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koikeeper
26 Mar 21 23:33
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JONBON in the bumper.
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Report leif March 26, 2021 11:17 PM GMT
eye-watering amount paid for it after its point to point win.

would've preferred to have seen it go to Mullins to be honest.
Report olddesperado March 27, 2021 12:47 AM GMT
Had he went to Mullins he probably would have had one win in a bumper and started under 2/1 for champion bumper.
Would be probably under 2/1 for a Nov hurdle back there next March.

Instead he's currently evens at Newbury nearly two weeks after Cheltenham.

That's the difference.
Report leif March 27, 2021 12:56 AM GMT
Hard to gauge what 1/2 million bucks gets you unless you're J.P.

If it gets beat it will no doubt be judged to be, 'better when it jumps an obstacle'

https://www.facebook.com/Cheltmental/videos/%EF%B8%8F-douvans-brother-jonbon-im-sure-you-saw-the-name-banded-about-yesterday-but-thi/774198133311118/
Report dukeofpuke March 27, 2021 2:13 AM GMT
A gelding dont forget

Also O'Brien horse running at Navan HMS Seahorse entered in the 2000 and Derby

Already had Joan of Arc won entered in 1000 and Oaks

Dont forget the Irish seem to be way ahead of UK horses
Report koikeeper March 27, 2021 6:53 AM GMT
It clocked the fastest time of the day on the bit, winning by 15l, extraordinary for a horse having its 1st outing, and the rating it was given was a record for a 4yr old.
Regardless of what it beat, the clock backs up how good a performance it was..
Report Andrew.in.Sweden March 27, 2021 7:04 AM GMT
Jambon run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgBOZGZu5zA
Report Deptford March 27, 2021 7:31 AM GMT
A lovely wipe of the camera and a view of someones house!! Looking forward to watching this later, its madness the prices being paid though, sellers must be in clover, good luck to them.
Report FOYLESWAR March 27, 2021 7:36 AM GMT
a brother to douvan and prominent in betting for the supreme /ballymore , the horse he beat has run respectably without winning since , that said this looks a weak field the nicholls horse form has suggested he beat trees and come on george seems to have beaten boats . 4/5 jonbon  seems too good to be true and ya know what they say if it seems too good to be true and all that .no bet in race for me good luck to those that do.
Report GAZO March 27, 2021 8:05 AM GMT
can the prices being paid for these horses really be true ?
Report FOYLESWAR March 27, 2021 8:33 AM GMT
yes  gazo it may seem crazy to the average joe but when you have money like the top owners its probably equivilent to me or you buying a pair of shoes ,jonbon should win he could hardly have been found an easier bumper to start but being a brother to douvan dont guarantee that he is going to be as good or half as good ,look at the same connections `flinter sacres big brother paid a lot of dough for that and not set the world alight yet ,could still do ! what it does ensure is that with those conections 9/times outta ten he will be overbet . that said hope he pishes up today !
Report 11kv March 27, 2021 8:35 AM GMT
The owners who pay these prices can well afford it.Plain
Report koikeeper March 27, 2021 8:57 AM GMT
It ran 20secs quicker than the "open " (experienced horses) carrying 5lb less on the bit.
If henderson has it ready, I can't see petrossian beating it giving it 4lb.
Report FOYLESWAR March 27, 2021 9:20 AM GMT
as said koi should pish up and hope it does , just the price bugs me a bit ,good luck if you back it!
Report Andrew.in.Sweden March 27, 2021 9:28 AM GMT
Andrew.in.Sweden    27 Mar 21 08:04 
Jambon run

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgBOZGZu5zA


Deptford 27 Mar 21 08:31

A lovely wipe of the camera and a view of someones house!!


Deptford

Couldn't you open the You Tube link ? Jambons' full P2P race is on there, the video is over 6 mins.

Nothing has come out of the race to frank the form and half the field didn't finish. Paul Holden couldn't sell it quick enough after winning (hardly surprising looking at the numbers) but if JP is prepared to pay £570,000 good luck to him, it's pocket money anyway. A half brother to Douvan is always going to create interest and he could sluice up, but do you really want to be backing it at odds-on, irrespective of how well it won an egg and spoon P2P race.

Good luck.
Report Pilsudski March 27, 2021 9:29 AM GMT
Will be laying.
Report GAZO March 27, 2021 9:31 AM GMT
you are going to be backing at horse at odds on and you know they dont really care too much if it wins,could be miles classier than these but you know it really is just out for a run at this stage of the season
Report differentdrum March 27, 2021 9:35 AM GMT
Already a thread but hey ho let's start another one.

