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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.

How many selections must be made?

Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.

The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection

Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst substitutes can be offered at any point following all the usual rules, a failure to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.

What criteria do selections need to satisfy?

Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.

Are win and place markets settled in the same way?

Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.

When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)

A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry is posted on that day’s selections thread.

The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).

In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.

Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.

Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.

Entrants are more than welcome to offer a couple of substitutes if they know they will not be around to change any selections deemed void.Substitutes that qualify will then be used in the event of a void first choice.

Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-2mins of race time (so 12:00 race would need entry no later than 11:57am) on the given race day.

In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.

How are selections staked and returns calculated?

Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.

Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.

Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.

Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?

The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
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Report madhatter January 30, 2020 7:48 PM GMT
Bering Upsun - 15.05 Catterick please se

Congratulations and thank you for a well run and friendly competition.

Mad.
Report 11kv January 30, 2020 8:17 PM GMT
17.15 Newcastle Al Mayson

well done Striding excellent effort over the month,def change the rules to selection posted before the 1st race of the day to make the admin easier for you.Grin
Report cardenden January 30, 2020 8:19 PM GMT

Jan 30, 2020 -- 8:17PM, 11kv wrote:


17.15 Newcastle Al Mayson well done Striding excellent effort over the month,def change the rules to selection posted before the 1st race of the day to make the admin easier for you.


behave ,, you silly boy,,

Report 11kv January 30, 2020 8:20 PM GMT
Get off the thread you mug.
Report cardenden January 30, 2020 8:40 PM GMT
what a stupid thing to suggest,,ShockedShockedShockedShocked
Report uptheboro January 30, 2020 8:43 PM GMT
If i have any money left i will go for this one

Bowerman - 6.00 Dundalk

Cheers Striding
Report Deplasterer January 30, 2020 8:51 PM GMT
WD Striding, enjoyable comp, looking forward to Feb. Not about 2mor,but would be rude not to select, so post one now.

1.40 Lingfield, Headland place lay.

Ta.
Report stridingedge January 30, 2020 8:52 PM GMT
Cardy it's happening.

New rules will be posted on Saturday 1st Feb. Entries will have to be posted with up to 2 subs if desired 15 mins before the 1st race time.

I wouldn't continue doing it otherwise as a lot of hanging around late in the evening not knowing if anyone else is going to show and also I can set all the entries up in one go early and forget about it through the day.

Much much easier for me and every other comp will do such a thing.

anyway you only posted 1 selection and then left, are you coming back to us?
Report stridingedge January 30, 2020 8:53 PM GMT
*on Saturday's fred which will be up tomorrow evening.
Report madhatters January 30, 2020 8:56 PM GMT
Can't see what the plonker posts

But if giving you any gip Stride
Bin both the sisters
Everyone will back you in what is your comp, your rules
Don't like it
Walk
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 30, 2020 9:13 PM GMT
striding many thanks for all your work throughout the month, it's much appreciated. Won't be in the Feb comp but look forward to March.

GL all tomorrow

3.40 Catt Alohamora
Report angeleyz January 30, 2020 9:30 PM GMT
matewan - 4.15 newcastle place lay

ty striding and i echo everyones comments about how well run this comp has been
Report bustino January 30, 2020 9:58 PM GMT
Chocoholic - 7.15 Newcastle Place Lay please

An enjoyable comp extremely well administered and happy to comply to the new rules ......thanking you for the work you put in and well done to all participants....see u next month
Report invicta January 30, 2020 10:06 PM GMT
Ragnar  1.00 Catterick

thanks stridingedge.

immense respect to you for a very good comp, well run.
Report OilyWragg January 30, 2020 11:00 PM GMT
4.00 Air Navigator, place market. Thank you.
Report MinnieLAI January 30, 2020 11:04 PM GMT
14.10 Lingfield | Kings Advice
GOOD LUCK to all competitors.
Report Cheify January 31, 2020 4:55 AM GMT
14.35 Catt Mamoo place lay
Report bustino January 31, 2020 7:08 AM GMT
1.00 Catterick / Ragnar  place lay

