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Watching BBC World news this morning and it strikes me that the UK going into recession could be one of the biggest financial disasters in history given the covid pandemic and Brexit on the horizon.What chance of any worthwhile deal with the EU now that any country willing to trade can virtually hold the UK to ransom,things are not too great in Europe but at least the EU have bargaining power .
The whole situation could be disastrous for Racing in the UK at a time when ownership of horses was already in decline due to the pandemic,I hope I am wrong but it just seems obvious that the industry is going to suffer unprecedented changes which will never be rectified for several generations,if ever.
Time for the Government to be tackled head on by the BHA et al to start getting people back on courses before the inevitable happens e.g closures,trainers going out of business,bloodstock and associated services going bankrupt.It beggars belief that thousands of people are allowed to pack onto beaches,untraceable and unregulated and without doubt spreading the virus which is 1.01 going to see a spike within just a few weeks as a result.
It may already be too late for the industry to survive as we know it,even in it's present state.At least getting people back on courses might mitigate some of the financial damage coming.Surely must be the best option for sport to start with racing where enforcing covid regulations is relatively simple and a track and trace policy makes more sense than the population at large congregating as if the virus no longer exists.
Thoughts?
The whole situation could be disastrous for Racing in the UK at a time when ownership of horses was already in decline due to the pandemic,I hope I am wrong but it just seems obvious that the industry is going to suffer unprecedented changes which will never be rectified for several generations,if ever.
Time for the Government to be tackled head on by the BHA et al to start getting people back on courses before the inevitable happens e.g closures,trainers going out of business,bloodstock and associated services going bankrupt.It beggars belief that thousands of people are allowed to pack onto beaches,untraceable and unregulated and without doubt spreading the virus which is 1.01 going to see a spike within just a few weeks as a result.
It may already be too late for the industry to survive as we know it,even in it's present state.At least getting people back on courses might mitigate some of the financial damage coming.Surely must be the best option for sport to start with racing where enforcing covid regulations is relatively simple and a track and trace policy makes more sense than the population at large congregating as if the virus no longer exists.
Thoughts?
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I stopped reading at BBC tbf. They want to cause as much division as possible before they are defunded and forced to serve fodder that people actually want to pay for.
Are you surprised we're going into a recession after thw country has been locked down for months? I would have thought all countries who locked down will be suffering? Can't see that this will have any bearing on brexit personally.
UK GDP fell by 20.4%, a bad number without question, but it was expected and actually a little less than economists had forecast. Most EU countries are in recession caused by the Covid-19 lock-downs anyway, some more than others, but Boris didn't handle the situation well at all (longer lock-downs than most). On a positive note UK GDP rose 8.6% in June.
There are arguments on both sides for Brexit and it's far too early to suggest it will be a disaster, we are still the 6th largest economy in the world and a major trading nation. EU need us as much as we need them and a trade war is not good for either party.
Personally i'm not affected significantly as i left UK in 1984. All it means in future is getting a work permit if i want to remain in Europe (that i don't need now). I have permitted residency in Sweden and Germany anyway and that isn't going to change, in the worst case i could easily get a Swedish passport, although i don't have plans to.
There are arguments on both sides for Brexit and it's far too early to suggest it will be a disaster, we are still the 6th largest economy in the world and a major trading nation. EU need us as much as we need them and a trade war is not good for either party.
Personally i'm not affected significantly as i left UK in 1984. All it means in future is getting a work permit if i want to remain in Europe (that i don't need now). I have permitted residency in Sweden and Germany anyway and that isn't going to change, in the worst case i could easily get a Swedish passport, although i don't have plans to.
The BBC ceased representing the nation as a whole when they backed a brexit runner. Not in their remit to take a side and they alienated half their paying viewers by doing so. I look forward to their demise.
