Police officer murdered in Police Station.

Very probably, trying to do their job with their hands tied, it's a disgrace and this BLM movement has a lot to answer for imo.

Custody Sergeant shot 5 times, due to retire soon, can we now expect marches in support of the Police Lives Matter!

That's quite extreme isn't it, and more unusual to save one for himself. I assumed it was gang stuff but perhaps not.

Can't be that shocking anymore judged by the lack of reaction on here.

Bring back the death penalty

He came from a country that has the death penalty, and it wouldn't have stopped this one, he topped himself.

* hopefully.

If they were trying to save the life of the murderer to send him for trial to be hung you could understand it. i can remember the shock throughout the nation when Harry Roberts and his accomplices murdered 3 police officers in 1966, he didn't get hung either, out of prison since 2014.

police cant stop and search anyone nowadays without someone putting it on  social media  and claiming its unlawfull..

Where was he from Saddo?

complete waste of NHS money,
on this ****.
LET HIM DIE!!!

As above the key is why wasn't he searched? If the reason was anything to do with BLM then that's the discussion that needs to be had. The pandering needs to stop.

Have they named him? They must know who he is?

Looks like he walked into station with shotgun? My angle on this is that if we did not make guns, there would be less deaths. Thats it, if you make them you deserve it!

Just look at America, what a crazy Nation, mass shootings the risk of mass shootings, and not one single move to have weapons banned and Arms factories closed. (Sick with greed)

Sri lankan heritage allegedly stewarts, I'm surprised by that if it is gang stuff, very few problems with Sri Lankans here
as far as I know.

The idea of no guns is good but criminals are hardly likely to hand theirs in.

No Arms, great in an ideal world, but never going to happen, at the end of the day any competent engineer could make a homemade gun.

Dawn Butler and Diane Abbot,will be pleased that the detainees rights were respected.

The shooter wanted to die and not face years of jail. Don't give scum what they want.
Save him and let him rot in jail. No belts

U would have thought If Sir Keir had spoken out about,Dawn Butler’s episode with the police,there would be more respect.

Sep 25, 2020 -- 12:03PM, stewarts rise wrote:

No Arms, great in an ideal world, but never going to happen, at the end of the day any competent engineer could make a homemade gun.

It is simple really, the only reason we don't have the anarchy of America is because they are banned in this country a policy well worth keeping but I would say that we should not make them and sell them.

tanglefoot25 Sep 20 12:09
Dawn Butler and Diane Abbot,will be pleased that the detainees rights were respected.


Along with plenty of the left who seem to think that EVERY stop and search is racial profiling and racist. Personally, the MET should just stop doing them and watch murders, rapes and violent crimes go up and then tell the likes of Abbott this is what you called for and the blood is on your hands. Only then, maybe the Police will be able to do what they need to do with no repercussions.

Just the other day a black woman (Leader of the Oxford BLM) on a microphone was calling the Police terrorists and the same as the KKK and then shouting "black power" - the irony of comparing the Police to the KKK and then shouting that, how stupid is this woman. If someone can tell me how this isn't an offence I would like to know why, as change the word from black to white and it is suddenly racial hatred and a custodial sentence. We have a black comedienne saying "kill whitey" on the BBC, but that's also ok...

Where is the equality there?

That is part of the distraction from the failure of Capitalism.

Lives matter would have meant bigger protests for sure, but all that means nothing in the real world where Families within business continue to look after their own family and friends, that is a much bigger problem for the poor of all colours in the world.

Especially whites, for decades now Blacks ,Indians etc have been given privileged  upgrades in opportunity, mainly to cover the Family goings on.

Inverted racism is being used to distract our attention from the failure of capitalism? The people behind BLM are Marxists, they would focus our attention on the failure of capitalism, not distract from it.

Yes, not saying the virus is not real, merely that the 3 months wait between watching China close down, and ordering China to close down makes one suspect the Capitalists trying to make good of bad in their own minds, which must be very scared right now.

