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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.
How many selections must be made?
Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.
The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection
Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst substitutes can be offered at any point following all the usual rules, a failure to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.
What criteria do selections need to satisfy?
Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.
Are win and place markets settled in the same way?
Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.
When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)
A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry is posted on that day’s selections thread.
The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).
In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.
Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.
Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.
Entrants are more than welcome to offer a couple of substitutes if they know they will not be around to change any selections deemed void.Substitutes that qualify will then be used in the event of a void first choice.
Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-2mins of race time (so 12:00 race would need entry no later than 11:57am) on the given race day.
In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.
How are selections staked and returns calculated?
Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.
Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.
Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.
Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?
The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
How many selections must be made?
Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.
The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection
Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst substitutes can be offered at any point following all the usual rules, a failure to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.
What criteria do selections need to satisfy?
Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or STANDARD place markets on Betfair.
Are win and place markets settled in the same way?
Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.
When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)
A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 6-7pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.Anyone who needs to post a selection sooner than the next days thread being active can message me and I will make sure their entry is posted on that day’s selections thread.
The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).
In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.
Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.
Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.
Entrants are more than welcome to offer a couple of substitutes if they know they will not be around to change any selections deemed void.Substitutes that qualify will then be used in the event of a void first choice.
Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-2mins of race time (so 12:00 race would need entry no later than 11:57am) on the given race day.
In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.
How are selections staked and returns calculated?
Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.
Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.
Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.
Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?
The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
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Solar Heights 7.00 Wolverhamton place market
thks striding was out yesterday and my void selection i didnt have alot of coviction to place lay him........i fancied the g moore horse that was a nr.......its twice theyve pulled him obviously looking for better ground...moore was v complimentary in stable tour and theyve ran him at varying distances 3m then dropping him to 2m.....he won with the other same owner perhaps had this one et moi alors to get a price on full back gd luck withur selections in last week
thks striding was out yesterday and my void selection i didnt have alot of coviction to place lay him........i fancied the g moore horse that was a nr.......its twice theyve pulled him obviously looking for better ground...moore was v complimentary in stable tour and theyve ran him at varying distances 3m then dropping him to 2m.....he won with the other same owner perhaps had this one et moi alors to get a price on full back gd luck withur selections in last week
15.00 Plumpton Hideaway Vic
(I'm a backer in real life)
Good Luck all
(I'm a backer in real life)
Good Luck all
Plum.3-00 Whisky In The Jar @5.2 cheers stride...
Manetti drifting like a barge. Must be because I put it up as my lay of the day!
. Was 3.5 last night but I'll take the 6.0 LPM for it now please se.
. Was 3.5 last night but I'll take the 6.0 LPM for it now please se.
Chasamax - 1.30 Plumpton (Last price matched:3.8)
madhatter, trainer highlights distance query for it today as per
Manetti then bids to follow up his Ayr win in the 2.15, I thought we got away with running over two miles that day due to the heavy ground so I was hesitant about going again over this trip on a sounder surface, he’s ready to go again and there wasn’t much else around for him so we are having a go, time will tell, 8 run and Lucy rides.
Manetti then bids to follow up his Ayr win in the 2.15, I thought we got away with running over two miles that day due to the heavy ground so I was hesitant about going again over this trip on a sounder surface, he’s ready to go again and there wasn’t much else around for him so we are having a go, time will tell, 8 run and Lucy rides.
Actually - sorry to mess you about but - can I change it to a place lay of same horse please se.
Manetti [place lay] - 2.15 Kelso
Tempting fate I know but i'm not in the habit of laying horses at odds of more than about 4.0-4.5 normally.
Thanks, Mad.
Manetti [place lay] - 2.15 Kelso
Tempting fate I know but i'm not in the habit of laying horses at odds of more than about 4.0-4.5 normally.
Thanks, Mad.
Plump 13:30 Cap Du Mathan Many thanks SE, good luck in the final push to all!
Cap Du Mathan - 1.30 Plumptom @ 1.91 matched
thanks
thanks
Kelso 1.15 Maid In Manhattan
Good luck everyone in the final week and thanks again Striding for all your work and effort.
