ultimately, because of what's going on in Afghanistan, and we pretend it's not happening. Heads in sand, lemmings and cliff comes to mind. |
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You are right ericster there probably isn't an answer. But at the end of the day if the politicians in the democratic west fail to call out a totalitarian state like Russia for financing this abhorrent regime they have failed the people they represent.
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First I've heard that Russia are financing the taliban.
Pakistan needs to be brought to book-were not for them,there wouldn't be a problem today. They've armed,fiananced and given sanctuary to the taliban. Only a few days ago an Afghan minister accused them again of it. The US are fully aware this has been going on,but had hoped by selling F16's etc and billions in aid they'd buy off Pakistan. Sadly this hasn't worked,and poor people of Afghanistan are paying the price |
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Well the 20 years spent training up an Afghan Army with billions of dollars thrown @ it and countless/pointless lives lost hasnt worked out to well.
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Mrspock,you have made my point,not many people are aware of the Russian connection because the politicians and news media are frett,(as Mrs Thatcher would say),of Putin. Irrespective of your political standpoint Mrs Thatcher would not have been frightened of calling out the Russian bully.I got my imfo.from the New York Times,a paper that is Group one class compared to the handicappers we have in this country.Sadly I am not up on how to transfer that particular piece of newsprint onto this post.I was very surprised how cheap it was to buy online,way,way cheaper I would imagine than an american would pay.
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No different to when the US used to fund & arm the Mujahedeen v the USSR when they were in Afghanistan.
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They caved in so quick, you'd think they had been trained by the French.
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You cant win a war fighting against ghosts.just let them get on with it.
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Mr Management- certainly not trained by the French. If they had been, not only would they have caved in quickly, but there'd be a fully fledged Michelin 3 Star restaurant in Kabul with a Maitre D waiting to welcome & seat the Taliban leader & his troops!
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It just goes to show the old adage; you can’t polish a turd.
Any attempt at encouraging civilisation in that 5hitty backwater was doomed to fail when they are underpinned by religion from the dark ages. It’s like trying to attach a foreign limb, gets rejected as soon as the drugs are withdrawn. Everything from the economy to school teacher’s wages is subsidised by the West, might as well stop that now because all it’s doing is helping the Taliban. I’d nuke em from afar once a year to keep em honest. |
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Was the name changed because we funded the Mujahadeen and so it was embarrassing to start fighting them against our own weapons, so we pretended they were Taliban and a much different group. Bit like prostitutes are now sex workers and binmen are council operatives. Well not much like, but you get my drift.
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Not exactly. The Taliban seem to have been formed to fight the Mujadeen because they weren't stict enough Islamists. At the time though the Mujadeen were seen in the west as fanatics and WSERE funded by the Americans to fight the Russian-backed government. No doubt a lot of American armaments fell into the hands of the Taliban then and no doubt are doing now.
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3rd world countries full of religious fanatics will never change.
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Afghanistan’s military and security forces, which are struggling to contain an advancing Taliban therefore becomes a taliban themself as they all looks the same what a waste of funding
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With regard to religious fanatics & the UK, to quote the award winning film Poltergeist-"They're here!"
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Not only are they"here" Slicer but we are kowtowing to them.
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10,000 have sailed in on rubber boats this years and some are being housed in 4 star hotels. The first text they send after arriving is to tell others it is the promised land and buy a dinghy asap!
And we have tens of thousands living rough in all our cities. The world has gone fckin mad. |
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Yep.
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Always seems to go over the heads of some people that it's not religion that's the problem but those who twist it to suit themselves
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Its the nature of a theocracy that uses the unknown as a weapon full stop.
The 'good' imans are no less absurd in their claims than the 'bad' ones. |
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All muslims believe the moon split in two one evening and then rejoined...just because.
And that stars are lamps that will fall to earth. |
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Send in Rambo and Kingsman. They did extremely well in ridding undesirables anywhere.
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Not forgetting Colonel Trautman, impossible. They ere there in 1988 and its still hell on earth!
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(Ex) President Ghani thinks the olympics is still on….his exit and fall of government just broke the 100m sprint record. They almost beat the Americans out of their own country. I don’t think any of them can complain now they will get lynched, they had the chance to govern their own affairs and completely blew it. A capitulation that is an utter insult to all those who attempted to help that dump of a country. |
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I think it’s all now pretty clear who have been stealing wages and hiding behind the efforts of foreigners.
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