F@ck me Metro John, you know how to change the course of a thread don't you!

metro john • September 25, 2020 12:40 PM BST
That is part of the distraction from the failure of Capitalism.

fook me, this thread 

Let's hope they use the mathematical tool of turning two negatives into a plus?  the system needs some sort of Disney like creative input. FOR REAL

Does anyone on here actually know anything about the perpetrator ?  BBC certainly won't tell us.

Does anyone on here actually know anything about the perpetrator ?  BBC certainly won't tell us.

Sorry , daft wi fi ,posted twice!

keystone cops never handcuffed him

known to plod on terror watch list

Just reading that the suspect (still unnamed) had his hands cuffed behind his back when firing. How is that possible? Sounds like something out of Jonathan Creek.

like that fbi agent with the glasses unlocking cuffs in  THE FUGITIVE

police officer trying to detain a suspect has been shot dead, reportedly while taking the man's temperature. while undergoing a standard coronavirus temperature check, the handcuffed suspect managed to pull a gun from his trousers and shoot the officer …

So many humans don't care about other humans lives or their own today,so sad. RIP

i,ll say it 1st and take the flak
be uproar if it goes down as covid related

Ridiculous comments on here

You have to question where he hid / why they didn't find the gun , but this mornings American headlines where crazy Kamala ( another notch on the bedpost Harris) is praising the riots that resulted in the shooting of two police officers this week as "'essential for the evolution of our country"

You have to wonder about species. The first man was an Ethiopean 2.8 million years ago yet they still live in mud huts today and the first American was supposed to be 130,000 years ago yet only a few hundred years go they lived in wigwams. Civilisations were in and around Europe 5000 years ago. It does make you wonder. Are some peoples better at building civilisations and civilised living that others? Just a thought.

Yes, they clearly are. The mistake in Europe was in expecting third world newcomers to morph into Europeans very quickly. We're into 4th generation Pakistanis in Bradford, and it looks more like Karachi every year.

Sep 26, 2020 -- 10:54AM, brigust1 wrote:

You have to wonder about species. The first man was an Ethiopean 2.8 million years ago yet they still live in mud huts today and the first American was supposed to be 130,000 years ago yet only a few hundred years go they lived in wigwams. Civilisations were in and around Europe 5000 years ago. It does make you wonder. Are some peoples better at building civilisations and civilised living that others? Just a thought.

All depends how you are defining "civilisations".

Do you equate civilisation with steel structures only?

How about quality of life?

And btw, Ethiopeans don't all live in mud huts.

You're also missing a big piece of the puzzle called colonization

We are where we are and they are behind because we raoed, murdered and stole from these poor places and got a 500 year head start ffs

Quality of life is better here obviously. I don't see any white men drowning in the med try to get to Africa.

RIP the poor copper.
Who would want their job?
Keyboard warriors on here?

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26 Sep 20 11:32
Sep 25, 2020 -- 12:09PM, tanglefoot wrote:

Dawn Butler and Diane Abbot,will be pleased that the detainees rights were respected.


Stfu you old Tory ****


TBF they are both anti Police and anti white, their bile against all coppers being racist help towards some of the issues between the Police and "their" communities that they don't live in, I doubt they even care about a dead white copper. Probably more worried that the Police racially motivated stopped and searched someone (delete if the person was white as that doesn't count and is fine). I wouldn't bring race into it, but these people bring race into everything, so thought it was down to equality.

Sep 26, 2020 -- 11:47AM, Jumping-cuckoo-monk wrote:

Quality of life is better here obviously. I don't see any white men drowning in the med try to get to Africa.

Was referring to previous civilisations.

This is simply a brief moment in time. People have always migrated for whatever reason.

ok, thanks

Only found out about this in the early hours of this morning and there seems scant detail as to what actually happened and probably going to be the case whilst the internal investigation continues.I am astounded that a suspect has smuggled a loaded weapon into a custody suite,in the MET of all forces.Other than the control room,custody should be safest area of a nick.

Someone has screwed up,that is obvious and tragically cost an officer his life,I have had prisoners try to conceal all sorts of items in all sorts of places on their person including guns but a proper search revealed most before transporting them.A further more thorough search within custody before anything else was standard,including strip search if drugs or weapons were suspected.

