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9.4 billion reasons https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7886/
We got our Covid19 jabs much quicker than if we had stayed in the EU.
So at least we are still alive (which might not have been the case if we had remained) in.
So at least we are still alive (which might not have been the case if we had remained) in.
(which might not have been the case if we had remained)
Why is that then?
Why is that then?
you should never argue with a remainer, it's like trying to teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.
It's not a fair question as the whole thing has been exacerbated by Covid.. nobody saw that coming..
Besides the vaccine procurement, a major Boris Johnson success story - one of the few as he directly appointed Kate Bingham - is the blatant reveal of how the E.U operates.. whilst always suspected I think most people were prepared to turn a blind eye for a quiet life... these past few years we've seen just how they really are when anyone dares go against them.. Not a pretty sight but if anyone is still to be enlightened, then you must be encased in a burka..
..Some of the problems seem insurmountable, Nationalism and division are killer concepts, and I hate both with a passion, but as a former arch remainer I'd never want to vote for the EU again, at least not with the current regime in place..
Besides the vaccine procurement, a major Boris Johnson success story - one of the few as he directly appointed Kate Bingham - is the blatant reveal of how the E.U operates.. whilst always suspected I think most people were prepared to turn a blind eye for a quiet life... these past few years we've seen just how they really are when anyone dares go against them.. Not a pretty sight but if anyone is still to be enlightened, then you must be encased in a burka..
..Some of the problems seem insurmountable, Nationalism and division are killer concepts, and I hate both with a passion, but as a former arch remainer I'd never want to vote for the EU again, at least not with the current regime in place..
dear o dear remoaners still going on about brexit lol ....get over it ..it aint gonna be reversed ..
I would put the question the other way round:
Why has there not been a run on the currency, mass unemployment, sky high inflation, stock market crash like it was supposed to be?
Why has there not been a run on the currency, mass unemployment, sky high inflation, stock market crash like it was supposed to be?
If we'd still been in the EU we wouldn't have had to sign up to their vaccine programme
Wages in construction have gone up 30%,that’s why every builder in the country voted leave.
That will bring them back to level then from the 30% they dropped last year chav
Site tradespeople asked to cut pay rates by up to 30%
Grant Prior1 year ago
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Tradespeople are being asked to cut their pay rates by up to 30% as sites continue returning to work.
Demand for labour dropped by up to 70% last month as the lockdown hit, according to the largest payer of subcontractors in the UK construction industry.
And Hudson Contract said building firms are asking tradespeople to cut their rates by 10-30% cent to share the costs of reduced output as sites restart.
Ian Anfield, managing director, said: “The number of people we paid dropped by up to 70% in the space of three weeks last month.
“The number is steadily rising again as more sites reopen with many clients telling us they are going back to work on Monday, May 11.
“Construction output will be lower and costs will be higher as firms figure out ways for people to work safely on site. This is why they are asking tradespeople to cut their rates.”
Anfield added that a number of clients are reporting strong demand to price new projects as a result of pent-up demand.
Hudson Contract’s latest figures show earnings for subcontractors fell by an average of 18.2% in April as the lockdown shut building sites across the UK.
Analysis of payroll data for more than 2,200 construction companies shows a weekly average of £734 for freelancers in April, down from £897 in March, and the lowest level since January 2015.
The worst hit areas were Yorkshire and the Humber (-32.1%), the South West (-26.9%) and Wales (-25.2%).
Bricklaying gangs hit by double pay cut whammy
Bricklaying price gangs fear the latest attempt to cut pay rates will compound losses caused by social distancing on site.
One bricklayer based in Kent told the Enquirer: “We have recently returned to work as a gang with a ratio of 2:1 (two brick layers and one hod carrier) doing price work.
“We are already experiencing a pay cut due to the 2 metre social distancing rule that has been adopted on our site.
“As a small gang, this is easy to adhere to but doesn’t come without its financial implications because our output is down by around 25%.
“Every time our spot boards need reloading with muck, we have to stand clear of our hod carrier, the same goes for bricks.
“Usually, we would continue working whilst the hod carrier relentlessly struggles to keep us going and they are forced to work around us.
“Now however, we are working around him. This costs us a lot of time compared to conventionally working and we have noticed it financially.
“Thankful as we are to be back at work, we have already taken a very large pay cut of somewhere in the region of £200‐£250 a week each as bricklayers.