Andrew - Trade will always find a way. Whether it's better or worse after Brexit fully kicks in is still to be seen, but your statement about getting a work permit in Europe is what really makes Brexit a disaster for many Brits. Applying for a work permit is so that you can get a job - be employed by a European company. Brexit stripped the right of 'establishment' from UK citizens. The right to move and start a business or to operate as self-employed in any member state. That's now gone. Why would anyone vote to throw away their rights? Of course the answer is simple. Leave voters would never think of either themselves or their kids as having the balls to branch out and take advantage of that opportunity so they despise Europeans from other member states coming to the UK to do just that. Look at the rhetoric this week from the Tory MPs calling migrants crossing the channel 'invaders'. 4,000 this year have arrived seeking asylum. 4,000!! Net migration from the EU was just 60,000 per year pre-Brexit Ref. For that source to push up UK population by 10% would take 110 years. Now EU migration falls to be replaced by high non-EU migration from increasingly India and China - 300,000+ per year - yet the Tories still want to bring in the Royal Navy to stop 4,000 human beings - including unaccompanied children - instead of looking properly at other, more humanitarian actions. Brexit will be a total success for those that bankrolled it. No doubt about it. The UK was sold a lie but it won't matter to the rich backers. They don't care about the damage done to the rest of us. Rant over.
would imagine most countries will suffer
financially,packed beaches,been talked
about before on here.
Thought there was a political forum.
financially,packed beaches,been talked
about before on here.
Thought there was a political forum.
I don't know how many losers were backed yesterday but we must move on so isn't it time we moved on and got behind our country moving forward? Trying to guess why Boris made the decisions he made and makes is useless because we weren't privy to them so making easy claims is just that, easy. I don't know how many deaths have been counted in other countries but I do know that no-one knows what the future holds moving forward. I never voted for this government but I am wholeheartedly behind them because anything else is not only pointless but a waste of my time. I will judge them after their tenure and make my decision again. That is democracy and many people in the world wish they had the same.
I agree with Penzance. The idiot who started this thread should have done so on the Politics Forum where it belongs.
Penzance and Tigger,does a debate of affects on racing and return of spectators not count as a racing subject in your bedsits? Moronic comments from low IQ trolls with no interest or knowledge of anything to do with the sport or industry!!! NAP
troll you,would'nt waste my time.
You spout utter b0llux.
You spout utter b0llux.
Penzance even in my impaired condition you would not have the ability to hold a coherent debate,hence your juvenile comments prove that you are simply a troll!!!
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I blame the BBC for starting the 2nd World War also.
My guess is that the BBC supported the whole of this country during the war. Not half of it, whilst trying to shiv the other half.
Replies: 3452112 Aug 20 10:54
I blame the BBC for starting the 2nd World War also.
My guess is that the BBC supported the whole of this country during the war. Not half of it, whilst trying to shiv the other half.
The BBC is not impartial, everyone knows that by now. They didn't want Brexit and the don't want Trump. The best thing that could happen would be to get this Brexit palaver out of the way and for Trump to win again. Just to prove their bias doesn't work.
Some of the people on this thread belong in the 1930s with such attitudes.
They are a rancid organisation Brig,only reason I mentioned them was it was where I heard the news of UK officially confirming recession.
To the OP I don't understand what the immenent global recession has to do with horse racing.
Also, folks have been cramming onto the beaches for weeks now, wouldn't we have seen a spike by now if they were spreading it?
Also, folks have been cramming onto the beaches for weeks now, wouldn't we have seen a spike by now if they were spreading it?
Whatever you say laying but how you fail to see how racing will not be affected is baffling,re-your beaches,that comment was also to question why people cannot be allowed to attend racecourses in a controlled environment when mass unregulated gatherings are taking place?
Total agree re attending racecourses, I've been saying for weeks how on earth can you go and sit inside a pub all day but you can't attend a racecourse outside in the fresh air, makes no sense at all.
Just as Britain have the worst shrinkage of the economy for the covid period, they have effectively the worst death rates (Belgium over count deaths per 100,000) and now brexit has a close to zero chance of an agreement.
Some economists are suggesting ruining the economy was par for the course to hide the extent of one disastrous handling by this government from the other.
Some economists are suggesting ruining the economy was par for the course to hide the extent of one disastrous handling by this government from the other.
If Trump doesn't win, the U.S. voter will be consigning the western world to a future of utterly wet, damagingly liberal, transgender, pangender, non-mangender minority rule ( and dictatorship ). Biden is a piece of chit compared to the Donald.
