How much more is to come out

ITS NO GOOD pundits,trainers etc keep using the word WE,when talking about how horses are treated,everyone has  their own individual opinions,they,ll all have stories they wont tell,
they all get a sanitised 5 star pre arranged visit to a yard
from outside racing peoples WE is 2 photos of people in racing clowning about on 2 dead horses,how a mullins blue blood chelt fav gets treated means absolutely zilch in current climate

Plenty more so you can start another new thread on this subject.

First one i have started , if you do not like it do not contribute . Thanks in advance

Plenty more to come I reckon, we haven't heard about the fight between Kate Harrington and the other woman that GE got hold of in the stable bar! Apparently Kate was too beaten up to work next day.

Regardless of whatever else there may be out there to be released, the big questions now are:

Who's behind the release of these images, is there a connection, and why have they chosen to inflict this damage upon the sport?

no the big question is how much more of this is going on
dont shoot the messenger for whatever reason he,s put them out there
question how many people no it went on and said nothing on photo and video at least 7 people

the way they act in photo and video its coming across as the norm

Mar 2, 2021 -- 12:26PM, GAZO wrote:

the way they act in photo and video its coming across as the norm

Thats the worry

Disagree with some of the sentiments on here. Suppressing the truth just because you don't like it isn't the way forward.

These things should not have remained buried. If there is more damning stuff let's hear about it.

Who is responsible and the timing of the revelations is of little or no consequence to the broader picture.

Let's out the bad eggs. That's the best result for racing, not pretending this kind of thing doesn't happen.

totally agree get it all out

well said different

Just to clarify, I wasn't suggesting for one moment that such stories should be suppressed.

In fact quite the opposite, in that it could be that the provocation for the release of these images will reveal more damaging allegations.

for sure George reading around there's allegations of wandering hands with female stable, caught in the act with stable lass, comments hell hath no fury like a women scorned etc.

He's totally f**ked this is obviously coming from very close to home and suspect they have more in the locker

The Mail have gone heavily with this the last few days, seemingly 100% sure of their sources and not worried about libel, no doubt they'll have more ...

Who cares?

He sat on a dead horse is that it? is the world we live in now? fake outrage as per usual, I love horses but ffs come on, if someone sat on my dead corpse I'd not give two hoots I'm dead what would I care?

I think its time we sued the media by closing them down, its a joke the stuff they use to claim "public outcry", no one gives a fook, I told my mum about it earlier and she carried on cleaning up... no one cares

Its pathetic. No doubt they'll attempt to use this to ban horse racing mark my words.

Elliott was badly out of order. We all know that. But a hell of a lot worse going on. What about the stuntman " falling " off odds on shots  costing punters millions. Who did he work for?

Gordon has obviously pissed someone off big time as these incidents are donkeys years old. Perfectly timed for maximum damage imo

july 2019 is 18,months ago,in who,s world is that donkey,s years ago

hence the 2 finger ,2 nationals giggy tiger roll salute not the elliott fairytale of making a sign for someone to keep quiet whilst he,s on the phone,which is why elliott lied and said it happened years/long time ago
and couldnt remember photo when he got call on saturday because it was that long ago

As horrendous as the image was... it’s a sad reflection on society today at just how much media coverage and outcry there has been over this. One suspects there is a much bigger agenda at play here than getting GE out of the sport...

we all no the agenda this time of year Long before GE photo,hence why racing has to be squeaky clean

there,s no one more than those with the agenda who want elliott to remain in racing ,he,s their poster boy now simple banners/posters outside chelt/aintree job done no more need for silly stunts,theyve got their ammo for years to come

Twitter post from a former employee of GE on Cheveley Park account don't paint him in a good light shall we say if of course legit

Mar 2, 2021 -- 2:49PM, now wheres that switch!!! wrote:

As horrendous as the image was... it’s a sad reflection on society today at just how much media coverage and outcry there has been over this. One suspects there is a much bigger agenda at play here than getting GE out of the sport...

There's not been a public outcry, the public could care less about it. Its the media projecting the said "outcry" onto the public and telling us all that's the public reaction. Its rather childish and pathetic tactics really, its kindergarten stuff but its effective in its goal, and that's to demonise and eventually ban horse racing. They've been doing it with gambling for years and look we're at with that now.

They literally do want you all working a desk job, go home have a bath then eat whilst watching TV then offski to bed rinse and repeat through life.

Oh and getting monthly jabs which just zombie everyone into oblivion but that's a different topic being discussed on another sub forum no need for that here.