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/31697655/jonbon-545-newbury-sat

I suppose the title of the thread covers all bases. The market at the moment isn't shouting 'special', but chances are he won't need to be that good to win today.
Report Deptford March 27, 2021 9:37 AM GMT
I watched it mate, half way through someone wiped the rain off the camera,made me chuckle.
Report robo March 27, 2021 9:42 AM GMT
It’s clearly been recommended by Derek to McManus , and Derek’s record in this field isn’t good . In fact you wouldn’t send Derek to the shop for a bottle of milk . I’d say you can safely knock one digit off his price tag to find his real value .
Report FOYLESWAR March 27, 2021 9:47 AM GMT
maradona had a brother !
Report cardifffc March 27, 2021 9:55 AM GMT
foyles...2 brothers....funny thing your analogy is correct as they were both pro footballers and both way below maradona
Report cardifffc March 27, 2021 9:55 AM GMT
i hope jonbon wins
Report robo March 27, 2021 10:14 AM GMT
I couldn’t care less whether he wins or not but if you send Baldrick out to buy horses then you don’t expect to get too much success . Where was Derek when the likes of sir gerhard, envoi Allen , bob olinger , them type of horses were for sale ?. You only have to look at McManus point to point purchases , calthor, magic tricks , coqolino, them kind of yaks, to see what’s happening here
Report Storm Alert March 27, 2021 10:22 AM GMT
Interested to watch to see what McManus has got for his 570k. 2.12 on Betfair making it slightly more interesting from a betting pov, but it's not a penalty kick as some of the other runners look decent enough.
Report koikeeper March 27, 2021 10:36 AM GMT
Different drum, sorry for starting another thread, didn't see the other one.
Never mind, anything to have a go lol.
Report 1st time poster March 27, 2021 11:12 AM GMT
shouldnt expect anything special on price ,cost about 80 grand less than the animal beaten miles in a egg n spoon race at the gaffs last week
Report 1st time poster March 27, 2021 11:18 AM GMT
odds against everywhere
Report Storm Alert March 27, 2021 11:41 AM GMT
Drift tells you it ain't expected to win.
Report freddiewilliams March 27, 2021 1:08 PM GMT
Friend got a horse for 500 quid. Put it in field for few years.
Got it to win it's bumper first time out beating a JP fav. Jp sent Charlie swan up to his door to buy it. 175k. Did nothing after
Report metro john March 27, 2021 1:29 PM GMT
Thanks Koikeeper, would have to agree.
Report BennyBinion1 March 27, 2021 1:36 PM GMT
11-8 now
Report leif March 27, 2021 5:33 PM GMT
odds on now.

2.4 earlier.
Report Tarooq March 27, 2021 5:38 PM GMT
Storm Dennis ew for me. GL
Report Storm Alert March 27, 2021 5:38 PM GMT
I think that must be due to the weakness of Petrossian. not a race I feel the need to get involved in, interested to watch though.
Report Storm Alert March 27, 2021 5:40 PM GMT
Top Of The Bill 10.0 quite big for the best form of the previous runners.
Report leif March 27, 2021 5:40 PM GMT
Greening up could see it drift out a tad.
Report leif March 27, 2021 5:50 PM GMT
Cheltenham 2022 starts here

Which race?
Report FOYLESWAR March 27, 2021 5:50 PM GMT
well done koi
Report hulk23 March 27, 2021 5:50 PM GMT
massive run
Report BennyBinion1 March 27, 2021 5:50 PM GMT
How and why did 'they' let that thing drift to nearly 6-4 earlier?

Dont get it
Report nearlygotup March 27, 2021 5:50 PM GMT
yes looked pretty good to me koi keeper
Report Storm Alert March 27, 2021 5:54 PM GMT
Ridden like a good horse and looked impressive. Betting pattern throughout the day interesting.
Report Dunstall Park Snooper March 27, 2021 5:54 PM GMT
Well Done KOI
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY March 27, 2021 5:58 PM GMT
Fav for supreme?
Report maleuk01. March 27, 2021 5:58 PM GMT
looked a smart performance, those with experience out of the back of the TV.

Runner up ran well too on debut.

Could be anything still,though i bet JP is moe than happy with the price now.
Report maleuk01. March 27, 2021 6:00 PM GMT
356 12/1 for supreme
Report diabolicalliability March 27, 2021 6:00 PM GMT
harry job done ExcitedLaughLaughLaugh
Report leif March 27, 2021 6:05 PM GMT
Could emulate Douvan by winning that race.
Report Macintoshmatty March 27, 2021 6:15 PM GMT
well done Koi
Report workrider March 27, 2021 6:16 PM GMT
The Brits talking of Cheltenham , will they ever learn, its just over a week ago you won a few races there...Laugh
Report happysandwich March 27, 2021 6:17 PM GMT
What struck me with JONBON was at the start.
It was prancing on the spot and appeared to have an air of superiority over the other horses.
De Boinville seemed to know what he had under him all the way through the race and it was all over when he said go.

Very impressive indeed.
Report workrider March 27, 2021 6:22 PM GMT
Happy wait till he meets one of our good ones , then he'll be stamping the ground in wonder at how he is been left behind..
Report leif March 27, 2021 6:28 PM GMT
Workrider. mebbe Jonbon ends up with mullins or the broomhead ...

bingo, another Irish trained winner Crazy
Report workrider March 27, 2021 6:31 PM GMT
Only taking the mickey Leif, that did look impressive .
Report robo March 27, 2021 7:00 PM GMT
In fairness the race fell apart , the nicholls horse drifted like a barge and ran like a goat , the third fav was ridden by Mark grant and will never ever win any kind of a bumper , the fourth in was too free and it was left to a 6yo newcomer trained by Alistair Ralph to chase home Jonbon . Time will tell whether he’s a very good horse or not , but today was no real indication .
Report Pilsudski March 27, 2021 7:50 PM GMT
Agree with that,Robo.
Report Giddy March 28, 2021 3:19 PM BST
Big form boost for Jonbon today. Whiskeywealth finish 26 lengths behind in the point race and was 6 clear when falling at the last at Limerick today
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