Good luck everyone in the final week and thanks again Striding for all your work and effort.
Glorious Caesar 7.30 Wolver. @ 3.1
Thank You SE.
Thank You SE.
Price for seaforth was 4.6 when i posted I was thinking of price when i first looked earlier today.
angeleyz26 Jan 20 17:32Joined: 16 Feb 08 | Topic/replies: 4,000 | Blogger: angeleyz's blog
skyhill - 2.45 kelso
ty striding
one thing i have learned the past couple of days, if you try to chase after the competitions leaders by changing your own strategy and laying odds on shots that deserve to be odds on then you are likely to come unstuck
Very true, was quite amazes at the amount of real short priced horses taken on yesterday, like chasing of any type you generally come unstuck, i tried to resist the temptation to tear up the table by laying a real shortie, but gave in to temptation by laying in the place market which unstuck me, i've done 3 place lays in this comp trying to win more and they have all placed, yet if had left as win lays like all the rest would be over £210 better off, as you say a bit of a lesson in there. Stick to looking for losers 1st before looking at the prices.
skyhill - 2.45 kelso
ty striding
one thing i have learned the past couple of days, if you try to chase after the competitions leaders by changing your own strategy and laying odds on shots that deserve to be odds on then you are likely to come unstuck
Very true, was quite amazes at the amount of real short priced horses taken on yesterday, like chasing of any type you generally come unstuck, i tried to resist the temptation to tear up the table by laying a real shortie, but gave in to temptation by laying in the place market which unstuck me, i've done 3 place lays in this comp trying to win more and they have all placed, yet if had left as win lays like all the rest would be over £210 better off, as you say a bit of a lesson in there. Stick to looking for losers 1st before looking at the prices.
Striding, Great comp. Thanks for all your hard work.
I know you stated that you wouldn't continue after March, But here is a suggestion if your up for it.
After Feb comp has ended, how about running a festival lay comp comprising of
Cheltenham March
Royal Ascot
Glorious Goodwood
Ebor meeting
St Leger
Same rules as before but 3 lay selections every day (because the markets are so strong maybe use Betfair SP's if this eases the workload for you.)
So we would have 5 Champions and a final table of all 5 combined for the overall champion.
Because 4/5 days is less commitment than a month, I could see this taking off and having many more players.
I'm off to OZ for 2 weeks but will continue to play (But there wont be any form study Ill be relying on the trusty pin
Thank Striding
I know you stated that you wouldn't continue after March, But here is a suggestion if your up for it.
After Feb comp has ended, how about running a festival lay comp comprising of
Cheltenham March
Royal Ascot
Glorious Goodwood
Ebor meeting
St Leger
Same rules as before but 3 lay selections every day (because the markets are so strong maybe use Betfair SP's if this eases the workload for you.)
So we would have 5 Champions and a final table of all 5 combined for the overall champion.
Because 4/5 days is less commitment than a month, I could see this taking off and having many more players.
I'm off to OZ for 2 weeks but will continue to play (But there wont be any form study Ill be relying on the trusty pin
Thank Striding
angeleyz
26 Jan 20 17:32
Joined: 16 Feb 08 | Topic/replies: 4,000 | Blogger: angeleyz's blog
skyhill - 2.45 kelso
ty striding
one thing i have learned the past couple of days, if you try to chase after the competitions leaders by changing your own strategy and laying odds on shots that deserve to be odds on then you are likely to come unstuck.
Yes to that!
26 Jan 20 17:32
Joined: 16 Feb 08 | Topic/replies: 4,000 | Blogger: angeleyz's blog
skyhill - 2.45 kelso
ty striding
one thing i have learned the past couple of days, if you try to chase after the competitions leaders by changing your own strategy and laying odds on shots that deserve to be odds on then you are likely to come unstuck.
Yes to that!
Madhatter
I'm not sure about changing these selections in any way once they are posted on here unless of course they are void.
