Derek Chauvin trial starts today.

Broadcast live on Court TV  Sky channel  179.

stewarts, are you aware of the autopsy findings?

Surely 12 mixed race jurors would be better

No George, did see his defense attorney saying something about cause of death but I'm  not pre-emptying anything.

In that case stewarts, you may be interested to watch what on Fox News (boo, hiss, spit) a few weeks back.

This includes some of the body cam footage, which Tucker Carlson claims had been kept from the American people and he only saw because it was released in this country by The Dail Maily, and then he goes into the autopsy findings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFiAVsiFx90

WFM unless he's running in the last at Fontwell.

* Mail

is this the chit chat forum i am on

The USA has been divided for many years, long before DT exacerbated it during the last 4 and irrespective of the current climate, jury and media he is 100% guilty in my eyes.

I wouldn't bet on the result though.

No chit chat now fellas, but this is massive and if I didn't start a thread someone else would imo.

I haven't followed this much since it broke last summer but from the footage it doesn't look good. But hey, this is America so anybodys guess the outcome.

When I saw "Derek trial starts today", my heart leaped,for a glorious moment I thought that Thommo was finally making a belated and much deserved Old Bailey appearance! Alas no, but at least the "Big Fella" appears to have been booted off the media gravy train!

Guilty as fcuk, but so was OJ!

Not guilty

whats the  odds?

seeing as there's footage of him doing it , he's guilty . but seeing as this is usa not guilty wouldn't be a shock.

At 6pm everyone stand out on their doorstep and take the knee .... At 8pm everyone back out on their doorstep and clap hands .... And finally at 10pm everyone stand out on their doorstep totally naked and show your neighbours what you've got .

All the police have got is foaming at the mouth after swallowing pills,they are going to say that is what finished him overdose.....

Thought Tommo had already made his debut at the Bailey in the Kieren Fallon trial.
In which milord Justice Marland instructed the jury to..
'Treat this evidence with caution.'

Not Guilty... Case Closed.

George floyds family were paid 27 million dollars in compo

No they weren't the final details are still pending

The times say you are wrong

Hopefully the jury get to see / hear the evidence of him playing the dying swan act on a previous drugs bust  / arrest .

every newspaper claims the same amount but maybe you know better

there is zero chance of a not guity verdict

Where were you all last week on the trial thread.........with odds?

Sums up here and society,if not immediate gratification,little interest outside your bubbles?

That applied before Covid btw!!!!

As it happens the officer is a Political Pawn,no less,a fukcing disgrace to be put on trial Period as they like to say?

George floyd was a drug addict  who threatened a pregnant woman with a knife during an armed robbery......but somehow down the line he has almost gained sainthood.....a martyr when in reality he was thoroughly horrible human being

" George floyds family were paid 27 million dollars in compo"
Surely the compensation should have waited until after the trial.

forgone conclusion....though he was a horrible human being he was unlawfully killed

Carrot
"No they weren't the final details are still pending"
It is a pre trial settlement.

Laying odds on cause of death Cardifffc?

Tis better to be white and guilty in America than to be black and innocent.

Must affect the way these things get priced up pre-race.

i will give you 33s on acquital

How many shades of 'guilty' are there?

Community service one of them?

Thought Tommo had already made his debut at the Bailey in the Kieren Fallon trial.

The Latarps: quite right, but not as a defendant - Tommo was described by George Carman as totally dishonest - an absolutely shocking accusation! "Whoa there Big Fella", how could Rumpole of the Bailey slander such a shining light and outstanding defender of the ordinary punter! Ring Tommo's premium line (£2 a second) to register your protest!

Thommo retracted his evidence,he is and was a coward!!!NAP

MMA Expert witness it was a blood choke and he was shimmy to apply more pressure

The officer did nothing wrong,he is a political pawn.

Jury gone home back tomorrow 09:30 CDT

Cardiff
"George floyd was a drug addict  who threatened a pregnant woman with a knife during an armed robbery......but somehow down the line he has almost gained sainthood.....a martyr when in reality he was thoroughly horrible human being "

Why  are the media afraid to say that ?

" forgone conclusion....though he was a horrible human being he was unlawfully killed "

"is unlawfully killed Murder ? Surely murder is a premeditated action with a motive. Whatever he is guilty off I do not regard it as murder. The other cops standing around are they being charged with anything ? Accomplices or accessories ?

The other cops to be charged with aiding and abetting.

Chauvin motive is he doesn't like black guys.

When they interviewed the owner of the night club where Chauvin worked part time

as security she said he (Chauvin) doesn't like afro-caribbean men.

to old git1

The chap should get a medal not a jail sentence . Hopefully he gets off , and he should too . I’d do the same myself if I was confronted by this type of vermin every day of the week . Ok he clearly didn’t want to kill him but he had to use force to keep him penned down , the final outcome was not what the police officer had wanted obviously, but he had to keep this head case on the ground for his own safety and the safety of his colleagues.

