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Report CROPSICK March 17, 2021 2:42 PM GMT
i think the english jockeys made the mockery
Report Poppydog. March 17, 2021 2:44 PM GMT
Look at his Supreme Novices run

Continually hampered and managed to finish 7th
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 17, 2021 2:45 PM GMT
Got to give the jockey credit there
Report slickster March 17, 2021 2:48 PM GMT
The doggie man ha haaaaa. What carrots turnips and parsnips was this one on? Truly unbelievable performance.
Report Poppydog. March 17, 2021 2:48 PM GMT
In fact 'hampered' is an understatement, pushed 20 widths wide a couple of times at the buckle end of the race
Report handtorofe March 17, 2021 2:50 PM GMT
That was a peach of a ride.
Report jimnast March 17, 2021 2:50 PM GMT
won a grade b last time at the dublin festival nothing hidden
Report spyker March 17, 2021 2:52 PM GMT
just incompetence from the Irish handicapper then.
Report jimnast March 17, 2021 2:55 PM GMT
if you say so
Report cloone river March 17, 2021 2:55 PM GMT
Nothing hidden the form was they.Course winner won last time out nice weight,only sorry I didnt back it.
Report cloone river March 17, 2021 2:59 PM GMT
Went up 12 pounds for a neck win.
Report sageform March 17, 2021 3:00 PM GMT
Could have won with another 14lb so academic.
Report jimnast March 17, 2021 3:01 PM GMT
also 7th behind shishkin in the supreme novice
Report cloone river March 17, 2021 3:06 PM GMT
Stepping up in trip on good ground.
Report workrider March 17, 2021 3:09 PM GMT
If Arkle won today some on here would say the Irish handicapper helped him LaughLaugh. Best left to their own anger Cloone
Report slickster March 17, 2021 3:40 PM GMT
Something not adding up far far too many times.
Report StillLearning March 18, 2021 3:51 PM GMT
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Report sparrow March 18, 2021 3:52 PM GMT
Grin
Report slickster March 18, 2021 3:59 PM GMT
ANOTHER one. Sprinted up the hill like a grade 1 performer. Should have entered this one in the gold cup.
Report knoxville March 18, 2021 4:03 PM GMT
a donkey with 3 legs would beat all the english horses.
embarrassment
Report sageform March 18, 2021 4:05 PM GMT
Not just the winners though is it. Most of the second, third and fourth placed finishers have also been trained in Ireland this year.
Report Steamship March 18, 2021 4:07 PM GMT
Battle hardened Irish horses beating cotton wool English ones.
Report duffy March 18, 2021 4:08 PM GMT
knoxville 18 Mar 21 17:03 
a donkey with 3 legs would beat all the english horses.
embarrassment


Don't exaggerate, it would need 4 legs, but would still probably manage it with goutGrin
Report jimnast March 18, 2021 4:08 PM GMT
rooster booster won the champion hurdle after winning the greatwood hurdle,sizing europe won the champion chase after winning the greatwood hurdle,the shunter won a cheltenham handicap chase after winning the greatwood hurdle.
Report sageform March 18, 2021 4:09 PM GMT
Next race 5 English runners and only one in the first 10 in the betting. The last might be an English winner.
Report workrider March 18, 2021 4:09 PM GMT
Exactly Steamship , only one of ours put in cotton wool is Al and he might find that against him tomorrow..
Report MJK March 18, 2021 4:09 PM GMT
Maybe UK trainers can get their revenge at Fairyhouse or Punchestown. Though they'd have to actually send horses to do that.
Report Steamship March 18, 2021 4:10 PM GMT
I just hope British trainers start running their horses more often and not worry so much about Cheltenham. This rout could be a good thing
Report slickster March 18, 2021 4:11 PM GMT
The handicapper made to look a mug. He needs a new rule book. And quickly.
Report sageform March 18, 2021 4:16 PM GMT
I suspect that the serious virus that was around in November/December put paid to many of the GB horses for the rest of the season. Many are not just getting beaten, they are not even finishing at all!
Report duffy March 18, 2021 4:18 PM GMT
The Dublin racing festival was a fantastic innovation and I think that has certainly helped the Irish in accelerating the domination.
Report sageform March 18, 2021 4:22 PM GMT
Didn't have a bet in that lot but I was itching to back Rachael from 4 out. Wonderful ride.
Report Pleasegivemeanailedontip March 18, 2021 4:27 PM GMT
Top ten chasers in uk includes bristol de mai, clan des obeax, cyrname, altior, politilogue, saint calvados - not even getting to the start line

