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Willie Shafter.
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Report carrot1960 January 31, 2020 1:56 PM GMT
runner up got to get it in the stewards room
Report tomhunt January 31, 2020 1:56 PM GMT
hmmmm
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 1:56 PM GMT
if recent stewards are anything to go by this could get overturned
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 1:56 PM GMT
2nd closing at the line, short head
Report tomhunt January 31, 2020 1:57 PM GMT
still no head on, oh let's go to a break, fooking useless
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 1:57 PM GMT
tin pot channel
Report grayhawk January 31, 2020 1:57 PM GMT
Sky might show a head on tomorrow Angry....or after they've weighed in
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2020 1:58 PM GMT
no hd on but winner defo hmp 2nd..
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2020 1:58 PM GMT
no hd on but winner defo hmp 2nd..
Report tomhunt January 31, 2020 1:58 PM GMT
and betfair settle
Report elise January 31, 2020 1:58 PM GMT
will they call a stewards ?
Report jamesdean January 31, 2020 1:58 PM GMT
betfair settled market already, absolute clowns whatever happens
Report elise January 31, 2020 1:59 PM GMT
stewards it is
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 1:59 PM GMT
more commission for betfairy Plain
Report RacingLuck January 31, 2020 1:59 PM GMT
stewards open
Report john92 January 31, 2020 2:00 PM GMT
Under CATTERICK keep the race ffs
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:00 PM GMT
and they go to the paddock @ lingfield ffs
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2020 2:00 PM GMT
Catterick - Keep The Race?

pmsl
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:01 PM GMT
is there anybody in this industry that can actually do something right
Report carrot1960 January 31, 2020 2:01 PM GMT
Almost even money the pair ,has to go
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2020 2:02 PM GMT
if the winner has went left before the last it has to get disq..but,has it?
Report differentdrum January 31, 2020 2:02 PM GMT
Bonkers if that is overturned. Second had every chance from the last but bungled it. That's why he lost. A few weeks ago this wouldn't have been a discussion. Where do you stop? Minor bit of interference four out?
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:02 PM GMT
on the side on it looks that way but side on can be deceiving
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:03 PM GMT
overturned is fav
Report tomhunt January 31, 2020 2:03 PM GMT
lets show it when the catterick race is halfway hey
Report JJmbe January 31, 2020 2:04 PM GMT
keeps it looking at that.
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:04 PM GMT
defo a bump...looks like will be overturned
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2020 2:04 PM GMT
has winner went left before the last?
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:04 PM GMT
"before the last" is too far out according to hutchinson
pmsl
Report carrot1960 January 31, 2020 2:04 PM GMT
Winner nearly put the runner up into the chase fence
Report hasachance January 31, 2020 2:05 PM GMT
Winner is a cert to keep
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:07 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 8:05AM, hasachance wrote:


Winner is a cert to keep


a 4 figure sum available @ odds against for you to clear up then

Report Fourex January 31, 2020 2:07 PM GMT
Take the 2.3 the certainty then! Should be chucked
Report Levelsteakprophet January 31, 2020 2:07 PM GMT
absolute cert to keep imo
Report carrot1960 January 31, 2020 2:08 PM GMT
If you nhonestly think the winner trading at 2=40 is a certainty" to keep the race best to give the game up
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2020 2:08 PM GMT
i aint seen hd on but if winner has bmp 2nd before last it has to go.
Report RacingLuck January 31, 2020 2:08 PM GMT
will pay for tea Happy

Horse Racing > Chep 31st Jan : 2m Nov Hrd    Showing 1 - 4 of 4 Selections
Selection    Odds    Stake(£)    Bid type    Placed    Profit/loss(£)
Eden Du Houx    2.08    2.00    Back    31-Jan-20 13:51    2.16
Eden Du Houx    2.08    2.00    Lay    31-Jan-20 13:51    -2.16
Eden Du Houx    1.04    200.00    Lay    31-Jan-20 13:55    -8.00
Mario De Pail    3.95    20.00    Back    31-Jan-20 13:54    -20.00
*Average odds: On  Off    Back subtotal:    -17.84
Lay subtotal:    -10.16
Market subtotal:    -28.00
Commission :    0.00
Net Market Total:    -28.00
Report JJmbe January 31, 2020 2:08 PM GMT
All guessing but we will see worse before the day is out and nowt will happen.
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:09 PM GMT
2-3 years ago 2.3 to keep would be a decent bet but they have shown a recent tendency to overturn races similar to this
Report dustybin January 31, 2020 2:09 PM GMT
RL
Why you still putting the LV on?
Report hasachance January 31, 2020 2:10 PM GMT
Market closed on app I can’t see that getting overturned
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:10 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 8:08AM, Willie Shafter. wrote:


i aint seen hd on but if winner has bmp 2nd before last it has to go.