To answer the OP's original post I dont think it will be too long before the Labaik video is dropped on the public.

do expand mjk

Seeing as you're PRODding me let's just say its electric....

yes mjk just seen the tweet on twitter talking about it

Yard Boxing , were they bare chested ?

if all this is down to a mange trois gone public ,there,s going to be a lot of people sleeping with both eyes open for next few years

Money is the root of all Evil

O'Leary has been well and truly mugged off in throwing his support behind Elliott only to see a video of one of his jockeys doing much the same thing appearing son after.

If there's more to come the man stream press could drip feed the poison bit by bit right up to the festival, they would be the cat and racing the hapless mouse

The absolute minimum that will happen here is that the whip will be banned, flogging an exhausted horse after 3 miles in the mud never looked great.
But the more people who open there mouths about him, the more others will come forward ,as  there's safety in numbers.
I can only see disaster pending for Elliott and some of the people who are his close allies.

Whoever received that photo was at one Point a close friend ,that is for sure

This could all turn very nasty indeed ..

You've got to feel sorry for Kevin O'Ryan in all this. He's about to lose one of his 25 financial streams he gets from racing.

They are trying to Destroy GE and so far are doing a very good job of it ,Lot more than a dead orse involved IMVHO.

Dambuster - we had a horse with Gordon E a few years back and the horse was not treated well. Would never use him again.

Doesn't look as though you'll have much choice

the 1st photo is a love triangle/prank got out of hand
the 2nd video is a bandwagon jumper connected only by content imo

but like most on here /twiiter joining the dots no the rough reasons for the 1st ,but will GE come clean with ihrb and whaqt will they do about it,arguing/spurned skanks able to unleash this ,although obviously the photo should never have been there to use
another damning photo/story surrounding top horse allegedly  out there but have those who released 1st photo realised the damage theyve done and retreated

Lot worse images than that especially when they are dragging dead bulls out of rings covered in blood in front of people eating and drinking on a Sunday afternoon  in certain countries

point is cropsick bullfighting is show on uk tv public wont allow it,racings gets a pass because racing has convinced public all horses get 5 star treatment,which those involved no isnt true as lots of examples prove,
mick quinn
howard johnson
hendo
byrne
russell
whip bans
etc

The people who we should feel sorry for and have empathy with are the stable staff who for the most part are in it for the love of horses (certainly not the money) but they will likely be cast as guilty by association  for the misdeeds of others ... many trainers will have the care of horses as the focus of their attention also but a significant number probably think of horses as a means to a good living and have a lesser regard for livestock (including racing animals) in their charge

1st time poster 02 Mar 21 18:56 
point is cropsick bullfighting is show on uk tv public wont allow it,racings gets a pass because racing has convinced public all horses get 5 star treatment,which those involved no isnt true as lots of examples prove,
mick quinn
howard johnson
hendo
byrne
russell
whip bans
etc

That's right and in all those cases racing was in nowhere near the peril it is right now, people don't get it but it is odds on that jumps racing as we know it won't be around in as little as 20 years IMO.

its not around now like it was 20 years ago

I understand that and i am not excusing Elliot in any way and what he has done has certainly put another nail in racings coffin

Elliot deserves all he gets, but royalty can go grouse shooting and deer stalking and fook all happens to them

Well as bad as the pic of poor Morgan is , its a horse that is dead ,lets hope that's as bad as it gets ,some very nasty business is going on , this all needs to be sorted out .For the sake of all concerned .

Agreed

You can count the number of Grand Nationals left on your fingers and toes

liostening to uk journo,s/pundits last 2 days their going to go balastic if this as seems likely all goes back to a fight between 2 spurned skanks
but that misses the point that the photo,s were out there,the acts taken place

people no my thoughts on screaming skull jane managhan but she,s very good on todays lucky podcast.saying a change of name on the yards gate wont placate her and others ,saying  others in the yard new,took part in the events

All I'm going to say is this

The flies came, the rats would come, the animals will come and eat that dead horse

But a man sits on it and all hell breaks in the media

Sick to death of the media, we cremate people daily without a care in the world, better them than me attitude

Its a fooking joke and needs to stop

Mar 2, 2021 -- 6:09PM, CROPSICK wrote:

Elliot deserves all he gets, but royalty can go grouse shooting and deer stalking and fook all happens to them

Elliott is a k*ob, but there's many of them in society and they all do a lot worse than Elliott without anything happening to them ffs

Much better to keep everything out of arms way and we can all live a fluffy life eh

The Knifeman or Woman no better , its took them  months to bring the picture to the fore

They obviously had no issues with it a few months back ,quickly stored away for future use .

the so-called photo for all the oldies on here is actually a Snapchat and would have sent to a few.

There must be more to come out? there's no way he can have his livelihood taken away from him because he sat on a dead fooking horse?

If that's the case the rest of us might as well pack up and burrow under ground ffs

Like i said earlier, There's safety in numbers, plenty more to come out now the dam has been breached