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Cash Is King
21 Jan 20 08:20
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Am losing count of the jump racing fixtures that Leicester has lost this season. Jump racing at Leicester is becoming something of a bad joke.

Jump racing at Lingfield has diminished to the point where they only race a couple of times each season with low grade races run on bad ground. It would be a pity if Leicester went the same way.

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By:
cosmik debris
When: 21 Jan 20 08:34
So they should race on frozen ground? Lingfield has only lost one jumps fixture this year (same as last year if  I recall rightly).
By:
elise
When: 21 Jan 20 09:18
i make it they've lost 4 jump and 3 flat since jan 2019, in this current jumps season I think it's 3 meetings
By:
elise
When: 21 Jan 20 09:19
as in that was leics, ling have lost one jump meeting in the current season as above
By:
Cash Is King
When: 21 Jan 20 09:40
Lingfield has far fewer jumps fixtures than they used to have. They also used to have at least one graded race in their jumps schedule. (From memory it was a Saturday fixture in December that was off more often that it was on.) If Lingfield invested in decent drainage they'd experience less waterlogging.

Leicester is a poor man's Sandown. The hurdles track is heavily watered in the summer during the flat racing season. I don't recall Sandown going descriptions of "soft, firm in places" at the start of each jumps season.  Perhaps there's an issue with drainage at Leicester as well?
By:
differentdrum
When: 21 Jan 20 13:13
Over the years it has thrown up some decent 2yo's but other than that it is a complete waste of space.

The quality of the jump racing is desperate. They should give up on it.
By:
ItsMeSwaddle
When: 21 Jan 20 13:17
May we add the flat garbage in from there too?
By:
sparrow
When: 21 Jan 20 13:41
No you may not add flat racing, thank you.
By:
onthejim
When: 21 Jan 20 15:03
Got to agree re the class of animal Leic (jumps) attracts nowadays, Jennie P ran many of her good nov chases there in the day, she always thought it was a good test ,shame how its gone downhill.
By:
jmdc
When: 21 Jan 20 15:14
They no longer water the chase track during the summer, so that is why the ground is always like concrete now.
By:
dambuster
When: 21 Jan 20 15:45
Bring back jump racing at Windsor, always good ground and plenty of runners
By:
dambuster
When: 21 Jan 20 15:45
and Nottingham
By:
jmdc
When: 21 Jan 20 15:48
But Leicester is a far better jumps track than either of those.  I used to love the cross fence at the top of the course which always caught a few out.
By:
The Knight
When: 22 Jan 20 10:15
I think I am correct in saying that Leicester has to draw its water from a source which is administered by either the local authority or a water company - IE not from the mains.

Hence, they are restricted as to the amount they can draw and, I believe, can only draw water for a certain part of the year. I can't recall whether they are prevented from drawing in the summer or the winter, but I wonder if this causes them problems?

Of course, the weather has been fairly extreme but then again I do not recall them losing so many meetings years ago when our summers were hotter and winters much, much colder.

Therefore, I wonder if they - like many, many tracks, are guilty of over-watering? In an effort to avoid race-horse injury they are desperate to produce good ground. Sadly, though, I suspect they are allowing a fear of animal activists to take the place of common sense - they would not be unique in the UK!

Any genuine fan of horse racing never, ever wants to see any horse injured but we also have the sense to know that good to firm going will not do that much damage providing horses are not over-raced on it. But trying to eliminate any going with firm in the description is leading to over-watering and then a track is vulnerable to more extreme weather.

This, I fear, may be a problem at Leicester.
By:
jmdc
When: 22 Jan 20 11:57
^ Yes, Jimmy Stevenson was discussing this at their last meeting, they can only draw the water in the summer.
By:
blunder
When: 22 Jan 20 12:50
the Knight you have no place in this forum ,offering sensible posts ,and not abusing anybody.
By:
The Knight
When: 22 Jan 20 16:23
blunder,

LOL.

Believe it or not, I can still remember when the BF forum was a place for genuine discussion and not a place for the loud-mouth 'my account has been closed' fantasists!!
By:
The Pies
When: 22 Jan 20 18:31
When watering has taken place I suspect it's not so much to avoid horse injuries but to keep field sizes up and consequently media rights payments
By:
Cash Is King
When: 28 Jan 20 12:06
Another Lingfield jumps meeting lost. Even when they do race the ground is horrible and bordering on the "unraceable".
By:
differentdrum
When: 28 Jan 20 12:17
Another rubbish card tomorrow.

Notice that Twiston is having more runners. Presumably, sees it as easy pickings.
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