why dont they just put security in the racecourse loos

you have to pay for extra police presence I think thats why drug taking and fighting is rife is racecourses

I went to The Den a few years ago and there were sniffer dogs in the bars and outside the ground. It would be easy enough to organise at racecourses and not at any great expense I wouldn't have thought.

Article in tomorrows post ................RCA seem to be asking racegoers to behave themselves..............a pointless excercise if you ask me..

Never mind the racecourse. Every town and city in this country stinks of ******* hash. Hate the smell of the stuff.

Take the drugs away and the pubs clubs  and racecorses would all close.
sad as it is

the huge majority dont go for racing they go to get coked up drunk have a fight or ogle girls the rca are alienating there customers

Who do you think they will get Security wise paying £10 an hour that will be able to do the job?
Just look at Wembley for the Euro Final.
Even had Stewards selling Uniforms as a way of getting in.
You would have to get the army in to do it properly,the police are a total fckin waste of time.
THE COUNTRY IS WELL AND TRULY FCKED.
Glad I wont be here in 2 generations time.
3RD World countries will be looking down at us over here.
London is already there.

Babylon is burning.

Sniffer dogs @ Haydock, they only charge a bone & a rubber ball for afters.

paris is spot on
racing needs their money if they stop their drugs they,ll go elsewhere

big, big week for york and uk racing generally ebor week. last few months suggests a real problem with the young, drugs, etc .....york normally gets it just about ok with security and policing but its becoming harder for sure . i think older racegoers getting fed up with the situation.racecourses as daylight nightclubs ... problem for racing is i saw lots of young kids watching a  sport with a good  few drinking nearby , bit of good natured shouting . plenty of replica tops ,  atmosphere seemed great  ... alas , it was the cricket 100 . ...

been plenty sniffer dogs at the toon for years now for big meets at least

Yes, @windsor knot, the cricket hundreds thing seems to have been unexpectedly (to this old git) popular.

What's the point in catching druggies? Even when the police can be bothered to catch one or two the magistrates let them off with a slapped wrist.

The country is becoming increasingly lawless as the police focus on anything except regular crime.

There's no way back under the present political climate.

I will be at York next week. Aintree GN meeting the only big day I attend.
Will not go near the bars hence avoiding the mayhem.
Luckily the 'jolly boys' dont want to  see a horse in the flesh.

Seems bizarre this obsession with drugs (presumably Coke, MDMA, speed, weed?).

Alcohol causes many more deaths and more violence than all of those put together and racecourses actively
promote it.

If you go to a big meeting there will be thousands of boozed up youngsters with
minimal interest in the sport - so why would you go?

Go to a midweek meeting, enjoy a couple of pints, a cheeky line and a relaxing smoke on the way home - perfect.

Shirley the problem with the drug sniffer dogs is that if one of them somehow got into the jockeys changing room - they would have to abandon the meeting!

Actually got stopped by a drug "sniffer" dog going into the Cheltenham Festival last year................I was MOST indignant!!!!!!

theres no comparison with drugs and alcohol, least of all the specious deaths argument. for a start, many more drink than take drugs. having a glass of something you enjoy, from selecting what you like, smelling the flavour, comparing your opinion with friends and enjoying a few drinks together is the spice of life, or at least it is in civilised countries. and i dont mean just wine either. ive been in a town square in gemnay and every one of them is laggo. no hint of bovver.

drugs on the other hand are anti-social and not pleasurable to ingest. sniffing harpic in the bog is not a joyful, shared experience. and people after a 'cheeky line' are tedious and solipsistic. they dont listen and ramble incoherently and endlessly. add to that the gurning and runny nose, an unedifying spectacle. a relaxing smoke is more dangerous than **** and similarly tiresome.

^blimey. sant say 'phags'

having a glass of something you enjoy, from selecting what you like, smelling the flavour, comparing your opinion with friends and enjoying a few drinks together is the spice of life,

Aye, you might have a point if this was the case. Unfortunately for the majority who drink it isn't. Most that go out and drink alcohol end up drunk
and talking utter shyte just like those who have had a line too many. Alcohol is just as bad imo just those that drink think they have some sort
of moral high ground over others that dabble in weed/coke etc because one is legal and one isnt. Wasnt that long ago both were illegal and wont be that
long in the future to when both are legal

the large majority have a drink with no bother. like everyone i know.and other countries dont have a problem. a drink is part of their daily life and its celebrated as such in france, italy germnay etc. its a cultural problem, of you can call it that.

but you accept that people on the gear talk utter sh1te and gurn and their nose falls out. good. and i aint being moralistic. had plenty of it meself, just glad i stopped.

Go into any pub in any uk city centre after 10pm and most in them aren't comparing tasting notes over a fine wine or whisky.

Agree about those on gear talking shyte as well. Most of them don't cause any bother though apart from the odd idiot. Hardly ever see anyone smoking weed
causing any bother whatsoever, pissed up on the drink though outside the pubs and clubs, that's a different story. Maybe a line would do them good to sober
them up. Not condoning either btw just from personal experiences it is the drunks that cause most problems not the weekend druggies on charlie or stoners

a lot more people are having a drink. as i said, its a problem other countries seem to have a lot less of. whys that? some people who have a drink become very boring, but almost everyone on the gear is.

go to a house party. offered a cornucopia of sherbert. fizz, craft beer, wine, whisky. dozens of people become friendly and enlivened by a couple of something nice. most have a good time.

go to one and everyone gets on the gear and its completely different. no interaction, no conversation worthy of the name. drugs are anti-social, you may as well be alone. a few drinks, despite the efforts of the minority of those who shouldnt have any, is not.

Youve managed to kick the gear and now convincing yourself youve done the right thing by just sticking to the bevvy

You are right btw, well done!

ty. um a maniac toper though

Well that will be your next battle...then it will be the coffee or sweeties, getting the weight down until you go full circle and think what's the fking point

Don't put off joining that gym btw