bookmakers

one there and one near parade ring.

i didnt think bookmakers were allowed on course yet

2 week trial.maximum of 2.

ok thanksribero1

both same prices ..

Aug 18, 2020 -- 2:51PM, hulk23 wrote:

both same prices ..

Multiply by 10 and still the same prices.

Slaves to betfair.

hope you are all enjoying the industry starting prices to those on here !!!! not much being said against them i.m.o. why not ?????

Hmm I wonder...maybe because we are posting on forum of the worlds biggest betting exchange that generates prices via market forces that effectively take a dump on both your board prices and the industry SP prices? NAP Infact....I know they do...because you lot all fetch your prices from here

Anyone not wanting 100s and 100s on can get it on here quite easily with patience.

Have a nice day.

first race winner at stratford ......7.38 sp on here industry sp 7/2 ..with bookmakers on track would of been available at no less than 5/1 to decent money on many boards ....have a nice day !!!! ...keyboard warriors and mugs who have never enjoyed a DAY at the races .....

Stop being a pratt, see you two or three times a week up North and your fellow sheep when we get back going again.

Dont forget to bring your computer and its green up button!

See you soon, where I can enjoy having a bet pre race to 102% on my rag and bone.

iS THAT aDAGE?

40,000 x everyones fivers,tenner,s and twentys,circulating at 2,3 meetings on a saturday never going to happen anytime soon, sadly

ass jennings said on course cash is course bookmakers only USP, and without it his no 1 pitch is worthless,

It sounds like I am bang against course bookmakers, I am not, I am just against their current offerings, completely useless imo.

imagine them 2 bookmakers at about 3 10 if mick tabor walks up,

Aug 19, 2020 -- 2:39PM, 1st time poster wrote:

imagine them 2 bookmakers at about 3 10 if mick tabor walks up,

" 2 seconds -Let me check the machine"

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like 2 turkey,s when bernard mathews walks up wanting one for the xmas dinner table,

have your fun but those two bookmakers at york would lay any bet to lose 20k without even blinking on any day

Industry SP's represent a blatant conflict of interests. If and when the oncourse market returns if this element is not part of the SP returns it will be an absolute disgrace.

Adge I have known and bet with Joe for many many years looked at his computer  many a time and can honestly say I have seen many  flashing red lights.
hope you are well.
have a good day
regards
Ronnie.

ps the bathroom looks lovely.

try getting more than a couple of hundred with any online bookmaker. far more chance with a bookmaker on course. what swaddle (in his bookie bashing ignorance) fails to realise is that on course bookmakers did not invent exchanges. as exchanges are here then they have to be guided by them now. if not they will get filled in by arbers.

Although I'm an exchange backer myself I think this thread is unfair to on course bookmakers considering their expenses and what they're up against these days.

Good points dominuet and sparrow. Punters who want a bet to a sum that far exceeds the liquidity on offer on the Exchange will always get accommodated on course, at competitive prices, provided they know which bookmakers to ask - and most of these punters do know who to ask !!

good points well made fellas ...providing a service and trying to run a decent on course business and feeding ones families seems to be the green light to stay at home trolls to jump on bandwagons they know feck all about ....and as for me greening up anytime soon good luck with that one .....most of us wouldnt use exchanges in a heart beat ...worst thing to happen in my lifetime of on course working ...

I believe dave exchanges being allowed on curse was decided by one person's deciding vote. Things could have been oh so different.

agreed democrat mate ...on small margins ...one way or another ... good luck and lets hope we areall back soon x

I punt with the on course bookies most days when racing which is most days, as some on here know I travel over to the U.K. several times a year , many years ago at Sedgefield when the electric boards first came out I asked a bookie for a £300 to £900 bet, he refused and the price on his board went to 11/4 again I asked for a bet of £300 @ 11/4 again I was refused and amazingly his board then went to 5/2 . The horse fell at the last when in contention , so the next time I'm in that part of the World I shall come on here and ask the names of bookies that Actually DO take a bet...

