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stridingedge
07 Jan 20 19:12
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Q and A’s regarding the competition format and rules.

How many selections must be made?

Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.

The calculation for no shows which cannot be exceeded is Days Of The Month - 25
So for January 31-25 = 6 possible days when an entrant can refrain from offering a selection

Void runners will not be viewed in the same way.Whilst substitutes can be offered at any point following all the usual rules, a failure to replace a void runner will not be used as a strike in the same way as a No Show.So in theory for a month, an entrant may still be accepted for posting less than 25 selections so long as the no show limit is not exceeded.

What criteria do selections need to satisfy?

Selections must be of odds no greater than 6.0 in any UK or IRE race under rules win or place markets on Betfair.

Are win and place markets settled in the same way?

Win markets allow for a choice between an early price to be taken or BFSP, whereas place markets will ALWAYS be settled at BFSP.The reason for the difference being the sluggish liquidity difference between those markets and thus the credibility of early prices.

When must selections be posted? (please read this carefully)

A selections thread for the following days racing will usually be posted between 4-5pm, in the event I am not around at this time the selections thread may be put up sooner.

The competition will have 2 phases for the selections process.
Phase 1 will be from the time the selections thread is posted until 8am the following day (race day).

In this phase there is an opportunity primarily for those that are not around on race day to still be able to take part.Selections given during this time will be settled at BFSP unless a bet meeting the competition liability (current bank / 20) is posted on the selections thread to show it was feasible. The reason for this request at this stage is the volatility and slackness of the market and subsequent ?? over the credibility of an early price taken.

Eg the starting liability in the comp is £50 so a qualifying bet at the stated price must be posted for a minimum of that liability to be settled as such.

Selections posted with prices that aren’t verified in the above fashion will still be allowed but settled at BFSP so long as they still satisfy the price limit of max odds 6.0.

Entrants are more than welcome to offer a couple of substitutes if they know they will not be around to change any selections deemed void.Substitutes that qualify will then be used in the event of a void first choice.

Phase 2 will be from 8am until t-2mins of race time (so 12:00 race would need entry no later than 11:57am) on the given race day.

In this phase of the market, Entrants can take an early price (no posted bet required) as last price matched when posting or leave their selection to be settled at BFSP.Note again that place market selections will always be settled at BFSP at whatever phase of the markets.

How are selections staked and returns calculated?

Selections are staked to a fixed 5% liability of an entrant’s current bank with a 2% commission rate which recently has become widely available on Betfair.

Where a price has been taken this will be used in settlement even if the BFSP returns greater than the permitted 6.0 max limit.
If deductions occur in the market after this price was taken, the taken price will be adjusted accordingly and so will the relevant staking for that selection to stay at the 5% liability of current bank.

Where a price has not been taken settlement will as in phase 1 of the market be at BFSP.

Where can the current standings be seen and who wins the comp?

The days results will be posted on the days selections thread on this forum, the overall standings will be over on the Your Comps forum.The winner will be the entrant with the biggest bank at the end of the month.
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Report uptheboro January 7, 2020 9:56 PM GMT
Dragon Destruval - 1.15 Ludlow

Cheers Striding
Report madhatter January 7, 2020 10:23 PM GMT
Dragon D'Estruval - 1.15 Ludlow

Thanks se
Report flushgordon1 January 8, 2020 7:52 AM GMT
Padstow Harbour Lud 3.15
Report TheNorfolkMafia January 8, 2020 8:58 AM GMT
Miss Austen - 3.45 Ludlow (Last price matched:3.6)
Report MinnieLAI January 8, 2020 9:32 AM GMT
Via Serendipity | 15.00 | Newcastle
Report exactaman January 8, 2020 9:32 AM GMT
12.45 ludlow | Mick Pastor | 1.96 (LPM)
Report posy January 8, 2020 9:46 AM GMT
estrella star  19.15kem @2.98
Report GLASGOWCALLING January 8, 2020 10:56 AM GMT
Raydiance - 3-0 Newcastle. @ 5.4.
Report youresomean January 8, 2020 11:11 AM GMT
Rolling Dylan - 1.15 Ludlow @ 3.85 matched

thanks
Report happysandwich January 8, 2020 11:13 AM GMT
Ludlow 1.15 Rolling Dylan @ 3.71
Report happysandwich January 8, 2020 11:17 AM GMT
^^^^

Sorry make that 3.85

Ludlow 1.15 Rolling Dylan @ 3.85
Report flatcap January 8, 2020 11:31 AM GMT
1.30New Brushwork PLM 2.68

Thanks
Report flatcap January 8, 2020 11:31 AM GMT
Shoud read LPM
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 11:34 AM GMT
I'm having a big dilemma about this one today flatcap. Cry
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 11:41 AM GMT
I think it would have the speed to travel over 5f at least this sort of grade, There's 2 or 3 that should help make this a test.

A few keen runners including Brushwork and that might be an issue at this distance, some of these would probably appreciate even further.

The trouble is a lot of the recent form is unreliable with today's opposition.

