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stridingedge
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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.

How many selections must be made?

Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.

The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection

Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst substitutes can be offered at any point following all the usual rules, a failure to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.

What criteria do selections need to satisfy?

Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.

Are win and place markets settled in the same way?

Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.

When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)

A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry is posted on that day’s selections thread.

The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).

In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.

Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.

Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.

Entrants are more than welcome to offer a couple of substitutes if they know they will not be around to change any selections deemed void.Substitutes that qualify will then be used in the event of a void first choice.

Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-2mins of race time (so 12:00 race would need entry no later than 11:57am) on the given race day.

In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.

How are selections staked and returns calculated?

Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.

Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.

Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.

Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?

The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
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Report stridingedge • January 29, 2020 8:56 PM GMT
ttt just in case it's been missed.
Report angeleyz • January 29, 2020 9:04 PM GMT
kateson - 2.45 ffos las place lay

ty striding
Report madhatter • January 29, 2020 9:37 PM GMT
Battleofthesomme - 4.20 Ffos Las please se
Report flushgordon1 • January 29, 2020 10:09 PM GMT
Will to Win South 2.30
Report uptheboro • January 29, 2020 10:20 PM GMT
Dolciano Dici - 12.55 Limerick

Cheers Striding
Report invicta • January 29, 2020 11:12 PM GMT
Mustmeetalady 3.55 Wincanton

thanks Stridingedge.
Report TheNorfolkMafia • January 29, 2020 11:56 PM GMT
Chitra - 6.30 Chelmsford City (Place Lay)
Report Cheify • January 30, 2020 5:58 AM GMT
15.05 Southell Rock Icon
Report sonofshinner • January 30, 2020 8:09 AM GMT
hi stride.been having lap top problems..just looking i fall short of the layer attempts for this month.see you feb...cracking comp...
Report bustino • January 30, 2020 8:53 AM GMT
Whitehotchillifili     1.10 @ Wincanton place market please se

Today people very reluctant to post must be putting in intense studying lol im off out at least with this one will be put out of my misery early gd luck with ur selections
Report uptheboro • January 30, 2020 10:13 AM GMT
Got a non runner so will change please Striding

Moving In Style - 2.20 Wincanton Place Market

Cheers
Report exactaman • January 30, 2020 10:25 AM GMT
2.10 Ffos Las | Pileon | Place Lay |

Many Thx Striding
Report smirnoff2therescue • January 30, 2020 10:36 AM GMT
Hi Paul , I cant win it this mth from my current position so i will settle for a small profit on the mth by sitting out the last cupla days but just wanted to say a big w/d for running the comp in such a professional manner and for bringing a little bit of sanity back to the place after all the madness of recent times.
And also a big w/d to the guys/gals still in wiv a chance of securing the bragging rights ova next cupla days - some great performances in there CoolCoolCool
Report Jenkos' • January 30, 2020 11:03 AM GMT
Chitra - 6:30 Chelmsford (place market)
Many thanks Striding
Report Deplasterer • January 30, 2020 11:07 AM GMT
Mooltazem 12.55 Limerick, place lay.

Ta SE.
Report GLASGOWCALLING • January 30, 2020 11:09 AM GMT
Glory and Fortune. - 2-55 Wincanton @ 2.9.

Thanks Striders.
Report Lee Ho Fooks • January 30, 2020 11:10 AM GMT
Ffos 1.350 Main Fact
Report Lee Ho Fooks • January 30, 2020 11:11 AM GMT
Ffos 1.35 Main Fact
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 11:31 AM GMT
No Probs Paul and wd. Happy

Sonofshinner thanks for that I noticed you went over the threshold will leave you in table though and wd you leave month in profit. Wink

In Feb I want all entries in by first race - 15 mins so I can set it up and then not worry about updating it before doing scores later. I will also know when the last race is too rather than hanging around for possibles late in the day.
Report MinnieLAI • January 30, 2020 11:39 AM GMT
15.55 Wincanton | Virak | 2.18 Matched
GOOD LUCK to all competitors
Report happysandwich • January 30, 2020 11:54 AM GMT
Wincanton 1.10 Whitehotchillifili

Striding 15 minutes before the first race is an excellent idea because it makes life for you.

Good luck everyone.
Report happysandwich • January 30, 2020 11:55 AM GMT
easier
Report Andrew.in.Sweden • January 30, 2020 11:57 AM GMT
Lamarckise - 1.25 Limerick @ 1.73

Good luck all
Report flatcap • January 30, 2020 11:57 AM GMT
12.50 South Hey Ho Lets Go 3TBP

Thanks Striding
Report east end boy • January 30, 2020 12:24 PM GMT
3.10  Whitehotchilly
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 12:31 PM GMT
Apologies Flatcap but I'm in with you on this one today. 12:50 Sout Hey Ho Lets Go (plc)

I like backing at suvvers but I have struggled badly selecting lays in this comp, the track has singlehandedly taken me down but I still persist. (makes no sense!)