Interesting post workrider and I am sure you will understand that naming the names of those prepared to lay your bets is somewhat sensitive. I am unaware of which bookies stand at Sedgefield but I am confident, without looking at the list, a willing layer exists. Do you venture further South where my knowledge of the layers is more certain ? Hopefully you will soon be able to discriminate between the triers and non-triers
in the bookmaking ranks enabling you to successfully place your bets.

Democrat, thanks for the heads up.

well it wouldnt be me or the firms i work for ...cant take enough of these kind of bets workrider i do bet at sedgefield be great to see/hear from ya in the future cheers dd

i'd bet with you if you had dozy, beaky mick or tich working with you

Thanks Dave d , will remember call put a call out next time I'm over which is hopefully Sept or Oct , it will be interesting to see the fixture list, Democrat, I race all over the U.K.trying to finish all the courses and only have 8 more to visit..

how many have you been banned from?

at york j huddlestone taken £7k on the 4 days,lost £1500, turner taken £4500,won £1800,  can't make it pay on those figures.

Well what about Turner if he won £1800?

Who is Turner ?

Perhaps he will tell us eventually.

didnt quite catch what he said on wedensday,s interview,but were they allowed to take cash bets ?

Yes cash bets were taken,only 10 card bets all week between the 2 bookmakers.

did i hear them say that business got worse each day,if so do they think this was due to weather

Think it was Keith Johnson not Turner. I think he said he was up at the start of Saturday so don't know if he had a losing Saturday. Wonder if York charged them the usual multiple for admission?

None of the "trials" will be much good as its purely owners only and when you think about it the big meetings will be the worst as the owners will mostly consist of big international owners,more chance at a small meeting where the local owner will bring his mates with him and more syndicates,also York will have put on a very good spread for them and no reason to come out,there was a Hills shop on site,on thursday they did 8 bets and friday 6!
Hi Manoleeds,no charge to stand fortunately.

Ribero
did York as the 2 bookmakers if they would like to stand at the October meeting.
have a good day
regards
Ronnie.

Nothing yet Ronnie,presumably they will be hoping for some sort of a crowd by then.

Interesting to read your comments ribero. Sanity was restored with cash bets being allowed. Knowing that business was likely to very moderate it was good that you and KJ were prepared to stand and to illustrate that bookmakers should be present at all meetings when circumstances allow.

Interesting to read your comments ribero. Sanity was restored with cash bets being allowed. Knowing that business was likely to very moderate it was good that you and KJ were prepared to stand and to illustrate that bookmakers should be present at all meetings when circumstances allow.

Hi Democrat,going forward lots of books will no doubt get the card machines yet they will surely be a waste of money as definitely not enough business if nearly everyone has one,think those who have had them previously found them viable because of their scarcity but when the ring becomes flooded with them a completely different story.

didnt think cash betting was allowed,presumably when racegoers are allowed back ,cash will be allowed at turnstiles, cafes,bars,etc,etc

pictures from deauville looks rammed

Cash betting allowed from last Tuesday though Bar was card only at Fontwell

Hi Ribero.Interesting staff member,surely not that desperate.

Agree about card machines.More exes for something that is a waste of time.ITV kept pushing the difference between oncourse and firm prices but i think this will have  pushed the people who are happy to use cards more down the phone route.Oncourse is cash,cash,cash.

Hi Regit,not having a card machine myself he was the provider in that department,one big happy family.

around 2000 the new computer software and print out tickets on course saw reluctance to accept them on course by the old school but they soon realized they had to compete and all eventually had to have them, similar here all will have to have card machines the difference is the crowds will never be like it once was due imo of never been able to find a covid cure just like the common cold.
Most businesses are having to change and having to take cards and pay out in cash seems one way forward just a different way of doing things

Agree about the computers coming in 2000 most of us were a bit wary of them but it was forced upon us and hold my hand up they were right and we were wrong about them.The card machine is a totally different matter how many times does a problem happen when making a purchase or even the systems going down? In my opinion far too much for course bookmakers to negotiate when working to a limited timescale.Also it will cost extra money for us to use and for a smalltime layer as myself may not be viable in an ever decreasing market

see that 11 bookmakers will be able to stand at the warwick meeting on sept 21st, any news on how many can stand at doncaster/newmarket?