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Its quite amazing when you think of it Elisjohn , it simply doesn't add up..You can spend a whole day in a indoor shopping mall with thousends of people touching off each other yet standing in the open air is considered unsafe...
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I'm booked up to go to Brighton on 18th May, there are 6 of us. Not expecting great racing of course but it'll be nice to watch races live again.
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17th may we can go racing again.
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Crowds were back at old trafford yesterday for the footie.
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17th. Good stuff.
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elisjohn
epsom between 4,000 and 10,000 royal ascot trying to get 10,000 wembly 22,500 same week,snooker full house today ![]() racing both sides of the sea need to get its finger out and start lobbying for proper crowds. |
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17th , shame just missing the dante meeting then
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yes jimnast, illtell you this ive no time for barry hearns, but if he was in charge of racing, id assure you that there would be a full house at hq for the guineas meeting , and aintree would have been with fans as well imo
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yes he would not stand for all this.
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no loss , let racing sort itself out before they allow honest punters back !
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Hoping Dante days are sunny, picnic rug up the hill 1.5f out does the trick, not the same but free and 5 beers for a 5er
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i hope they provide some toilets then
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york council are not helping they dont want big crowds at the summer fixtures because they dont wont them back in the city,i bet the restaurant owners and pubs are rejoicing at that.
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Use the bushes, not arroganly but try my hardest to be out of view, but thats not ideal Jim I agree.
York packed today with a mixture of what looked like Uk tourists, day drinkers and eaters. Our council possibly like most seem to be stuck in the 20th century but I try not to moan! |
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To be fair been like that plenty of last summer on the grass 1.5f out, plenty of people bringing a picnic and tins by the looks of it, a few of us stay all 7 races or whatever and people have left it immaculate, no mess left, there shouldnt be a problem unless the council or the racecourse create one.
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we all have to use bushes from time to time,
are many of the hotels open in york ? |
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Apart from last year have been going Ebor meeting on the Friday, loved it, first class train from London,hotel opposite for a few, easy to get to track, easy getting a drink and Champagne at a decent price, great viewing, hope we can go this year.
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dis something similar, 1st class train paid in advance cost me only about 20 quid more, than 2nd class, leather seats , tea/ coffee, full english, and on way back , went through a few wine bottles plus a bottle of gin and a meal.
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everybody comments on the price of champagne at york deptford ,i would say you could have 3 bottles at york or one at goodwood.
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Jim I couldnt tell you sorry!
Its the smaller days I miss, give me a day at Thirsk, Ripon, Weth any day over a load of pish cans @ york, ironic ino when ive just told you I take a bag of cans to see the racing outside! I did see York made some discussion with BHA to put Dante back a week. Offical line was NO - it doesnt fit in with classic pattern. |
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all it would have done is clashed with the lupe stakes and predominante stakes at goodwood ,its like so many are trying to awkward again i thought the pandemic might of ironed that out a bit.
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all it would have done is clashed with the lupe stakes and predominante stakes at goodwood ,its like so many are trying to awkward again i thought the pandemic might of ironed that out a bit.
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all it would have done is clashed with the lupe stakes and predominante stakes at goodwood ,its like so many are trying to awkward again i thought the pandemic might of ironed that out a bit.
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Yeah adapt, do anything, unpopular for many reasons but why not run 2 days of the Dante with the worst 2 thirds of races as normal, save the best 6 races for ANY day the week after, use whatever day of the week you like, 5 odd days diff should be ok for horse prep.I get the feeling they do not want it that badly!
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Redcar anyone? https://www.redcarracing.co.uk/fixtures/regular-raceday-monday-17th-may/ From what I understand in addition ot face nappies, you can't freely roam to the parade and preparade rings .
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Think you can add Ponte to that.
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cheapest tickets at chester just 60 quid charming
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Jimnast , hopefully that's not the start of rip off racing...
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Ponte might as well have stayed closed for what they are setting up.
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Might as well be in the park.
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Chester is a rip off once you factor in transport (train), ticket, food etc. fook that. I'd rather deposit on here and punt with that money.
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You could say the same about anything punts. Why go anywhere when its cheaper to stay at home and watch on TV. Some people like to experience events live in the real world.