This runner has been pretty consistent and does handle the surface but doesn't look to be remotely progressive to me.You could say that about other runners in race but they have managed to win races and plenty here with course form from likely trainers at track.A lot of likely trainers that get winners at the track in this sort of heart so hopefully the Hoad runner will be found wanting.Eric Alston very shrewd with his sort of unexposed handicapper this grade especially and has a good record ft on surface so hopefully will be one that goes well.

Hoping perhaps drawn on the wrong side of track for this race too.

Fingers crossed to exorcise the Suvvers lay comp jinx Shocked
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 12:33 PM GMT
*in this sort of heat
Report rob22 • January 30, 2020 12:35 PM GMT
Mustmeetalady 3.55 Win 5.1
Cheers Striding
Report flatcap • January 30, 2020 12:40 PM GMT
Much the same thoughts as you striding. Around the evs mark looked a decent lay price. I don't like draw 1 either in fields of more than 7 runners

Good luck to us both.
Report dukeofpuke • January 30, 2020 12:48 PM GMT
12.50 Southwell Hey Ho Lets Go
Report dukeofpuke • January 30, 2020 12:48 PM GMT
too late
Report SontaranStratagem • January 30, 2020 12:51 PM GMT
Whitehotchilifili 1:10 Wincanton 2.02

Thanks SE
Report madhatters • January 30, 2020 12:53 PM GMT
WD
Report madhatters • January 30, 2020 12:53 PM GMT
Just Grin
Report flatcap • January 30, 2020 12:53 PM GMT
Well done Striding

CoolCoolCool
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 12:53 PM GMT
Flatcap

£9 @ 1.02 in plc

I must admit I expected a few too good this side still in running. Shocked
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 12:54 PM GMT
Yes wd Wink
Report flatcap • January 30, 2020 12:57 PM GMT
Unbelievable 1.02 never looked anywhere near that price to my eyes, But they're getting old now LaughLaugh
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 1:00 PM GMT
The worry you have like that is do they want to place in a finish that bunched but they always looked to have an advantage IF ridden out this side to me no way a 1.02 /1.03 shot. not that I play atr tracks.
Report youresomean • January 30, 2020 1:01 PM GMT
Calva Dauge - 2.55 Wincanton place market

thanks
Report madhatters • January 30, 2020 1:16 PM GMT
Kateson 2.45 FL
PL lay

Cheers Stride
Report Deplasterer • January 30, 2020 1:17 PM GMT
Augustus caesaer, place lay 1.20.
Report Deplasterer • January 30, 2020 1:19 PM GMT
That dog, Mooltazem refused again SE.
Report flatcap • January 30, 2020 1:20 PM GMT
Thread doing well today. Well in profit at moment
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 1:27 PM GMT
I wondered what happened DP missed start of race.

was it under orders?
Report pumphol. • January 30, 2020 1:29 PM GMT
Rock Icon - 3.05 Southwell place lay

Thanks
Report bustino • January 30, 2020 1:30 PM GMT
not too far off the mark with white chilli filli had stamina doubts about her thought she was all over the place when winning over 2m just needed one more to stay on a bit better was 6/4 when i posted so surprised to see her go odds on had decent bet on cill anna and in an eway double with baileys in next espoir du romay 1.15 would have been a sweet lay not to be
Report posy • January 30, 2020 1:32 PM GMT
This'll make a dent in the profits...

time to strike  18.00che
Report stewarts rise • January 30, 2020 1:32 PM GMT
Jimmyjames-4.20 Southwell-place market please.

Thanks SE.
Report madhatters • January 30, 2020 2:03 PM GMT
Just seen they pulled the fave out of my race Sad
Report Movewiththetimes • January 30, 2020 2:07 PM GMT
Republican Place lay
Report Movewiththetimes • January 30, 2020 2:08 PM GMT
FFos Las 2-10 Thanks SE.
Report happysandwich • January 30, 2020 2:16 PM GMT
Stewarts rise

Jimmyjames-4.20 Southwell-place market please.