I think I allowed it from MinnieLAI recently the night before within about 10 mins but we really should have it that once you have posted your selection that is it!
I'm not sure about changing these selections in any way once they are posted on here unless of course they are void.
I think I allowed it from MinnieLAI recently the night before within about 10 mins but we really should have it that once you have posted your selection that is it!
Ask the weatherman. 3-30 Plumpton @ 4.2.
Thanks Striders.
Thanks Striders.
flatcap i'm not sure about whether I'm up for that it's a commitment over several different momnths and I'd need to write a new spreadsheet 
If this Lay Comp had the format of the aw comp in selections having to be posted 15 mins before the first race of the day, I would be much more inclined to keep it going.
If this Lay Comp had the format of the aw comp in selections having to be posted 15 mins before the first race of the day, I would be much more inclined to keep it going.
Madhatter
we really need consistency here so there is no doubt about the rules.
Your selection Manetti (win market) will have to stand but if it goes off bigger than 6.0 you can have it in place market as a sub.
we really need consistency here so there is no doubt about the rules.
Your selection Manetti (win market) will have to stand but if it goes off bigger than 6.0 you can have it in place market as a sub.
Flatcap & Stewarts Rise,
“one thing i have learned the past couple of days, if you try to chase after the competitions leaders by changing your own strategy and laying odds on shots that deserve to be odds on then you are likely to come unstuck”
And there’s me thinking you were all going to carry on like betting lunatics (before you realized your folly) and let me creep up and win the competition.
“one thing i have learned the past couple of days, if you try to chase after the competitions leaders by changing your own strategy and laying odds on shots that deserve to be odds on then you are likely to come unstuck”
And there’s me thinking you were all going to carry on like betting lunatics (before you realized your folly) and let me creep up and win the competition.
11kv
26 Jan 20 21:15
Joined: 21 Jan 06 | Topic/replies: 28,010 | Blogger: 11kv's blog
15.00 Plumpton Hideaway Vic
(I'm a backer in real life)
Good Luck all
some real psychology going on there
26 Jan 20 21:15
Joined: 21 Jan 06 | Topic/replies: 28,010 | Blogger: 11kv's blog
15.00 Plumpton Hideaway Vic
(I'm a backer in real life)
Good Luck all
some real psychology going on there
Thanks for the reply Striding. Well lets put that into the rules, Selections to be in at least 15 minutes before 1st race of the day.
I thought having a lay comp at those 5 meetings would be easier than every month as its only 22 days in total over a 7 month period. I'll be happy to continue whatever you decide. Keep up the good work
I thought having a lay comp at those 5 meetings would be easier than every month as its only 22 days in total over a 7 month period. I'll be happy to continue whatever you decide. Keep up the good work
Uptown Harry 1.45 Kel
PL lay
Was looking at Maxwell but keeping my promise to avoid him either way
Could you look at my pick yesterday stride
Pl lay rather than win
Need all the help i can get
PL lay
Was looking at Maxwell but keeping my promise to avoid him either way
Could you look at my pick yesterday stride
Pl lay rather than win
Need all the help i can get
| madhatters | Masters Apprentice (plc) | 13:00 Sedg | 1.63 | 1.63 | 5 | / | 7 | 76.22 | 74.70 |
Apologies Hatters totally missed place part in post.Wd
No worries
Got to be there in case of any slip ups
Just not mine hopefully
Got to be there in case of any slip ups
Just not mine hopefully
This Henderson horse in the mdn hdl opening the card at Plumpton has looked bonkers in both bumper and hdls run so far, very free.
Would be worried after a couple of months on slow ground how it settled today for Nico but behind the Nicholls hotpot (whose form in book is lofty for race like this IMO), it's pure guesswork about the rest in a weak looking field.
Have cut place lay selections out like this where the opposition could be complete carp as often is the case in these races bar 2 or 3 runners!
Would be worried after a couple of months on slow ground how it settled today for Nico but behind the Nicholls hotpot (whose form in book is lofty for race like this IMO), it's pure guesswork about the rest in a weak looking field.