Saint calvados pulled out due to the unsuitability of the good to soft ground
Report jimnast March 18, 2021 4:30 PM GMT
agree with both steamships last two posts
Report jimnast March 18, 2021 4:32 PM GMT
a bit harsh on al boum workrider the intention was to run at punchestown after the festival last year.
Report ribero1 March 18, 2021 4:35 PM GMT
I said after last year that the days of just chucking it in the hod and waiting are over,need to pick your matches.
Report workrider March 18, 2021 4:36 PM GMT
Jimnast just never liked them been locked up for most of the year thats all , I can see the point though its something I would never have thought possible for a G.C. winner but they have been proved right and Hen showed it works , not saying he'll get beat tomorrow just its not my reading of how racing should head . He has a massive shout tomorrow..
Report sageform March 18, 2021 4:59 PM GMT
How on earth could that win from there it was? Must have 3 stone in hand.
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 18, 2021 5:00 PM GMT
at least
Report mukdahan March 18, 2021 5:01 PM GMT
if it jumped would have won a distance
Report slickster March 18, 2021 5:01 PM GMT
Last with a lap to go. 20 odd horses to pass. Took a while for the magic turnips to kick in there. Some serious questions need asking. And answering.
Report workrider March 18, 2021 5:02 PM GMT
Joint top weight into the bargain...
Report robo March 18, 2021 5:05 PM GMT
Complete farce , the paddies are the new Chinese
Report loper March 18, 2021 5:06 PM GMT
Next year's Gold Cup should have an entry level rating of 170.

British horses no need to apply.
Report jimnast March 18, 2021 5:09 PM GMT
beaten by a very good horse a thurles who may win tomorrows mares chase
Report robo March 18, 2021 5:40 PM GMT
Who is the leading vet at the meeting ?. Does every trainer have a vet of their own or do some vets work their magic with a few trainers ?
Report Cash Is King March 18, 2021 6:05 PM GMT
The Irish and British handicappers have an impossible task. They can only rate what performances they see.

The barrage of criticism should be levelled at the Irish stewards. Far too many Irish horses race with the handbrake applied with a view to obtaining lenient marks.
Report Cash Is King March 18, 2021 6:08 PM GMT
That said, both sets of handicappers can be legitimately criticised for being too generous when it comes to assessing performances in graded races.
Report robo March 18, 2021 6:10 PM GMT
Horses achieve lenient marks running without the marching powder , it’s when they are loaded up , the handicapper is in bother
Report cloone river March 18, 2021 6:13 PM GMT
And that never happens in England cash is king?Most of them Irish winners have a one next to they name.And some have ran in England the last year.The form is they for everyone to see.
Report MJK March 18, 2021 6:45 PM GMT
Between the Elliott case and Cheltenham some of the arrogance has been amazing.  God forbid anyone is better than England at something.
Report sparrow March 18, 2021 6:54 PM GMT
The Irish are in a different class it seems to me.
Report BULLET TOOTH TONY March 18, 2021 7:04 PM GMT
Think we all are in agreement with that!