Could i substitute my previous selection with this hobbs abimal looked at race last night exspected him to be bigger app if its no hassle.....so cancel chocolato replace with ragnar in 1/00 catt
Report cardenden January 31, 2020 9:03 AM GMT
Well anyone that doesn't want me to join ..can take a running pack to there selves right now..because I'm in ..
Report cardenden January 31, 2020 9:05 AM GMT

Jan 30, 2020 -- 8:52PM, stridingedge wrote:


Cardy it's happening.New rules will be posted on Saturday 1st Feb. Entries will have to be posted with up to 2 subs if desired 15 mins before the 1st race time.I wouldn't continue doing it otherwise as a lot of hanging around late in the evening not knowing if anyone else is going to show and also I can set all the entries up in one go early and forget about it through the day.Much much easier for me and every other comp will do such a thing.anyway you only posted 1 selection and then left, are you coming back to us?


Yes

Report TheNorfolkMafia January 31, 2020 9:41 AM GMT
Alohamora - 3.40 Catterick (Last price matched:2.16)
Report flushgordon1 January 31, 2020 9:46 AM GMT
Alborkan Ling 3.50
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 31, 2020 9:53 AM GMT
Pilot Wings. 4-20 Lingfield. @ 2.9.

  Thanks.
Report exactaman January 31, 2020 10:30 AM GMT
1.20 Chepstow | Beyondthestorm | Place Lay |

Many Thx Striding
Report Jenkos' January 31, 2020 10:55 AM GMT
Air Navigator - 4:00 Chepstow (place market)
Many thanks Striding
Report happysandwich January 31, 2020 11:10 AM GMT
Catterick 3.05 Bering Upsun

Please God let me win 4d to draw level with adamanty. Laugh
Report stewarts rise January 31, 2020 11:12 AM GMT
Sky Defender-3.15 Lingfield.

Thanks again SE, and well done everyone for keeping going.
Report flatcap January 31, 2020 11:43 AM GMT
2.45L Dana Forever LPM 2.54

Thanks Striding
Report Airman January 31, 2020 12:02 PM GMT
Long 13:40 Unforgiving Minute.   Place, many thanks as ever SE, cheers
Report china castle January 31, 2020 12:02 PM GMT
Dana Forver - 2.45 Lingfield  Place

Thanks for all your hard work this month Striding Cool
Report china castle January 31, 2020 12:04 PM GMT
Should read

Dana Forever - 2.45 Lingfield  Place

Thanks
Report east end boy January 31, 2020 12:13 PM GMT
1.50 Mario de Pail

Thank you Stride.
Report dukeofpuke January 31, 2020 12:56 PM GMT
1.00 Catterick Black Abbey
Report rob22 January 31, 2020 1:10 PM GMT
Beyondthestorm 1.20 Cheps 3.15
Thanks Striding for  running a great comp
and everybody being very sportingExcitedHappy
Report Movewiththetimes January 31, 2020 1:14 PM GMT
Beyondthestorm (place) Chepstow 1-20 Thanks SE for running a brilliant comp Cool
Report madhatters January 31, 2020 1:14 PM GMT
Enfin Phil 2.35 Cat
PL Lay

Cheers Stride

GL all
Report The Management January 31, 2020 1:25 PM GMT
13:40 Lingfield: Pour La Victoire (Place Lay).

Well done Striding and thank you! Cool
Report happysandwich January 31, 2020 1:39 PM GMT
Watch horse racing full screen here. - FREE

https://news.williamhill.com/broadcast/
Report MinnieLAI January 31, 2020 1:45 PM GMT
Chair.  HS embedding sponsorship on this thread !!!
Report happysandwich January 31, 2020 1:51 PM GMT
Minnie,

I’m just helping others, who like me, are too tight to have a bet. Laugh
Report MinnieLAI January 31, 2020 1:57 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 1:51PM, happysandwich wrote:


Minnie,I’m just helping others, who like me, are too tight to have a bet.


Desperate measures giving competitors WH latency 00.10.00 Grin Grin.  I nearly fell for it ...