Have cut place lay selections out like this where the opposition could be complete carp as often is the case in these races bar 2 or 3 runners!
My pref would be Nicholls to win
But as you say not enough in the rest to go PL for Hendo
And win price won't do much
But as you say not enough in the rest to go PL for Hendo
And win price won't do much
Hendo very good record in mdn hdls too, above market expectations not just % winners.
1 run over hdls dodgy to base a strong decision.
Not interested in win mkt at price as you say with few in behind that look likely to help out.
Still interested to see how this horse goes through the race after it's antics so far.
1 run over hdls dodgy to base a strong decision.
Not interested in win mkt at price as you say with few in behind that look likely to help out.
Still interested to see how this horse goes through the race after it's antics so far.
Maid In Manhatten refused at last wd Lee Ho on place lay!
jumped poorly throughout tbf.
jumped poorly throughout tbf.
happysandwich
27 Jan 20 12:03
Joined: 06 May 10 | Topic/replies: 1,522 | Blogger: happysandwich's blog
Flatcap & Stewarts Rise,
“one thing i have learned the past couple of days, if you try to chase after the competitions leaders by changing your own strategy and laying odds on shots that deserve to be odds on then you are likely to come unstuck”
And there’s me thinking you were all going to carry on like betting lunatics (before you realized your folly) and let me creep up and win the competition.
Happy I've been true to my strategy from the start Most of my selections have been between evs - 2/1 ( odd 1 above odd 1 below) I have thrown any darts at very short ones. The shortest I've layed was a Hendo horse at 1.7 ish last week.
Makes no difference to me if im top or bottom because I know i'm terrible at laying. As I stated from the very start if i was in profit by the end that was a goo result for me
27 Jan 20 12:03
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Flatcap & Stewarts Rise,
“one thing i have learned the past couple of days, if you try to chase after the competitions leaders by changing your own strategy and laying odds on shots that deserve to be odds on then you are likely to come unstuck”
And there’s me thinking you were all going to carry on like betting lunatics (before you realized your folly) and let me creep up and win the competition.
Happy I've been true to my strategy from the start Most of my selections have been between evs - 2/1 ( odd 1 above odd 1 below) I have thrown any darts at very short ones. The shortest I've layed was a Hendo horse at 1.7 ish last week.
Makes no difference to me if im top or bottom because I know i'm terrible at laying. As I stated from the very start if i was in profit by the end that was a goo result for me
well left striding chasamax stuffed but holds 3rd
wd Norf
wd Norf
Well left striding. Outside fav opposition very very weak
I think it would have been unplaced without the faller 2 out tbh
but have to get in the habit of leaving these place lays in poor races!
certainly a horse that needs to sort it's head out a bit if progressing.
but have to get in the habit of leaving these place lays in poor races!
certainly a horse that needs to sort it's head out a bit if progressing.
Wd Hatters
baffling weight of support for that today
baffling weight of support for that today
No finer sight than seeing the long time leader swallowed up in straight
I'm complaining I layed at 3.8
Didn't have the conviction to place lay it
WD Hatters
Didn't have the conviction to place lay it
WD Hatters
Those that think the market knows everything!
A weak looking mdn hurdle last time but they couldn't get enough of it today back in hcps where it hasn't pulled up any trees.
Strange.
I didn't want to join in and copy the selection but a very good one at price.
wd flatcap too
A weak looking mdn hurdle last time but they couldn't get enough of it today back in hcps where it hasn't pulled up any trees.
Strange.
I didn't want to join in and copy the selection but a very good one at price.
wd flatcap too
Nothing more infuriating than taking the wrong price, backing or laying
Flatcap,
My strategy has been to pick something around 3/1 and have the short priced Fav running for me.
The trick about betting is not the winning – it’s the not losing.
Because if you lose too often you are out of the game.
My strategy has been to pick something around 3/1 and have the short priced Fav running for me.
The trick about betting is not the winning – it’s the not losing.
Because if you lose too often you are out of the game.