Something has gone drastically wrong and only speculating that a bloody covid test might have given the scrote the chance to do what he did i.e before a second search.There should also have been at least one officer present on the prisoners side of the counter,were they standing away from the prisoner as covid protocol?

It is pertinent because the prisoner managed to get off 5 shots at the sergeant and then one at himself,where was/were the arresting officer (s) when this was happening? It takes a fair few seconds to squeeze off 5 rounds,even from a revolver which I am guessing was probably the type of weapon used especially if the prisoner was cuffed in the front stack position.The how and why he got the weapon into the custody area will be the first thing internal will want to know,all the rest will be obvious as it will be on CCTV with audio.

Even assuming there was only one other officer on the prisoners side of the counter,was there any attempt to tackle the scrote after the first or second shot?

I don't know protocol, but if someone firing shots surely the wrong to do is "tackle the scrote" and risk more lives.

Not really SQ,if the scrote was firing forward he was obviously facing forward and close to the counter,he would also be aiming an upward trajectory unless he was exceptionally tall.Assuming the arresting officer (s) were to the side or behind all would take was a shove in the back to stop the shooting? Obviously just speculating but it is how I once disarmed a suspect who tried to pull a weapon whist being searched against our van.

Apparently Glen he had the gun hidden in the back of his trousers, was handcuffed behind his back, he was outside the main custody area and the Custody Sergeant had come out to take his temperature when the man bent forward, pulled his gun out, turned and let off 5 shots into the Sergeants chest. The two arresting officers jumped on him and forced him to the ground whilst he let off two more shots, one of which shot himself, barbaric scumbag.

That makes sense stew,I was speculating on how I envisaged the usual procedure.It is weird though how he could have got off so many shots if handcuffed behind not to mention conceal the weapon well enough for it to be missed on the initial search? Also if he fired 7 shots it sounds like a semi auto as a revolver only holds 5 or 6 rounds,if that is the case it must have been cocked and safety off,would not have been a small weapon if the case.

I'm sure the area must have been covered by CCTV,

Good god Toby now claiming all sorts of things. Clearly mentally ill and in need of urgent help.

I would assume and hope you are correct Oldgit,not much chance of this being strangely lost because of external circumstances.Two officers now at home worrying like hell,on suspension and rightly so imo without even knowing the full circumstances.

Many questions to be asked and answered and not least why the Custody Sergeant was out of his "Area" and who authorised this,was it SOP because of covid or a local directive?

Bottom line is that at least two officers failed,the rest has to be looking up the ladder to who decided the protocol?

sounds like a lapse of safety sadly , assuming cuffs were enough till strip search

and difficult to believe given recent rises in mental issues and terrorism

controlled explosion in a rural area this morning regarding this case.

what day is the plm march planned for ?

brigust...first man was adam in the garden of eden 6,000 years ago...where did you get 2.8 million??

Name and shame the real scum, those that make and sell weapons, the Gun manufactures, in the uk and the rest of the world, these are the real criminals, and people prefer not to look, I say Look, Free Julian Assange, arrest Trump for assassination, and more to the point arrest those Manufacturers of Guns etc, they laugh in the background, well we are coming for you know, we walk alone!

I read a lot of bolloc ks off people too blind to see the truth.

Had forgotten about this and only been in UK for a few hours when the trial came on the news.A senior Met officer hailing the two arresting officers as heroes?

Sounded like a spin on a complete and utter c0ck up that cost an officer his life imo,the start and some content of this thread highlights the danger of relying on unsubstantiated claims by the media?

No offence to stewarts btw,he just repeated what was known as news broke.

Shot by a mentally ill Contortionist

He may or not have been mentally ill casemoney,makes no difference in searching him? The fact the Met have not blamed Covid protocols for the events makes it even more concerning that two officers who failed in their duty are hailed as heroes imo?

Btw and after the fact tbf,I mentioned him maybe being cuffed in the front stack position,had he been he would never have reached the weapon.

Just watching again on the news,diabolocal inaction by the two arresting officers,heroes my arse,idiots at best!

Nobody trained would have missed a gun of that size on even a basic body search,forget the ammo they did find!!