Report pumphol. January 31, 2020 2:05 PM GMT
Silver Dust - 5.45 New Place Lay

Many thanks SE
Report madhatters January 31, 2020 2:07 PM GMT
Battle of the MJ's SE
Mild ?
Report MinnieLAI January 31, 2020 2:13 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 2:07PM, madhatters wrote:


Battle of the MJ's SEMild ?


I got 1.3 matched pre-race, it must have been a fat finger.  I can send the receipt, and chart as proof.

Report dukeofpuke January 31, 2020 2:14 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 1:39PM, happysandwich wrote:


Watch horse racing full screen here. - FREEhttps://news.williamhill.com/broadcast/


thanks for this

Report MinnieLAI January 31, 2020 2:16 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 2:14PM, dukeofpuke wrote:


Jan 31, 2020 --  1:39PM, happysandwich wrote:Watch horse racing full screen here. - FREEhttps://news.williamhill.com/broadcast/thanks for this


Duke.  Cardenden uses this feed all the time, hence the after-timing, lol.

Report madhatters January 31, 2020 2:18 PM GMT
What i've seen recently Happy is that most races are free on here now
Report madhatters January 31, 2020 2:18 PM GMT
VG Minihaha
Report MinnieLAI January 31, 2020 2:19 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 2:18PM, madhatters wrote:


VG Minihaha


You MINX you.  I hope my bet stands at 1.3.

Report MinnieLAI January 31, 2020 2:22 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 2:19PM, MinnieLAI wrote:


Jan 31, 2020 --  2:18PM, madhatters wrote:VG MinihahaYou MINX you.  I hope my bet stands at 1.3.


I think SE is on the phone to Betfair to verify my claim.

Report madhatters January 31, 2020 2:25 PM GMT
You can claim what you like
SE rules outweigh them Laugh
Report MinnieLAI January 31, 2020 2:28 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 2:25PM, madhatters wrote:


You can claim what you likeSE rules outweigh them


Oh well, it was worth a TRY.  Would have got away with it if I renewed my editing software, lol.

Report MinnieLAI January 31, 2020 2:31 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 2:25PM, madhatters wrote:


You can claim what you likeSE rules outweigh them


Just to remind you your selection goes off at 14.50 if using WH 'Cliff EDGE' Tongue Out Tongue Out

Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 2:38 PM GMT
Only just got on the thread no idea of prices till timeofrm update.

I don't think 1.3 is on the cards though Minnie. Laugh
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 2:40 PM GMT
You'll see Hatters with his stun gun at Catterick come into view shortly.
Report madhatters January 31, 2020 2:42 PM GMT
Game on Grin
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 2:43 PM GMT
VWD Hatters Cool

You are disqualified though for not producing another odds on shot. Silly
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 2:44 PM GMT
Got to say that's a fine stretch you've put together there last 8.
Report MinnieLAI January 31, 2020 2:44 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 2:42PM, madhatters wrote:


Game on


Has it started yet.  I see BFSP 10.0.

Report madhatters January 31, 2020 2:44 PM GMT
I tried Grin
2.06 took
Report madhatters January 31, 2020 2:45 PM GMT
Was a bit concerned when it was cruising up front at 7+
Then the stun gun got too work
Report madhatters January 31, 2020 2:46 PM GMT
Whos the minx mini
10 Laugh
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 2:47 PM GMT
Lee Ho a tad odds on

he needs that price to keep low to have a chance.
Report MinnieLAI January 31, 2020 2:47 PM GMT

Jan 31, 2020 -- 2:46PM, madhatters wrote:


Whos the minx mini10


You know I'm a TERRIBLE loser darling.  I'm going for a lie down as I feel a bout of PTSD coming on.

Report madhatters January 31, 2020 2:49 PM GMT
Just checked Lees
Come on the drift Grin

Or might have had stewards with bustino
Report madhatters January 31, 2020 2:50 PM GMT
Back later
Off to console mini Devil
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 2:52 PM GMT
Wd Flatcap
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 3:13 PM GMT
Wd Madhatter

& Happy (11 stretch to finish comp with).
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 3:15 PM GMT
Lee Ho Fooks needs 2.09 or less price to have chance of overhauling Hatters in the 3:40
Report happysandwich January 31, 2020 3:15 PM GMT
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Catterick 3.05 Bering Upsun

Please God let me win 4d to draw level with adamanty. Laugh



Jesus loves me Laugh
Report hello :-) January 31, 2020 3:27 PM GMT
alohamora 15 40 catt cheers strinding
Report happysandwich January 31, 2020 3:42 PM GMT
I'm cheering for :-

Hello:-)hamora to get beaten.