sky showed head on & 2nd was bumped

Report elise January 31, 2020 2:11 PM GMT
what's the verdict?
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND January 31, 2020 2:11 PM GMT
suspenders
Report elise January 31, 2020 2:12 PM GMT
some interesting money for the fptp to keep that late
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND January 31, 2020 2:12 PM GMT
AND THE RESULT IS.....
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2020 2:12 PM GMT
Weighed In
Report carrot1960 January 31, 2020 2:13 PM GMT
]shocking decision
Report elise January 31, 2020 2:13 PM GMT
that was known I think, runner up went 1.6, then they backed the fptp at the death
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:13 PM GMT
keeps it...good old BHA
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:14 PM GMT
protektorat race overturned & this 1 left alone
laughable really
Report hasachance January 31, 2020 2:14 PM GMT
As I said an absolute cert to keep
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 2:14 PM GMT
you must have cleaned up taking all the odds against
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2020 2:15 PM GMT
hasachance 31 Jan 20 14:14 
As I said an absolute cert to keep

tis easy wen no £ involved.
Report elise January 31, 2020 2:15 PM GMT
cert to keep yet 2nd was fav to get the decision, you must have made fortunes
Report ashleigh January 31, 2020 2:15 PM GMT
sky racing are useless.Crazy
Report ALIEN SEX FIEND January 31, 2020 2:15 PM GMT
Not saying the result is right or wrong, however, even on here we had wildly differing opinions.
Report JJmbe January 31, 2020 2:15 PM GMT
Backed the winner and couldn't bail out due to the drift in stewards, all guess work different track, different stewards different result, stuck up 1.5 early no bites.
Report elise January 31, 2020 2:18 PM GMT
unlucky jj I thought they'd be closer in the market than that, 2nd went shorter than I expected
Report hasachance January 31, 2020 2:18 PM GMT
Couldn’t access market on phone there was no betting on iPhone honestly thought odds against was crazy price especially in Uk where they hardly ever overturn decision
Report differentdrum January 31, 2020 2:19 PM GMT
Much ado about nothing.

The only surprise was that it took so long to confirm.

Had it gone the other way you just open up a huge can of worms. You could argue any slight interference wherever it took place could influence a result. The key here was that the second had time to recover.
Report RacingLuck January 31, 2020 2:21 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 8:09AM, dustybin wrote:


RLWhy you still putting the LV on?


because thats what i use? Confused

Report grayhawk January 31, 2020 2:22 PM GMT
Would have more helpful if SKY had shown the head on from 20-30 yards further back from where the interference took place ...but then what do you expect from a non specialist racing channel
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2020 2:26 PM GMT
because thats what i use?

atr tracks free yfdsc Wink
Report RacingLuck January 31, 2020 2:28 PM GMT
habit Tongue Out
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2020 2:30 PM GMT
Grin
Report Whippin Piccadilly January 31, 2020 2:45 PM GMT
Drum was on the fav...of course! The 2nd was almost pushed onto the chase course and then beaten a SH. How was the result not reversed?
Report Willie Shafter. January 31, 2020 2:51 PM GMT
didnt look like they moved that much side on..
Report Whippin Piccadilly January 31, 2020 3:02 PM GMT
2
shd
Runner Jacket
1. Mario De Pail (FR) 6/4
Sam Twiston-Davies
Sam Thomas
5    1110    –    –    –    –   
Tracked winner, ridden after 2 out, slightly hampered approaching last, stayed on run-in, just held (op 2/1)

2nd

sh
1
Mario De Pail
511-10
6/4
T: Sam ThomasJ: Sam Twiston-DaviesChased winner, hit 3rd and 2 out, every chance when carried left just before last, hard ridden, ran on op 2/1