But why is the gulf half a second+
Report robo March 18, 2021 7:10 PM GMT
The Irish vets are in a different class , that’s crystal clear . Anybody who thinks this is straight should go away and have a good chat with themselves . When Sonia O Sullivan was beaten by the Chinese , the thick paddies were screaming the house down , but when the shoe is on the other foot , it’s all rosy . Horses galloping and galloping , horses finishing up at odds that are scarcely believable . Three impossible handicaps , paddy horses finish up 3-1 twice and 9-4 . Two win and the other second . What a joke
Report teedoubleu March 18, 2021 7:22 PM GMT
All Irish horses are juiced up the eyeballs and the english are too stupid to be able to find it
Report ImSoLuckyLucky! March 18, 2021 7:31 PM GMT
Another BIG BLOT in the
county tomorrow

Laugh
Report StillLearning March 18, 2021 7:42 PM GMT

Mar 18, 2021 -- 2:31PM, ImSoLuckyLucky! wrote:


Another BIG BLOT in thecounty tomorrow


another big BROMHEAD blot.

Report MJK March 18, 2021 7:54 PM GMT
Robot if it shuts you up we might let you win the rugby on Saturday
Report robo March 18, 2021 8:08 PM GMT
MJK , I’m Irish like yourself , the only difference is you are a deluded Irish man , I’m not . If you feel like championing false success , then that’s your prerogative, i on the other hand am taking a more realistic view . Maybe next year we will get Michelle Smith , to take out her training license , and get either Cian O Connor or Steven Roche to ride them
Report MJK March 18, 2021 8:25 PM GMT
Horses with strings of 1s are winning and you claim the only reason they've won at Cheltenham is down to drugs. I dont think I'm the deluded one to be fair. Write to Paul Nicholls at all and ask them where all their entries are. Maybe that might help.
Report jimnast March 18, 2021 8:25 PM GMT
good evening robo flooring porter has improved a bit since beating cusp of caribeli in a summer handicap at gowran.
Report robo March 18, 2021 10:03 PM GMT
Yes Jimmast , fairly mind boggling level of improvement. Just today alone , flooring porter beats cusp of carabelli by a half length in gowran , within 9 months he wins stayers hurdle by half the track . Mrs milliner beat in a shhit race in ballinrobe when fav , bolts in in the pertrmps . Mount Ida has a cup of tea at the first 6 fences , gets tailed off , and comes back to win in a canter . The shunter beaten in Tipperary in a maiden hurdle , wins in Downpatrick, bolts in today . The whole thing is farcical , but deep down people know what’s going on . Without doubt the game is starting to lose popularity, the English are entitled to be miffed . Are we supposed to believe that English trainers can’t train at all ?. A dog trainer won a race yesterday , what’s next ? It’s a pity the sharks 800 euro horse didn’t win , that would have topped off the week nicely
Report Cash Is King March 18, 2021 10:08 PM GMT
Cloone River - the "not really trying" is much more blatant in Irish jumps racing. Watch any maiden hurdle and the runners are strung out like washing immediately after "white flag raised". The sad reality is that if every jockey and trainer responsible for horses not running on their merits was ever properly sanctioned, jumps racing would cease to take place at all within a matter of days or weeks. All parties have a vested interest in the pretence that every horse is running on its merits.
Report Ibrahima Sonko March 18, 2021 10:32 PM GMT
The problem with the uk handicapper is that when a horse wins the handicapper thinks he warrants a rise in the handicap rather than he ran to his mark and others ran to there mark or below, the only way you can get a true mark is when you take on proven g1 horses.

The handicapper doesnt seem to take into account, the ground, the course or mistakes when making a rating.

A horse winning a top notch handicap and ends up on 155 rarely gets within it supposed rating in a top class race.
Report duffy March 18, 2021 10:38 PM GMT
robo 18 Mar 21 19:10 
Horses achieve lenient marks running without the marching powder


LaughLaugh
Report portmanpark March 19, 2021 8:40 AM GMT
will still be called STILL LEARNING in 30 years time
Report EastLower Gooner March 19, 2021 9:08 AM GMT
And the Irish are keeping one over for Uttoxeter...
Report StillLearning March 19, 2021 2:33 PM GMT
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