Mary Trump's book is on Youtube, I was going to listen to it lastnight but then I remembered
I don't give the first f uck if even his own family detest him
I don't give the first f uck if even his own family detest him
The BBC is not impartial, everyone knows that by now. They didn't want Brexit and the don't want Trump. The best thing that could happen would be to get this Brexit palaver out of the way and for Trump to win again. Just to prove their bias doesn't work.---Absolutely completely biased. They take a view on on any subject (whether its right or wrong) and manipulate all their news and comment to support it. You just have to look at global warming to realise that. They always seem to me to support the establishment--but that just an opinion.
Brexit will have no additional affect on the economic future.
You intimate that if the UK had stayed IN the EU - Then everything would have been hunky-dorey.
In case you had not noticed - Italy, Spain and most other European countries have been hit EQUALLY as hard as the UK has - and will be - in (Un)employment terms.
As for the - "BHA et all"- to "tackle the Government head on" ...... Dream on.
The vast majority of the British Public (and that would number well over 60 million) could not give two hoots about Horse Racing - let alone the Government.
" .....getting people back on courses before the inevitable happens e.g closures,trainers going out of business,bloodstock and associated services going bankrupt" - will have NO effect whatsoever on the BUSINESS decisions of (multi-)millionaire Breeders and Owners, etc.
Horse Racing - along with a load of p!ssheads on a 'jolly boy's outing' - or over-dolled up girls/women going to a 'Ladies Day' ... is 'a million' in the grand scheme of things
EVERYBODY has got far bigger fish to fry at the moment.
You intimate that if the UK had stayed IN the EU - Then everything would have been hunky-dorey.
In case you had not noticed - Italy, Spain and most other European countries have been hit EQUALLY as hard as the UK has - and will be - in (Un)employment terms.
As for the - "BHA et all"- to "tackle the Government head on" ...... Dream on.
The vast majority of the British Public (and that would number well over 60 million) could not give two hoots about Horse Racing - let alone the Government.
" .....getting people back on courses before the inevitable happens e.g closures,trainers going out of business,bloodstock and associated services going bankrupt" - will have NO effect whatsoever on the BUSINESS decisions of (multi-)millionaire Breeders and Owners, etc.
Horse Racing - along with a load of p!ssheads on a 'jolly boy's outing' - or over-dolled up girls/women going to a 'Ladies Day' ... is 'a million' in the grand scheme of things
EVERYBODY has got far bigger fish to fry at the moment.
"Brexit will have no additional affect on the economic future".? That's rich.
Remind us of that when lorries are stacked up at the channel tunnel, full of whatever produce, without the necessary paperwork to progress - either way. Or when French lorries blockade their end, as they are wont to do, because something has got up their nose. It'll be some economic future when people can't get basic foodstuffs, medicines, essentials. Remember the fighting in the supermarkets at the tail end of the diesel lorries strike and work to rule? Well you can magnify that by any factor you want when this disaster is facilitated by these self-interested ministers. And I believe that day will come because this bungling bunch on the government front bench simply don't know what they are doing.
Remind us of that when lorries are stacked up at the channel tunnel, full of whatever produce, without the necessary paperwork to progress - either way. Or when French lorries blockade their end, as they are wont to do, because something has got up their nose. It'll be some economic future when people can't get basic foodstuffs, medicines, essentials. Remember the fighting in the supermarkets at the tail end of the diesel lorries strike and work to rule? Well you can magnify that by any factor you want when this disaster is facilitated by these self-interested ministers. And I believe that day will come because this bungling bunch on the government front bench simply don't know what they are doing.
the world has been in trouble eva since i came into it - it will survive long afta we are gone
getova it and move on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x2PvC_PybY
getova it and move on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x2PvC_PybY
The Brits allowed into Greece at the end of last month
Taberna drsught beer went up two euros in places
Gyros and souvalacki up in price as well
Noise level at beach up....
fat bald drunks with tatoos now in abundance
along with vicky pollards asking what time
does the highly advertised club sanwichee open ...
Taberna drsught beer went up two euros in places
Gyros and souvalacki up in price as well
Noise level at beach up....
fat bald drunks with tatoos now in abundance
along with vicky pollards asking what time
does the highly advertised club sanwichee open ...
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