Cardy
I'm thinking of changing the format slightly regarding entries.
Selections in by 15 mins before the first race of the day.
If that's agreeable and the numbers still hold up I could probably continue it as it makes things much much easier.I can then just go through the results in one go after last selection (which I will know early rather than eg waiting for possibles at 8:30 at night)
I'm thinking of changing the format slightly regarding entries.
Selections in by 15 mins before the first race of the day.
If that's agreeable and the numbers still hold up I could probably continue it as it makes things much much easier.I can then just go through the results in one go after last selection (which I will know early rather than eg waiting for possibles at 8:30 at night)
Nice when they come off
But... as we all know they don't always
But... as we all know they don't always
Madhatter
Manetti did go off bigger than 6.0 so your place request now ok as sub.
GL
Manetti did go off bigger than 6.0 so your place request now ok as sub.
GL
happysandwich
27 Jan 20 14:05
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Flatcap,
My strategy has been to pick something around 3/1 and have the short priced Fav running for me.
The trick about betting is not the winning – it’s the not losing.
Because if you lose too often you are out of the game.
Agree with that.
Managing your bank is very important in betting. Without a strategy you defiantly will fail to make a profit
27 Jan 20 14:05
Joined: 06 May 10 | Topic/replies: 1,523 | Blogger: happysandwich's blog
Flatcap,
My strategy has been to pick something around 3/1 and have the short priced Fav running for me.
The trick about betting is not the winning – it’s the not losing.
Because if you lose too often you are out of the game.
Agree with that.
Managing your bank is very important in betting. Without a strategy you defiantly will fail to make a profit
I'm very confident with horses I know and then judging the price they are and race they are in.
But a lot of picks are searching for selections with horses not known so well because I want to lay around 6/4 avg odds.
the worst thing to do is try and make something fit that doesn't and have done that too much. would be better picking something at bigger odds some days than chancing arm.
But a lot of picks are searching for selections with horses not known so well because I want to lay around 6/4 avg odds.
the worst thing to do is try and make something fit that doesn't and have done that too much. would be better picking something at bigger odds some days than chancing arm.
yeah wd mad' trip too short so held up in rear and fences taken out 
stridingedge
27 Jan 20 14:25
Joined: 14 Sep 10 | Topic/replies: 55,089 | Blogger: stridingedge's blog
I'm very confident with horses I know and then judging the price they are and race they are in.
But a lot of picks are searching for selections with horses not known so well because I want to lay around 6/4 avg odds.
the worst thing to do is try and make something fit that doesn't and have done that too much. would be better picking something at bigger odds some days than chancing arm.
Just use January as a test. Then stick to something you know is correct, rather than as you say trying fit square peg into a round hole.
27 Jan 20 14:25
Joined: 14 Sep 10 | Topic/replies: 55,089 | Blogger: stridingedge's blog
I'm very confident with horses I know and then judging the price they are and race they are in.
But a lot of picks are searching for selections with horses not known so well because I want to lay around 6/4 avg odds.
the worst thing to do is try and make something fit that doesn't and have done that too much. would be better picking something at bigger odds some days than chancing arm.
Just use January as a test. Then stick to something you know is correct, rather than as you say trying fit square peg into a round hole.
14:45 Kelso; Westend Theatre (Place Lay)
Thanks Stridingedge.
Thanks Stridingedge.
Thanks se.
And Lastin' Memories was my selection in the Naps Competition so even better.
And Lastin' Memories was my selection in the Naps Competition so even better.
Posting on this thread is just unreal for me! - Westend Theatre - first horse beaten - 150+ in-running and jockey rides it like it's the Derby to get a distant 2nd! -
Bags of stamina that one TM once it was still close turning in writing was on the wall for place.
Needs further.
Needs further.
Should have said in chasing pack rather than close.
Striding - I don't really play I/R anymore but I bet it to place at 12.0 in running 
Got £2.00 matched!
Got £2.00 matched!
Invicta
Mcgowans Pass went off too big so VOID.
