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21 Jun 20 17:43
Date Joined: 12 Mar 02
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Hi Richard. So you think Donno di Dio is a Welsh bred then? Donno di Dai-O. It's simple enough. It means gift of God in Italian. You ought to check out your pronunciation of Archimento too. That's also Italian. Why don't you ask somebody before you just jump in with your own ideas?
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Report blackbarn June 21, 2020 9:18 PM BST
This is exactly the kind of pompous self-righteous post that stopped Richard posting on here.  It is of course easy to make mistakes as you have ably demonstrated by misspelling Dono.
Report onlooker June 21, 2020 9:25 PM BST
A slip of the Quill by Rudyard
Report blackbarn June 21, 2020 9:37 PM BST
Onlooker...."A hand was stretched to the goose-quill, a fist was cramped to scrawl",
The pity was, this Kipling bloke really knew f uck all.
Report onlooker June 21, 2020 10:05 PM BST
I did not hear the initial reference - so I cannot, and would noit anyway, comment upon it.

However - It has led to some interesting research

DONO DI DIO  - was Bred by Neswells Stud - in Hertfordshire

The Stud is now owned by the Jacobs family - of renowned German/Swiss billionaire Food & Beverages origin.

The Stud was established in 1926 by prominent racehorse owner - Sir Humphrey de Trafford.

The history of NEWSELLS MANOR House is fascinating [b]...

[b]The Domesday Book (1086) valued Newsells at £6
when it was owned by Eudo Dapifer, the steward to William the Conqueror.

Eudo owned many other manors and it is unlikely that he looked upon Newsells as one of his major holdings.

In the Middle Ages, Newsells was owned by the de Scales family.
Lord de Scales was important enough to be mentioned by Joan of Arc in a letter.
He was a fighter of great passion (he fought until the English were ejected from France) and probably used Newsells as somewhere to stop between his homes in Norfolk and London.  Ultimately he was murdered by Londoners who hated him.

His daughter and heiress, Elizabeth, married Sir Anthony Wydville, brother of Edward IV's Queen.
  Elizabeth died childless but her husband kept Newsells and became Lord de Scales before he was beheaded by partisans of the Duke of Gloucester, (who later became Richard III).

Richard gave the Manor to the Duke of Norfolk, but he was killed with Richard at Bosworth. Henry VII gave the estate to the Earl of Oxford, who had fought on the winning side at Bosworth and who, like the late Duke of Norfolk, was descended from a de Scales daughter.

The Obelisk at Newsells Park was erected by Sir Hugh Rose, later Lord Strathnairn, in memory of his favourite charger, which had carried him well during the Indian Mutiny.

It is said that Lord Strathnairn found many gardeners and few grooms when he inherited the estate.
Being a 'hunting man', he sacked most of the gardeners and increased the number of grooms.

One morning he was so irritated by the poor state of the gardens that he told the head-gardener that he had 'had better men than him shot before breakfast'.
The gardener promptly knocked him to the ground.

His lordship got up and informed the gardener that he was a better man than he had thought and that he deserved more help in the gardens!   Grin

John Leech, who illustrated the books written by Surtees, spent considerable time hunting close to Barkway and Newsells. Many of the country scenes sketched for Surtees' 'Jorrocks' books show the landscape of Newsells and indeed, 'Jorrocks' himself was based on Colonel Clinton's coachman.
Clinton owned the adjacent estate of Cokenach and Leech is said to have sketched the coachman during a long, boring sermon in Barkway Church.

Sir Humphrey de Trafford and his family owned Newsells from 1926 to 1972. During their time, the original house was burnt down.
It is said that the place was full of female military personnel, and that Sir Humphrey's agent had noticed in a visit that there were several kettles on each electric outlet!

Fortunately, the agent made sure that the property was soundly insured and the proceeds from the insurance company covered the cost of rebuilding the house.

Sir Humphrey established Newsells Park Stud in 1926.
Among his successes was breeding the 1959 Derby winner, Parthia. It was said that, to commemorate the victory, Sir Humphrey gave members of his family items of jewellery in his red and white racing colours.

Newsells and the surrounding countryside have always had a close relationship with equine pursuits.
Newsells Park Stud continues this heritage.
Report TheCoat June 22, 2020 12:41 PM BST
Now that is an example of how to turn a very bad thread into a very good thread.

  Well done onlooker.
Report sparrow June 22, 2020 12:54 PM BST
And well done to blackbarn too.
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