Might toss a coin or even go in on the place lay because if it runs choke out and the pace is decent enough may really struggle latter stages.

Decisions decisions. Laugh
Report Airman January 8, 2020 11:41 AM GMT
Ludlow 14:45 Kalooki

Many thanks SE, cheers.
Report Jenkos' January 8, 2020 11:44 AM GMT
Brushwork - 1:30 Newcastle @ 2.82
Many thanks Striding
Report The Management January 8, 2020 11:49 AM GMT
19:45 Kempton: Prince of Rome @ 3.85

Thanks Striding
Report Aquarius January 8, 2020 11:49 AM GMT
Operatic Export - 12.45 Ludlow (3.95)
Report Andrew.in.Sweden January 8, 2020 11:55 AM GMT
Mick Pastor - 12.45 Ludlow

Good luck all
Report adamanty January 8, 2020 11:57 AM GMT
Newcastle..2.00..Wasntexpectingthat..4.2.
Report flatcap January 8, 2020 12:28 PM GMT
Striding. Just thought the price was a value lay bet. 7F is a question mark for me didn't look to be crying out for the extra furlong. I was thinking about the place lay earlier and going for broke, but resisted. Thought Intisaab was a big runner but been a drifter all morning.
Report rob22 January 8, 2020 12:29 PM GMT
Heath Charnock 2.00 New 5.9
Thanks Striding
Report east end boy January 8, 2020 12:31 PM GMT
6.15 Thai Terrier
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 12:32 PM GMT
The trouble for me is the opposition is full of holes in recent form/well being so it comes down to a conundrum with price.

I was thinking last night anything south of 2.5 would probably be too tempting to resist.
Report flatcap January 8, 2020 12:41 PM GMT
I can see it being nearer 3 than 2.5 at the off time. We'll find out in 50 minutes
Report sonofshinner January 8, 2020 12:42 PM GMT
Lud 2.15 Bolving@3.4..cheers stride..
Report kemo sabe January 8, 2020 12:49 PM GMT
this thread seems to be thriving with lots of interesting posts , a really good job done by all its posters and such a lot of work by good old stridingedge ,  its of course a thankless task ;  work from a few folk like him make the forums decline  no longer a forgone conclusion , well done you have my full support , hurrah for striding
Report Movewiththetimes January 8, 2020 12:55 PM GMT
Lomu (place) New 2-30 Thanks SE
Report sadlers January 8, 2020 1:00 PM GMT
1pm Newcastle hufflepuff place
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:02 PM GMT
sadlers

I'm really sorry pal but yesterday was the cut off for January if you hadn't entered by then. Sad
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:07 PM GMT
Over the month entrants must make 1 selection on at least 25 days.Anyone can join in at any time as long as this criteria can be met, so for the January comp, the 7th would be the latest possible time to join in.

Sorry to be a jobsworth ,If we carry on for February you are more than welcome to join in then Wink
Report sadlers January 8, 2020 1:07 PM GMT
no problem striding,good luck with your selections.
Report OilyWragg January 8, 2020 1:10 PM GMT
1.15 Dragon Destruval, place market. Thank you.
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:13 PM GMT
Cheers sadlers al the best.
Report SontaranStratagem January 8, 2020 1:18 PM GMT
Brushwork 1:30 Newcastle 2.72

Thanks SE
Report madhatters January 8, 2020 1:25 PM GMT
Little Jo 1.30 Newc PL Lay

Summat different
We'll see Grin
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:25 PM GMT
I've waited too long for price Flatcap GL and Jenkos too hope you get it beat Wink

lost bottle to place lay it.
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:26 PM GMT
And Sontaran!
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:27 PM GMT
That's the one I thought might win hatters. Shocked
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 8, 2020 1:28 PM GMT
Brushwork 1.30 N
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 8, 2020 1:29 PM GMT
13.28 am I too late?
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:30 PM GMT
See if anyone objects LEE HO
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 8, 2020 1:31 PM GMT
I will if it winsLaugh
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:31 PM GMT
I stuck to the rules earlier with sadlers on a different issue so sorry yes too late mate Sad
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:32 PM GMT
That's the first time that's happened and we are on day 8 Shocked
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 8, 2020 1:32 PM GMT
No problem striding, my fault anyway
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:34 PM GMT
Personally a bit of a Cry but wd guys all round there Cool
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 8, 2020 1:35 PM GMT
Next fav then

Lud 1.45 Dolphin Square
Report flatcap January 8, 2020 1:37 PM GMT
Very pleasing result.
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:41 PM GMT
At least it placed flatcap that would of been double Devil for me. Happy
Report Deplasterer January 8, 2020 1:43 PM GMT
1.45 dolphin Square place lay
Report Deplasterer January 8, 2020 1:43 PM GMT
Too late SE, I'll pick another Hail Mary laterWink
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 1:45 PM GMT
Something in the water today. Laugh
Report stewarts rise January 8, 2020 1:52 PM GMT
Raydiance-3.00 Newcastle

Thanks SE.
Report FOYLESWAR January 8, 2020 2:03 PM GMT
prince of rome 19.45 kempton .thank you striding !
Report madhatters January 8, 2020 2:04 PM GMT
To me stride it had been out of touch since a year ago
So was either a plot & wins by miles or flops again
Pays me money to find out Grin
Keeps the ave down too
Report madhatters January 8, 2020 2:05 PM GMT
UL Lee
Lucky Plast
Report happysandwich January 8, 2020 2:06 PM GMT
I thought Lee Ho’s 13.28 post was good.