You can select again if you wish.
Mcgowans Pass went off too big so VOID.
You can select again if you wish.
unlucky hello - it's horrible (imo) watching them plug on, well beaten but into a place.
With just the NHF race to come - biggest priced winner of the day is 9/2 so far! - roll on Wolverhampton imo!
With just the NHF race to come - biggest priced winner of the day is 9/2 so far! - roll on Wolverhampton imo!
4:30 Wolves Greengage (plc)
Up in trip and inexperienced pilot back on (trainer stated that win run started due to stronger handling after she last rode it).
There are several in here that should appreciate this trip and quite a few that haven't had it recently.
So big field horse up in trip inexperienced jock and plenty of competition at conditions IMO.
Hopefully worth taking on around evens for the place.
Up in trip and inexperienced pilot back on (trainer stated that win run started due to stronger handling after she last rode it).
There are several in here that should appreciate this trip and quite a few that haven't had it recently.
So big field horse up in trip inexperienced jock and plenty of competition at conditions IMO.
Hopefully worth taking on around evens for the place.
Foyles you can't have a price in plc markets
There is no Chelmsford
apart form that spot on
gl
There is no Chelmsford
apart form that spot on
gl
sorry stride 0 outa 2 aint bad , been on the pish ! ..wolverhampton .1800 badayel place market
Glorious Caesar 7.30 Wolverhampton
to replace earlier void selection.
thanks stridingedge.
to replace earlier void selection.
thanks stridingedge.
lol smirnoff i got done as well normally when drawn wide with no horse outside theyll jink right no pace easy run to front and normally a closer will prevail a fcukin shorte head......
| Entrant | Selection | Race | Odds | BFSP | Re | su | lt | Stake | RaceP&L |
| invicta | Glorious Ceasar | 19:30 Wolv | 5.10 | 5.10 | 4 | / | 10 | 12.26 | 12.01 |
| flushgordon1 | Black Pirate | 15:45 Kels | 2.39 | 2.39 | 1 | / | 13 | 35.08 | -48.75 |
| madhatter | Manetti | 14:15 Kels | 1.93 | 1.93 | 7 | / | 8 | 63.15 | 61.88 |
| Minnie LAI | Cat Tiger | 14:30 Plum | 1.73 | 1.73 | 1 | / | 4 | 95.30 | -69.57 |
| bustino | Solar Heights (plc) | 19:00 Wolv | 2.67 | 2.67 | 2 | / | 7 | 37.33 | -62.34 |
| GlASGOWCALLING | Ask The Weatherman | 15:30 Plum | 4.20 | 5.00 | 1 | / | 7 | 15.42 | -49.35 |
| mymumsfinethankyou | Sirwilliamwallace | 13:15 Kels | 1.98 | 1.98 | 1 | / | 12 | 54.74 | -53.64 |
| The Norfolk Mafia | Chasamax | 13:30 Plum | 3.80 | 3.61 | 3 | / | 9 | 15.95 | 15.63 |
| 11kv | Hideaway Vic | 15:00 Plum | 2.11 | 2.11 | 2 | / | 5 | 38.97 | 38.19 |
| exactaman | Sirwilliamwallace | 13:15 Kels | 1.98 | 1.98 | 1 | / | 12 | 38.18 | -37.41 |