Should be Ffos Las

Posy,

time to strike  18.00che

This is no time to down tools you’ve got the Plasterer to catch. Laugh
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 2:55 PM GMT
Wd Hatters Cool

Incredible run of form

Angeleyz too
Report The Management • January 30, 2020 4:00 PM GMT
16:05 Southwell: Six Strings (Place Lay)

Cheers Striding.
Report Lee Ho Fooks • January 30, 2020 4:05 PM GMT
Don't you just hate this game Minnie?Laugh
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 4:08 PM GMT
Madhatters takes it up going to the last day by £3. Shocked

Hope no one layed the 50/1 a week ago Laugh
Report Airman • January 30, 2020 4:39 PM GMT
Chelms  17:00 Agent Of Fortune - Place, many thanks SE and fwiw I think 15 mins re race times more then generous by your good self, sterling work you put in and is nice to know folk on here appreciate the effort, cheers.
Report mymumsfinethankyou • January 30, 2020 4:39 PM GMT
Makthecat  7,30 chelmsford
Report GLASGOWCALLING • January 30, 2020 4:50 PM GMT
Can i change my N/R  to Agent of fortune - 5-0 Chelms.

      Ta.
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 4:50 PM GMT
Airman

It will be all entries in before the FIRST race of the day whatever time that goes off.

Apologies if you knew that is what I meant.
Report mymumsfinethankyou • January 30, 2020 5:12 PM GMT

Jan 30, 2020 -- 4:50PM, GLASGOWCALLING wrote:


Can i change my N/R  to Agent of fortune - 5-0 Chelms.      Ta.


no u cant ,,must be posted 1 hour before the off,,LaughLaughLaugh

Report china castle • January 30, 2020 5:13 PM GMT
Chitra - 6.30 Chelmsford  Place

Thanks
Report Airman • January 30, 2020 5:17 PM GMT
stridingedge

Fully understand just the old grey matter rushing for a lay and half reading your bit.The comp many many moons ago worked on the same basis ie before racing started and that went a treat, must make life a damn site easier for you which is a BIG plus, cheers.
Report FOYLESWAR • January 30, 2020 5:52 PM GMT
18.00 chelms ..partridge 2.82 thanks
Report 11kv • January 30, 2020 5:56 PM GMT
18.00 Meydan Simsir
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 6:04 PM GMT
No Meydan 11kv sorry mate uk/ire

If I'm not around once the prices go you can't see them again
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 6:06 PM GMT
Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.

tis in the rules.
Report hello :-) • January 30, 2020 6:19 PM GMT
restless rose place lay 6 30 Chelmsford

cheers striding
Report MinnieLAI • January 30, 2020 6:35 PM GMT

Jan 30, 2020 -- 4:05PM, Lee Ho Fooks wrote:


Don't you just hate this game Minnie?


LOVE it darling, LOVE it.  Two BACK orders attached to all my selections hedged-up IVO 25% less commission 20% profit.

Report Cheify • January 30, 2020 6:39 PM GMT
Question about Feb comp what will be the position with regards  a NR as I have to put up b4 I go to bed and don't get back to see anything b4 15.00 GMT
Report happysandwich • January 30, 2020 6:47 PM GMT
Do what the rest of us have to do – change your job. Laugh
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 6:58 PM GMT
Cheify  I will allow a couple of subs to pout up with your selection.
Report Cheify • January 30, 2020 6:59 PM GMT
Happy been retired 7 years now
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 6:59 PM GMT
or even put up Tongue Out
Report Cheify • January 30, 2020 7:00 PM GMT
Thanks Se your doing a superb job congrats on all your work.
Report MinnieLAI • January 30, 2020 7:05 PM GMT

Jan 30, 2020 -- 7:00PM, Cheify wrote:


Thanks Se your doing a superb job congrats on all your work.


As Chair mentioned add a sub to your main selection, or next best.  Chair to sign terminology off and include in rules so competitors aware.  Just a suggestion to cover people's personal circumstances, and outside the Kingdom.

Report 11kv • January 30, 2020 7:28 PM GMT

Jan 30, 2020 -- 6:04PM, stridingedge wrote:


No Meydan 11kv sorry mate uk/ireIf I'm not around once the prices go you can't see them again


Bugger it lost..Laugh  Chelmsford 20.00 Lady Of York place lay .Cheers

Report madhatters • January 30, 2020 7:49 PM GMT
Who needs the fave to run
Nae worries phew
Made up for Maxwell Grin

Got to give you & comp credit for the turnround
Focused the mind on the strategy reqd to do well
Still got to pick the right ones

Whaddya mean who layed me at 50/1
I did Laugh
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 8:04 PM GMT
Wink
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 8:16 PM GMT