Beaten 1/2L you'd say fair enough...the 2nd was beaten a sh. How was the result NOT reversed?
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 3:07 PM GMT
this 2nd enquiry is complete waste of time
Report JJmbe January 31, 2020 3:07 PM GMT
Free munee 1.1
Report asparagus January 31, 2020 3:08 PM GMT
Crazy to even have one. Winner followed the 2nd across
Report Deltâ January 31, 2020 3:10 PM GMT
I've back the 2nd home to get it Shocked
Report JJmbe January 31, 2020 3:10 PM GMT
Gone in again here, looks to good to be true.
Report JJmbe January 31, 2020 3:15 PM GMT
Best value bet i will get today  that's for sure.
Report carrot1960 January 31, 2020 3:28 PM GMT
Bumped twice ,intimidated from over two out till they jumped the gets beaten a sh hd and the stewrds do nothing , a certainty to be overturned on appeal
Report carrot1960 January 31, 2020 3:29 PM GMT
Race 2 - 1:50pm
THE CROWNHILL TOP SOIL/EBF 'NATIONAL HUNT' NOVICES' HURDLE RACE (CLASS 4) (Qualifier)

SHANTOU VOW (IRE) wore earplugs which were removed at the start.

An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference approaching the final hurdle, when the winner, EDEN DU HOUX (FR), ridden by Tom Scudamore, interfered with MARIO DE PAIL (FR), placed second, ridden by Sam Twiston-Davies. The Stewards considered that the interference had not improved EDEN DU HOUX (FR)’s placing as MARIO DE PAIL (FR) appeared to lose little momentum as a result of the interference, with the incident occurring approximately 1 furlong out, and although MARIO DE PAIL (FR) had closed to within a short head at the line, EDEN DU HOUX (FR) looked to be idling after pulling a few lengths clear after jumping the final hurdle. In addition, MARIO DE PAIL (FR) appeared to lose more ground with a slow jump at the final flight, which in the Stewards’ opinion was not caused by the interference, and they therefore ordered the placings remained unaltered. The interference was found to be accidental as EDEN DU HOUX (FR) had drifted slightly left-handed on the approach to the final hurdle whilst running greenly, resulting in MARIO DE PAIL (FR) being carried marginally off its intended line.



What a load of b0-ll0-x
Report Whippin Piccadilly January 31, 2020 3:36 PM GMT
Have you ever read such BS?
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 3:40 PM GMT
although MARIO DE PAIL (FR) had closed to within a short head at the line, EDEN DU HOUX (FR) looked to be idling after pulling a few lengths clear after jumping the final hurdle

whoever arrived at this verdict needs to be dismissed because the rules specifically state that no consideration should be given to what the offender is doing that hinders the chances of the offender ie hanging, idling etc
Report JJmbe January 31, 2020 3:41 PM GMT
Make it up as they go along, depends how much sherry has been drunk.
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 3:42 PM GMT
it seems that way
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 4:35 PM GMT
here we go again...
Report JJmbe January 31, 2020 4:36 PM GMT
looks like it
Report sofiakenny January 31, 2020 4:36 PM GMT
you sure?
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 4:37 PM GMT
winner has defo gone across caused bumper cars
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 4:37 PM GMT
heskin stick in the wrong hand
Report Deltâ January 31, 2020 4:37 PM GMT
not another won ...
Report knoxville January 31, 2020 4:38 PM GMT
no change
stewards only justifying their wages but still do nowt
Report JJmbe January 31, 2020 4:40 PM GMT
Second bottle of sherry will be sunk be now, probably just a blur that finish.
Report JJmbe January 31, 2020 4:46 PM GMT
No stewards says it all really.
Report wondersobright January 31, 2020 4:48 PM GMT
whoever is the head of stewarding at chepstow today should be sacked imo
Report Whippin Piccadilly January 31, 2020 5:03 PM GMT
Even though the stewards accepted there WAS interference, they've used their opinions not actual facts to come to their decision.
Report JJmbe January 31, 2020 5:07 PM GMT
If that was 1st or 2nd race would be different for sure.
Report tomhunt January 31, 2020 5:14 PM GMT
there was a guy called westropp on the panel today, he has been involved in some corkers, notably them stratford races

think he was stipe when calamity jane lost her job
Report duncan idaho January 31, 2020 9:21 PM GMT
agree, v poor show there today
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