“If our rates get dropped on top of that we will find that our money wouldn’t be any different to what it was in the financial crisis of 2008. Working for approximately £100‐£120 a day – half of what we’re earning now.
“Tradespeople and subcontractors alike need to stand united on this front and not allow the big boys to grind down the small companies and individuals that are essential to them, especially in trades that already have a very apparent skill shortage.”
Site tradespeople asked to cut pay rates by up to 30%
Grant Prior1 year ago
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Tradespeople are being asked to cut their pay rates by up to 30% as sites continue returning to work.
Demand for labour dropped by up to 70% last month as the lockdown hit, according to the largest payer of subcontractors in the UK construction industry.
And Hudson Contract said building firms are asking tradespeople to cut their rates by 10-30% cent to share the costs of reduced output as sites restart.
Ian Anfield, managing director, said: “The number of people we paid dropped by up to 70% in the space of three weeks last month.
“The number is steadily rising again as more sites reopen with many clients telling us they are going back to work on Monday, May 11.
“Construction output will be lower and costs will be higher as firms figure out ways for people to work safely on site. This is why they are asking tradespeople to cut their rates.”
Anfield added that a number of clients are reporting strong demand to price new projects as a result of pent-up demand.
Hudson Contract’s latest figures show earnings for subcontractors fell by an average of 18.2% in April as the lockdown shut building sites across the UK.
Analysis of payroll data for more than 2,200 construction companies shows a weekly average of £734 for freelancers in April, down from £897 in March, and the lowest level since January 2015.
The worst hit areas were Yorkshire and the Humber (-32.1%), the South West (-26.9%) and Wales (-25.2%).
Bricklaying gangs hit by double pay cut whammy
Bricklaying price gangs fear the latest attempt to cut pay rates will compound losses caused by social distancing on site.
One bricklayer based in Kent told the Enquirer: “We have recently returned to work as a gang with a ratio of 2:1 (two brick layers and one hod carrier) doing price work.
“We are already experiencing a pay cut due to the 2 metre social distancing rule that has been adopted on our site.
“As a small gang, this is easy to adhere to but doesn’t come without its financial implications because our output is down by around 25%.
“Every time our spot boards need reloading with muck, we have to stand clear of our hod carrier, the same goes for bricks.
“Usually, we would continue working whilst the hod carrier relentlessly struggles to keep us going and they are forced to work around us.
“Now however, we are working around him. This costs us a lot of time compared to conventionally working and we have noticed it financially.
“Thankful as we are to be back at work, we have already taken a very large pay cut of somewhere in the region of £200‐£250 a week each as bricklayers.
“If our rates get dropped on top of that we will find that our money wouldn’t be any different to what it was in the financial crisis of 2008. Working for approximately £100‐£120 a day – half of what we’re earning now.
“Tradespeople and subcontractors alike need to stand united on this front and not allow the big boys to grind down the small companies and individuals that are essential to them, especially in trades that already have a very apparent skill shortage.”
5.6 million EU nationals chose to stay in the UK. If things are so bad ,by your question,why didn't they go back?
The EU have been playing petty games at the borders eg pulling up drivers because their sandwiches don't conform to EU regulations.
Large numbers of people in the EU have died or fallen seriously ill because EU advised against the Astra Zeneca shot,because it comes from the Uk,even tho it's at cost price- their incompetence and political chicanery is breathtaking
The EU have been playing petty games at the borders eg pulling up drivers because their sandwiches don't conform to EU regulations.
Large numbers of people in the EU have died or fallen seriously ill because EU advised against the Astra Zeneca shot,because it comes from the Uk,even tho it's at cost price- their incompetence and political chicanery is breathtaking
Nothings changed , except we have independence. Something Nicola says is the best thing ever. Enjoy it.
Oh, and not every Tom Dick and Harry can walk in and claim benefits at our expense, and put pressure on our nhs, education system , traffic and natural resources.
Oh, and not every Tom Dick and Harry can walk in and claim benefits at our expense, and put pressure on our nhs, education system , traffic and natural resources.
Brians,
you sound like Jacquie Smith on vine on five yesterday.
Most of us voted leave to take back control of our borders and reduce immigration. so on that key metric Boris has failed miserably with his useless henchwoman patel. Then Boris is a left wing remainer anyway. He parasiticly climbed on Mr Farage's bandwagon for personal gain. And with that aim he has catagoricly won.
a few pence on roaming charges with Vodafone for all those saddos that go on holiday abroad to stare at their phones 27/7 is irrelevant.
you sound like Jacquie Smith on vine on five yesterday.
