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Tough winter ahead for alot of people
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Unlike many businesses who have been forced to close, the satchel swingers are not paying expenses like rent, wages and write-off of stock. They might in future lose their assets if racecourses do close. For the moment, though, it is just a matter of lost profits.
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People were allowed into a theatre at Victoria last night.
Total madness we cannot attend an outdoor sport |
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They are forgotten in all this and same for a lot of self employed who have been thrown under the bus its a strange world you go and claim if youve just started self employes less than a year nothing zero and you can get on a boat in france come over and they will house you in a 3 star and above hotel give you 3 meals a day in the hotel restaurant and give you £40 a week, free national health people to help thats a fact
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Why dont out of work bookmakers become layers on a betting exchange.
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I'm sure they would if they could achieve the same overround.
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They can be like punters who have to study and take a view. It needs some work to make a living at this game.
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you have just answered your 1041 question clacton why would they wont to take on clever t...s like you who have the game by the boll.x putting all that work in ?
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clacton 23 Oct 20 10:41
Why dont out of work bookmakers become layers on a betting exchange. Being a layer on here would certainly save on their expenses. |
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All countered by losing your 1.5% per runner having to play at BF prices.
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Pertinent point really.always moaning about expenses....can lay all day long on here if they’re a decent bookie who understands the game.
Comission Charlie’s need not apply |
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Don't you think if it was that easy to make the same money on here they'd all be doing that rather than paying for pitches (and tax) and all of the hassle that goes along with it?
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Agree with all above.
If you are a genuine book then your making a book per race where you are attending anyway right? Only takes 5 mins to come on here and lay the ones you had longer in your book? Had it cushty for too long, said it before ....”expenses” are not a good excuse for poor pricing...which yes we did see confirmed by a study Adapt or die |
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Coral and Ladbrokes announce sale of 106 betting pitches
Two of racing's most famous bookmaking names will no longer be seen in the betting ring after GVC, parent company to Ladbrokes and Coral, announced it was ceasing the operation of all of its 106 racecourse betting pitches. In a statement released on Tuesday, GVC’s trading director Tom Ritzema said the decision had “not been taken lightly”, and that several factors had been taken into consideration. Ritzema said: “This decision has not been taken lightly, and we are very sad to be calling time on Ladbrokes and Coral’s longstanding presence in the racecourse betting ring. “GVC remains totally committed to horse racing, with a significant race sponsorship portfolio under the Ladbrokes and Coral brands, and we are the biggest single provider of betting revenues to the sport.” GVC revealed that terms had been agreed to sell all of its racecourse pitches – 85 in the UK and 21 in Ireland – to John Hooper, who trades under the name Sid Hooper. There are 17 GVC employees impacted by the decision to close down the racecourse operation, and the company reported a consultation with the affected individuals will begin immediately. Ritzema added: “Our priority now is the consultation with the 17 members of the team, who between them have provided a fantastic professional service for our customers, and for the company, for many years. “A number of factors combined to lead us to conclude that a presence in the racecourse betting ring is no longer a strategic imperative for our two UK brands. “The volume of business taken through the racecourse pitches is minuscule, compared to the volumes generated in our off-course retail and digital businesses, and we no longer use the operation to hedge into the racecourse betting ring. “As the racecourse operation is loss-making and no longer has a strategic purpose, we have regrettably reached the decision to sell our pitches and leave the ring. “The current situation with Covid-19, and racing behind closed doors, expedited the decision but was not one of the factors behind it. “Standing in the betting ring will always be a huge part of both Ladbrokes and Coral heritage and history, and we are immensely proud of that. However, the betting landscape has changed immeasurably in recent years, and we need to change with it. “We would like to wish John Hooper the best of fortune with our pitches, going forward.” https://www.racingtv.com/news/coral-and-ladbrokes-quit-on-course-betting-ring |
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What will Sid Hooper do that corals could not do.
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wow sid must have a few bob a very brave man in these times i would say
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The on course bookmakers should carry on making their book as they would before every race they would usually attend.
Where they can lay a lot less on here than they would of been happy to on course they should place a lay bet. Quite simple imo and no expenses. Make a living, adapt or die. Unless of course they dont even bother/incapable of making a book in the first place ![]() |
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Just for information, on-course bookmakers have to pay 15% betting tax on any successful lays they make away from the track, including on betting exchanges. This makes successful laying on here nigh impossible with the commission on top. Not a level playing field with unlicensed layers.
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on-course bookmakers have to pay 15% betting tax on any successful lays they make away from the track
if they text me their lays i'll stick them on for 10% if successful ... |
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Fair enough, thats quite a ridiculous rule and encourages people breaking the rules, point taken.
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and the percentage paying the 15% would be zero unless someone decides to offset the losses on the lays to save tax on another business i seem to recall a well known book was good at publicizing his losses he ran a big business but he would never do it that way
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re your post about sid having a few bob he certainly could not afford them out of being a bookie in tatts,i think it is his son who had an insurance business sold out for zillions who is running the show.some people will think he is daft doing it in this present climate,i always say daft people don't make zillions. hope you are well have a good day regards Ronnie. |
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Yes know all as suspected but you cant accuse people of that haha.
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