It's now 1.83

It couldn't be tighter at the top.

Very well done to Madhatters and Le Ho Fooks whatever the result of the 3.40.
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 3:48 PM GMT
OMG Horse thankfully looks ok

comp decided on a last fence fall!
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 3:49 PM GMT
Wd Lee Ho Fooks

commiserations Hatters
Report hello :-) January 31, 2020 3:50 PM GMT
horse straight back up hope jocks ok , NH man never over till they cross line
Report tanglefoot January 31, 2020 3:58 PM GMT
Al Maysan 5.15 Newcastle @ 1.43
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 3:58 PM GMT
Tis very true Hello
Report tanglefoot January 31, 2020 4:00 PM GMT
Thx striding, competition well held, unfortunately I will be missing next month. Grin
Report madhatters January 31, 2020 4:40 PM GMT
WD LHF

Down to the last fence
I'll take that
Report FOYLESWAR January 31, 2020 5:34 PM GMT
dundalk 18.00 bowerman .1.97
Report FOYLESWAR January 31, 2020 5:39 PM GMT
wd ho lee fooks ,bad luck hatters ,great comp stride
Report FOYLESWAR January 31, 2020 5:43 PM GMT
spread for entrants  for feb comp 55-75
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 5:55 PM GMT
6:00 Dund Kasparenko (plc)

Hoping this is pretty tactical with the small field, don't think that will suit this horse despite it's past class as much as the other 2.

well being on the 2 behind fav complete ?? though

a tired end of comp pick.
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 6:00 PM GMT
1.78 out to 2.14 Devil
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 6:03 PM GMT
shame about drift but job done
Report madhatters January 31, 2020 6:50 PM GMT
Would 1.39 have got me the win ? Grin
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 31, 2020 6:57 PM GMT
Thanks all especially stridingedge for all your efforts.

Just in from being out all day, train broke down on way home too. Apologies for not posting anything sooner (I'm old & don't have one of those new fangled phones). I've just this minute seen the results & read the race comments of my lay's effort today - it's not unusual to see my BACK fall at the last but this is a first. Sounds like the best news was the horse & jockey were OK.

I'm sure we all agree that we would like this comp to be a permanent fixture.

LHF
Report 11kv January 31, 2020 7:00 PM GMT
well done LHF .Good stuff Striding not sure where you find the time m8.
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 7:06 PM GMT
I couldn't carry on as it were 11kv, new time limit for entries will be much more workable.

what's the 1.39 hatters?
Report madhatters January 31, 2020 7:10 PM GMT
Aftertiming my other choice Laugh
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 7:17 PM GMT
Oh I see Grin

This is the frustrating part, I don't know if anyone else is going to post tonight.
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 7:37 PM GMT
I'm going to call it at 8:00 to post scores, my gut feeling is that no one else is too bothered to post at this stage.
Report cardenden January 31, 2020 7:40 PM GMT
Tyrconnell  place lay 8,30 dundalk
Report cardenden January 31, 2020 7:40 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaugh
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 7:49 PM GMT
You are not eligible until tomorrow. Laugh
Report cardenden January 31, 2020 7:53 PM GMT
place laying should be scrapped  as well..
Report cardenden January 31, 2020 7:54 PM GMT
i meant to post that in my other username  stride,,LaughLaugh
Report stridingedge January 31, 2020 8:05 PM GMT