Most of us voted leave to take back control of our borders and reduce immigration. so on that key metric Boris has failed miserably with his useless henchwoman patel. Then Boris is a left wing remainer anyway. He parasiticly climbed on Mr Farage's bandwagon for personal gain. And with that aim he has catagoricly won.
a few pence on roaming charges with Vodafone for all those saddos that go on holiday abroad to stare at their phones 27/7 is irrelevant.
We got our Covid19 jabs much quicker than if we had stayed in the EU.
Marksman - we also got the highest Covid death rate by far in Europe!
Marksman - we also got the highest Covid death rate by far in Europe!
Not true. Have a look at deaths per millions of population. Try checking your facts.
stare at their phones 27/7
You've nailed it there, Celtic. Remoaners spend more time on their phones than there are hours in the day! No wonder they have no idea whats going on in the real world (the one that exists outside of twitter).
You've nailed it there, Celtic. Remoaners spend more time on their phones than there are hours in the day! No wonder they have no idea whats going on in the real world (the one that exists outside of twitter).
Brains ??
There are none so blind as those who will not see
As of August 10 2021 the death toll from Covid19 is
UK- 130,320
Italy - 128,220
France - 112,221
Germany - 92,281
I blame Boris for initially adopting the Trump "it's all a hoax" approach to dealing with the pandemic! Pity for the western world that two New York-born clowns, Trump and Johnson, were allowed to unleash the apocalypse on the US and UK by rubbishing scientific advice!
There are none so blind as those who will not see
As of August 10 2021 the death toll from Covid19 is
UK- 130,320
Italy - 128,220
France - 112,221
Germany - 92,281
I blame Boris for initially adopting the Trump "it's all a hoax" approach to dealing with the pandemic! Pity for the western world that two New York-born clowns, Trump and Johnson, were allowed to unleash the apocalypse on the US and UK by rubbishing scientific advice!
women have now been allowed to wear trousers in the members enclosure at henley royal regatta something not allowed pre brexit.
Jimnast
women have now been allowed to wear trousers in the members enclosure at henley royal regatta something not allowed pre brexit.
I warned Priti this would happen, typical woman, she didn't listen!
women have now been allowed to wear trousers in the members enclosure at henley royal regatta something not allowed pre brexit.
I warned Priti this would happen, typical woman, she didn't listen!
Marksman 11 Aug 21 14:43
Remoaners spend more time on their phones than there are hours in the day! No wonder they have no idea whats going on in the real world
bizarre comment...phone use decided by Brexit vote apparently
Remoaners spend more time on their phones than there are hours in the day! No wonder they have no idea whats going on in the real world
bizarre comment...phone use decided by Brexit vote apparently
Brexit voters have only just discovered cordless phones. 
We got our Covid19 jabs much quicker than if we had stayed in the EU.
So at least we are still alive (which might not have been the case if we had remained) in.
The Government is right to claim that it did this outside of, and faster than, the collective purchasing and distribution system set up by the European Union. But it has been disingenuous in claiming that we could do this because of Brexit. Both the purchasing and authorising the use of the vaccines was done while the UK was still effectively a member of the EU and the European Medicines Agency. Any other EU country could have done the same – they just chose not to.
Kate Bingham, who was appointed to oversee the mass immunisation programme last May, has received praise for the success of the initial purchasing project. But it really wasn’t that hard. With an open cheque-book from the Treasury, Bingham and her team simply placed massive bets on the half-dozen or so most likely candidate vaccines. Orders for vast amounts of vaccines were placed and partially paid for – far more than the country could use if they all proved viable (which most of them did).
So at least we are still alive (which might not have been the case if we had remained) in.
The Government is right to claim that it did this outside of, and faster than, the collective purchasing and distribution system set up by the European Union. But it has been disingenuous in claiming that we could do this because of Brexit. Both the purchasing and authorising the use of the vaccines was done while the UK was still effectively a member of the EU and the European Medicines Agency. Any other EU country could have done the same – they just chose not to.
Kate Bingham, who was appointed to oversee the mass immunisation programme last May, has received praise for the success of the initial purchasing project. But it really wasn’t that hard. With an open cheque-book from the Treasury, Bingham and her team simply placed massive bets on the half-dozen or so most likely candidate vaccines. Orders for vast amounts of vaccines were placed and partially paid for – far more than the country could use if they all proved viable (which most of them did).
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