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hello workrider
hope your well chester is always expensive has been for years ,day members or county stand can cost more than royal ascot one you see ok racing one you see the best racing in the world,chester has a big open space in the middle where people could go and picnic for say a tenner and still be close to the action,but no they will just ram it up everybody,not just with entrance cost but the cost of everything else when you are there,chester bet takes 10%of the sp the punters who use them will not be aware as they do not need to display that fact,i have no doubt if asked why the course is not open they will blame covid as many other walks of life will for the rest of both our lives,its a real shame the way chester has gone i know its not every ones cup of tea but i do enjoy the up coming vase meeting,next week at york who cater for the same kind of racegoer is all round great value to suit everybodys pocket. |
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I for one wont be paying decent money to be herded into one section of a course and told off if you pull your mask down. Not my idea of a day out. I'll wait for the day when i can go racing and do what the hell i like when i get there..
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Cheltenham in October maybe?
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There is surely no chance after Chelt the first time around that they will be first to commit to anything?
If the football is back and maskless to 1/2 capacity then surely racing will follow suit, dont see racing being first to do anything. Jim a couple of questions, I have about 30 UK IRE tracks to do, you dont know which of the 30 are left ofc, but how far down the list would Chester be to visit? Ive been into the town and seen what thats like so dont overly need to see that part again! And how many of the 50 odd courses we have do you feel are better off financially with no crowds in? |
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York on May 22 apparently for a limited number.
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York on May 22 apparently for a limited number.
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good morning swaddle
your first question about chester i know i gave it some stick earlier on this thread and i do not like the way it is been run and to be honest can only see the company getting even greedier ,it is a great course to visit especially this fixture i accept not everyone likes chester and can understand that,however i would be pretty sure the current vase meeting would suit you, train station about a 20 minute walk through the town,the friday nights and saturdays like york and haydock are probably best avoided,they do have a friday afternoon fixture the day before the st leger which i sometimes go to and in all honesty its a bit to quiet in fact the last time i went i left after 5 races and went in the pub that overlooks the finishing straight,then popped out to watch from the wall,to answer how far down the list i would have chester in the top 20 of courses to visit in fact i could not split the vase meeting over the dante meeting. 2nd question i could not put a number on how many would be better of without crowds as it beggars belief that some seem fine with it but whilst they are getting grants i would say 20 upwards, leicester a track i like do try but have always struggled to get crowds large asian population,miles out of the town and other big sporting teams in the city probably the reasons they would be better of just getting the tv/data money as would others as i say i like leicester and they do try there best ,here is a few examples when the public are meant to be allowed back on may 17th. hexham may 18th no public just members and shareholders huntingdon no public for the fixtures on may 18th and may 31st clearly getting to much help and thats a jcr course who where trying to sell kempton to raise money,so in fact on the 2nd day of the public been allowed back nobody can go night racing that date,we all saw the stampede to sit outside pubs in the cold for some reason racing does not fancy taking any of that money people want to spend. newmarket may 22nd 4000 attendance but only 1500 public already sold out who are the other 2,500 ? i think they have around 1200 members so that would leave 1300 owners or perhaps the gravy train is been well looked after. stratford first 3 fixtures only the centre course is open. ponte only the 3rd ring open thats a large car park 2 furlongs out. you say you dont see racing to be the first to do anything nor do i,sageform suggest cheltenham in october as ridiculous as it is i would take that as been back to an unrestricted crowd ,even though its almost 6 months later than barry hearn got a full house in doors at the snooker. to many in racing have become to comfortable with the situation no traffic nice and easy to wander around the racecourse itv racing seem to have more staff than mcdonalds they are fine and dandy with it in fact they struggle not to show how much they are enjoying been there ,i pay to go racing over 200 days a year and i know a few others from this forum who do the same yet these sort of loyal racegoers are been forgotten,2 tracks that race in the period from may 17th till june 21st are tracks i am an annual member at are making it very complicated to go racing even for a member who just wants to go racing again ,imagine those who are not as keen they will in the end just give up and find something else to do. from june 21st as we stand social distancing ends however i fear many racecourses with dither around and chase many away from the sport its not just the uk ,the head of hri said the other day he hopes to get some crowds back for listowel which is in late september where on earth is the ambition from the people who run the sport ,50,000 turned up at the kentucky derby last weekend yet it seems like so long as the the industry insiders are ok over here sod the punters. |