    Entrant        Selection        Race        Odds        BFSP        Re        su        lt        Stake        RaceP&L   
                                                                               
    invicta        Mustmeetalady        15:55 Winc        3.62        3.62        3        /        6        20.14        19.74   
    flushgordon1        Will To Win        14:30 Sout        2.63        2.63        1        /        4        28.42        -46.32   
    madhatter        Battleofthesomme        16:20 Ffos        5.39        5.39        4        /        8        12.71        12.45   
    Minnie LAI        Virak        15:55 Winc        2.18        2.40        1        /        6        61.31        -72.34   
    bustino        Whitehotchillifili (plc)        13:10 Winc        1.15        1.15        3        /        11        451.49        -67.72   
    GlASGOWCALLING        Agent Of Fortune        17:00 Chmf        2.95        2.95        dh        /        7        24.84        -11.80   
    mymumsfinethankyou        Makthecat        19:30 Chmf        2.23        2.23        2        /        7        40.57        39.75   
    The Norfolk Mafia        Chitra (plc)        18:30 Chmf        2.94        2.94        5        /        7        22.65        22.20   
    11kv        Lady Of York (plc)        20:00 Chmf        2.38        2.38        1        /        16        33.91        -46.80   
    exactaman        Pileon (plc)        14:10 Ffos        1.12        1.12        1        /        7        267.31        -32.08   
    Deplasterer        Augustus Ceasar (plc)        13:20 Sout        1.89        1.89        3        /        7        32.05        31.41   
    Jenkos'        Chitra (plc)        18:30 Chmf        2.94        2.94        5        /        7        24.07        23.59   
    Oilywragg        No Selection                                                                   
    adamanty        No Selection                                                                   
    flatcap        Hey Ho Lets Go (plc)        12:50 Sout        2.22        2.22        5        /        10        50.51        49.50   
    smirnofftotherescue        No Selection                                                                   
    youresomean        Calva Dauge (plc)        14:55 Winc        1.10        1.10        1        /        17        409.61        -40.96   
    Andrew.in.Sweden        Lamarckise        13:25 Lime        1.73        1.43        1        /        14        59.60        -43.51   
    happysandwich        Whitehotchillifili        13:10 Winc        1.84        1.84        3        /        11        66.92        65.59   
    rob22        Mustmeetalady        15:55 Winc        5.10        3.62        3        /        6        11.48        11.25   
    dukeofpuke        Void Selection                                                                   
    Tanglefoot        No Selection                                                                   
    Sontaranstratagem        Whitehotchillifili        13:10 Winc        2.02        1.84        3        /        11        40.00        39.20   
    The Management        Six Strings (plc)        16:05 Sout        2.18        2.18        2        /        8        39.93        -47.12   
    posy        Time To Strike        18:00 Chmf        2.63        2.63        1        /        4        15.00        -24.45   
    pumphol        Rock Icon (plc)        15:05 Sout        2.06        2.06        6        /        9        29.99        29.39   
    FOYLESWAR        Partridge        18:00 Chmf        2.82        2.83        3        /        4        20.61        20.20   
    stridingedge        Hey Ho Lets Go (plc)        12:50 Sout        2.22        2.22        5        /        10        32.60        31.95   
    Lee Ho Fooks        Main Fact        13:35 Ffos        2.38        2.38        1        /        12        54.24        -74.85   
    angeleyz        Kateson (plc)        14:45 Ffos        1.61        1.61        4        /        5        80.70        79.08   
    movewiththetimes        Republican (plc)        14:10 Ffos        1.64        1.64        2        /        7        54.15        -34.66   
    Airman        Agent Of Fortune (plc)        17:00 Chmf        1.33        1.33        1        /        7        137.18        -45.27   
    madhatters        Kateson (plc)        14:45 Ffos        1.61        1.61        4        /        5        108.14        105.98   
    eastendboy        Whitehotchillifili        13:10 Winc        1.84        1.84        3        /        11        66.46        65.13   
    hello:-)        Restless Rose (plc)        18:30 Chmf        2.18        2.18        1        /        7        46.06        -54.35   
    stewarts rise        Jimmy James (plc)        16:20 Ffos        1.99        1.99        7        /        8        50.51        49.50   
    china castle        Chitra (plc)        18:30 Chmf        2.94        2.94        5        /        7        18.49        18.12   
    Cheify        Rock Icon        15:05 Sout        4.77        4.77        6        /        9        8.40        8.23   
    sonofshinner        No Selection                                                                   
    uptheboro        Moving In Style (plc)        14:20 Winc        1.84        1.84        3        /        12        41.13        -34.55   





Thread Total £45.50   
Month Total -£2,468.89
Report stridingedge • January 30, 2020 8:41 PM GMT
Table is up in Your Comps.
Cheers
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