| Deplasterer | Hideaway Vic (plc) | 15:00 Plum | 1.53 | 1.53 | 2 | / | 5 | 52.03 | -27.58 |
| Jenkos' | Skyhill | 14:45 Kels | 3.05 | 3.05 | 1 | / | 7 | 24.93 | -51.10 |
| Oilywragg | Black Pirate | 15:45 Kels | 2.39 | 2.39 | 1 | / | 13 | 30.85 | -42.88 |
| adamanty | The Wicket Chicken | 15:00 Plum | 4.90 | 6.40 | 3 | / | 5 | 15.07 | 14.77 |
| flatcap | Uptown Harry | 13:45 Kels | 3.80 | 2.94 | 4 | / | 7 | 22.34 | 21.89 |
| smirnofftotherescue | Solar Heights (plc) | 19:00 Wolv | 2.67 | 2.67 | 2 | / | 7 | 30.69 | -51.26 |
| youresomean | Cap Du Mathan | 13:30 Plum | 1.91 | 1.74 | 1 | / | 9 | 52.50 | -47.78 |
| Andrew.in.Sweden | Sol De Mayo | 16:15 Kels | 2.97 | 2.97 | 3 | / | 7 | 22.21 | 21.76 |
| happysandwich | Maid In Manhattan | 13:15 Kels | 4.33 | 4.33 | R | / | 12 | 16.12 | 15.80 |
| rob22 | Vaziani | 15:00 Plum | 5.32 | 5.32 | 1 | / | 5 | 11.17 | -48.25 |
| dukeofpuke | Ask The Weatherman | 15:30 Plum | 4.50 | 5.00 | 1 | / | 7 | 11.63 | -40.69 |
| Tanglefoot | Cap Du Mathan | 13:30 Plum | 1.82 | 1.74 | 1 | / | 9 | 50.74 | -41.61 |
| Sontaranstratagem | Sirwilliamwallace | 13:15 Kels | 2.06 | 1.98 | 1 | / | 12 | 44.89 | -47.59 |
| The Management | Westend Theatre (plc) | 14:45 Kels | 2.12 | 2.12 | 2 | / | 7 | 44.63 | -49.99 |
| posy | Sol De Mayo (plc) | 16:15 Kels | 1.71 | 1.71 | 3 | / | 7 | 35.69 | 34.98 |
| pumphol | Lili Wen Fach (plc) | 17:00 Wolv | 1.80 | 1.80 | 3 | / | 7 | 38.30 | 37.54 |
| FOYLESWAR | Badayel (plc) | 18:00 Wolv | 1.56 | 1.56 | 2 | / | 6 | 72.68 | -40.70 |
| stridingedge | Greengage (plc) | 16:30 Wolv | 2.31 | 2.31 | 6 | / | 13 | 30.81 | 30.19 |
| Lee Ho Fooks | Maid In Manhattan (plc) | 13:15 Kels | 1.51 | 1.51 | R | / | 12 | 124.34 | 121.86 |
| angeleyz | Skyhill | 14:45 Kels | 3.05 | 3.05 | 1 | / | 7 | 24.89 | -51.02 |
| movewiththetimes | Cap Du Mathan | 13:30 Plum | 1.86 | 1.74 | 1 | / | 9 | 42.75 | -36.76 |
| Airman | Cap Du Mathan | 13:30 Plum | 1.74 | 1.74 | 1 | / | 9 | 55.33 | -40.95 |
| madhatters | Uptown Harry (plc) | 13:45 Kels | 1.77 | 1.77 | 4 | / | 7 | 67.21 | 65.87 |
| eastendboy | Seaforth | 17:30 Wolv | 4.60 | 5.60 | 5 | / | 12 | 16.10 | 15.78 |
| hello:-) | Sadma (plc) | 16:00 Plum | 1.81 | 1.81 | 3 | / | 9 | 71.93 | -58.27 |
| stewarts rise | Glorious Ceasar | 19:30 Wolv | 3.10 | 5.10 | 4 | / | 10 | 21.49 | 21.06 |
| china castle | Xian Express | 17:00 Wolv | 2.05 | 2.05 | 2 | / | 7 | 36.17 | 35.45 |
| Cheify | Sherpa Trail (plc) | 18:00 Wolv | 4.03 | 4.03 | 1 | / | 6 | 11.39 | -34.52 |
| sonofshinner | Whisky In The Jar | 15:00 Plum | 5.20 | 8.00 | P | / | 5 | 12.20 | 11.96 |
| uptheboro | The Con Man | 15:15 Kels | 2.16 | 2.16 | 1 | / | 6 | 34.74 | -40.30 |
| Thread Total | -£495.71 |
| Month Total | -£2,659.93 |
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