    Entrant        Selection        Race        Odds        BFSP        Re        su        lt        Stake        RaceP&L   
                                                                               
    invicta        Ragnar        13:00 Catt        6.48        6.48        P        /        10        9.81        9.61   
    flushgordon1        Alborkan        15:50 Ling        3.10        3.10        4        /        7        20.95        20.53   
    madhatter        Bering Upsun        15:05 Catt        3.70        3.70        4        /        9        20.89        20.48   
    Minnie LAI        Kings Advice        14:10 Ling        2.72        2.72        3        /        4        39.96        39.16   
    bustino        Ragnar (plc)        13:00 Catt        2.29        2.29        P        /        10        49.87        48.88   
    GlASGOWCALLING        Pilot Wings        16:20 Ling        2.90        2.54        5        /        10        25.18        24.68   
    mymumsfinethankyou        No Selection                                                                   
    The Norfolk Mafia        alohamora        15:40 Catt        2.16        1.79        F        /        3        38.84        38.06   
    11kv        Al Maysan        17:15 Newc        1.29        1.29        1        /        6        153.30        -44.46   
    exactaman        Beyondthestorm (plc)        13:20 Chep        1.77        1.77        3        /        8        39.58        -30.47   
    Deplasterer        Headland (plc)        13:40 Ling        3.55        3.55        6        /        7        11.80        11.57   
    Jenkos'        Air Navigator (plc)        16:00 Chep        2.42        2.42        P        /        8        33.72        33.04   
    Oilywragg        Air Navigator (plc)        16:00 Chep        2.42        2.42        P        /        8        28.69        28.12   
    adamanty        No Selection                                                                   
    flatcap        Dana Forever        14:45 ling        2.54        2.74        2        /        5        41.62        40.79   
    smirnofftotherescue        No Selection                                                                   
    youresomean        No Selection                                                                   
    Andrew.in.Sweden        No Selection                                                                   
    happysandwich        Bering Upsun        15:05 Catt        3.70        3.70        4        /        9        22.04        21.59   
    rob22        Beyondthestorm        13:20 Chep        3.15        3.60        3        /        8        22.15        21.71   
    dukeofpuke        Black Abbey        13:00 Catt        4.15        4.15        7        /        10        12.40        12.15   
    Tanglefoot        Al Maysan        17:15 Newc        1.29        1.29        1        /        6        130.78        -37.93   
    Sontaranstratagem        No Selection                                                                   
    The Management        Pour La Victoire (plc)        13:40 Ling        1.92        1.92        3        /        7        48.66        47.68   
    posy        No Selection                                                                   
    pumphol        Silver Dust (plc)        17:45 Newc        3.18        3.18        6        /        10        15.26        14.95   
    FOYLESWAR        Bowerman        18:00 Dund        1.70        1.70        1        /        4        55.04        -38.53   
    stridingedge        Kasperenko (plc)        18:00 Dund        2.16        2.16        3        /        4        35.67        34.95   
    Lee Ho Fooks        alohamora        15:40 Catt        1.79        1.79        F        /        3        90.01        88.21   
    angeleyz        Matewan (plc)        16:15 Newc        1.27        1.27        1        /        7        196.96        -53.18   
    movewiththetimes        Beyondthestorm (plc)        13:20 Chep        1.77        1.77        3        /        8        42.76        -32.93   
    Airman        Unforgiving Minute (plc)        13:40 Ling        1.19        1.19        1        /        7        226.35        -43.01   
    madhatters        Enfin Phil (plc)        14:35 Catt        2.15        2.15        5        /        5        61.97        60.73   
    eastendboy        Mario De Pail        13:50 Chep        2.65        2.65        2        /        8        35.81        35.09   
    hello:-)        alohamora        15:40 Catt        1.79        1.79        F        /        3        65.36        64.05   
    stewarts rise        Sky Defender        15:15 Ling        2.88        2.88        2        /        7        27.92        27.36   
    china castle        Dana Forever (plc)        14:45 ling        1.26        1.26        2        /        5        141.47        -36.78   
    Cheify        Mamoo (plc)        14:35 Catt        2.49        2.49        2        /        5        21.52        -32.06   
    sonofshinner        No Selection                                                                   
    uptheboro        Bowerman        18:00 Dund        1.70        1.70        1        /        4        46.89        -32.83   





Thread Total £361.24 
Month Total -£2,107.65


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