Can't believe i'm in agreement with glentoby and even robo......!!

I think most would agree posy,it is a stitch up on a scale rarely seen,even in America.They howl about human rights and political prisoners in China etc and yet they are doing exactly the same.The DA's office have added the 3rd degree murder charge and manslaughter as they are desperate for a conviction of any kind.

The worst of it is they do not have to prove intent which itself is a travesty,the only chance of a jury "Not Guilty" is if the cause of death can be ascribed to the decedents pre existing condition and proved by experts.Even then no guarantee,no such thing as a fair trial in the US,usually down to how much you can afford to pay for defence.

Robbo. The prisoner was cuffed.

one has been done for tax evasion, voter fraud, and 18 cases of misconduct on his personnel file.

Take my hat off to the cops that have to patrol those American mean streets,every second bad guy high on something and guns a plenty.

Just in February,a cop shot dead a young female,who was charged after an officer,shouting allahu akbar after his taser failed

She had a particular large knife in her hand,crazy world

Oldgit , that animal could do plenty damage even if he was cuffed . I wouldn’t fancy a head butt or a bite off him, would you ?

Only a few months since a custody officer in UK was shot and killed by a cuffed prisoner.

Exactly , it’s easy to be so righteous from your home . If you were staring down the likes of chicken George every day of the week , you mightn’t be so anxious to look after his human rights .

Had he been a white man nobody would have heard about outside the officer receiving his commendation.

1/33 guilty on murder 2nd degree imo. Officer was not doing it for his or his colleagues safety at all. Even when told the guy wasnt breathing he just kept on, like a animal out of control. Thats the police in the 21st century though

George Floyd was a career criminal who had a history of play acting when he was arrested the fact that the judge has deemed that the video evidence of his complaining he couldn't breathe while foaming at the mouth after swallowing his stash  and calling for his momma at a previous arrest speaks volumes to the officers chance of a fair trial

Robbo
" Oldgit , that animal could do plenty damage even if he was cuffed . I wouldn’t fancy a head butt or a bite off him, would you ?"
You would probably catch something really nasty.

Mar 29, 2021 -- 8:50PM, cardifffc wrote:

forgone conclusion....though he was a horrible human being he was unlawfully killed

yep

" Only a few months since a custody officer in UK was shot and killed by a cuffed prisoner"

Did no one see the bulge in his pocket  or pat him down ?

what part do you disagree with...we have a recording of the copper unlawfully killing him........and putting a knife to  a pregnant women in the middle of an armed robbery and my book and i assume yours makes him a horrible human being

in * my book

Cardiff FC you are a moron who believes the moon is made of cheese and the earth is flat,thank the lord you will never sit on a jury!!!

you think he is going to get off with it....more chance of kicking sh**te to the moon

i wouldnt back him at 100\1 to get all charges not guilty....would you

Did I say that Cardiff? Difference is 30 years as a Police officer V what you bring to the table?

People like you should be locked up,the Facebook society = MORONS!!!= YOU YSDC

Convicting someone when you know fukc all?

george floyd could well have died of other things rather than by the copper but there is ZERO chance of anything bar a guilty verdict...i do agree this will not be a fair trial.....the video evidence will trump any medical evidence

my son in law like you is a racist and he thinks the copper  is being stitched up

glentoboy...the difference between us is i think the copper is guilty of no more than manslaughter but you think he should get a commendation medal for bravery and a nice fat pension

Anyone watching this live trial...?

Watched some 11kv,so far the witnesses seem as dodgy as the decedent and as genuine as fake tan?

Appears to be scripted..

That is normal in a US trial 11KV,they are coached and scripted.By the defence as well as the prosecutors,the only chance of being cleared completely is the medical experts for the defence being able to prove the cause of death was anything other than the officers actions.

Looks to be where its going, George was admitted to hospital with a Heroin overdose previously and had a drug problem most of his life along with his girlfriend..

All this talk of Racism , very little mention that a Black officer stood by while George was being restrained ,Had it been the Black officer Kueng on top of George would we even be at this Point ,Sacked Plea deal and Job would have been done , Chauvin accepted a 10 year plea deal ,not good enough Trial went ahead ...If he gets done for manslaughter he wont be doing 10 years IMVHO.

The free shoppers Burners and Murderers will hit the Streets  .

Yes George suffered from Back pain . Leading to Life long Drugs , Infact the pain was so bad one day that George smashed down a pregnant womans front door ,levelled her and stuck a gun in her Belly in his quest for pain relief .