The race was officially off at 13.32
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 2:07 PM GMT
Wink yes I mentioned earlier most of them had ?? I wanted a price on the fav that didn't happen but thems the breaks!
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 2:07 PM GMT
^ Hatters
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 2:09 PM GMT
Happy it doesn't matter what time the race was off the rules are the rules.

I can't bend them for some and not others.
Report hello :-) January 8, 2020 2:12 PM GMT
bolving  2.15 Ludlow cheers and good luck
Report Lee Ho Fooks January 8, 2020 2:13 PM GMT
^^ No problem with that SE
Report Cheify January 8, 2020 2:25 PM GMT
15.30 Newcastle Union 2.2
Report happysandwich January 8, 2020 2:29 PM GMT
Lee, I was just trying to give my competitors a little hope as we enter the last 3 weeks. Laugh
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 2:35 PM GMT
You are going along nicely Happy. Happy
Report Deplasterer January 8, 2020 2:42 PM GMT
Try again SECrazy

Another Touch 3.00 Newc place lay

I need about 4 Hail Mary's in a rowLaugh
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 2:46 PM GMT
Wink
Report pumphol. January 8, 2020 2:48 PM GMT
Another Tough 3.00 New @ 2.6

Thanks
Report pumphol. January 8, 2020 2:49 PM GMT
Another Touch Crazy
Report tanglefoot January 8, 2020 2:52 PM GMT
Via Serendipity 3.00 Newcastle@4.5
Report tanglefoot January 8, 2020 3:03 PM GMT
At long last one of my bookies lays comes to light
Report smirnoff2therescue January 8, 2020 3:09 PM GMT
Bezzas Lad - 4.45 Kempton 4.2
Report Marathon Man January 8, 2020 3:22 PM GMT
Newcastle 15:30.  Union.   2.34
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 8, 2020 3:30 PM GMT
Fortamour  4,30 newcastle
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 8, 2020 3:38 PM GMT
lucky this is for fun,, ffs,, bad day it looks WhoopsWhoopsWhoopsWhoops
Report bustino January 8, 2020 3:43 PM GMT
ive bit of word for RINTY MCGINTY 4.15 at kempton if anyone interested........its from the yard but horse seems a bit of a dodgepot but its a 0-50 dont think ull find a worse race ...........first run for spiller
Report Deplasterer January 8, 2020 3:50 PM GMT
Being backed Bustino atm.
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 3:51 PM GMT
GL with that Bustino Wink,I see mick A has ex Haggas regressive sort (no price though).He's got to be one of the best at reviving this sort of animal from other yards.

Not a race for me to get involved in.
Report dukeofpuke January 8, 2020 4:02 PM GMT
5.15 Kempton Malmesbury Abbey 5.6
Report china castle January 8, 2020 4:03 PM GMT
Silent Echo - 6.45 Kempton  Place

Thanks
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 4:04 PM GMT
I've clocked it today duke. Laugh
Report 11kv January 8, 2020 4:09 PM GMT
16.15 Kemp N over J 2.72

Ta
Report Cheify January 8, 2020 4:23 PM GMT
Has Rob22 put up yet, can't see it yet?
Report rob22 January 8, 2020 4:29 PM GMT
Cheify posted 12.29
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 4:29 PM GMT
14::00 Newcastle Cheify Heath Charnock
Report Cheify January 8, 2020 4:33 PM GMT
Congrats Rob & Bustino I'm nearly as good at the other end 1L 6W making a profit now backing them lol
Report Cheify January 8, 2020 4:38 PM GMT
Is Newcastle off due to Floodlight failure?
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 4:39 PM GMT
1.01 that looks the case now
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 4:44 PM GMT
mymumsfinethankyou your pick VOID at Newcastle.

You can select again at Kempton if you wish.
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 8, 2020 4:46 PM GMT
ok stride  cheers
Report mymumsfinethankyou January 8, 2020 4:53 PM GMT
Raining Fire  6.15 kempton
Report dukeofpuke January 8, 2020 5:37 PM GMT

Jan 8, 2020 -- 4:04PM, stridingedge wrote:


I've clocked it today duke.


wish you hadnt Laugh

Report FOYLESWAR January 8, 2020 7:18 PM GMT
striding my selection has drifted out to around 7 but was around 4.2 when i posted but forgot to put that price in .will my  my selection  be void ?
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 7:42 PM GMT
What is it about today Cry

unfortunately yes mate it will be VOID
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 8:03 PM GMT


    Entrant        Selection        Race        Odds        BFSP        Re        su        lt        Stake        RaceP&L   
                                                                               
    invicta        Padstow Harbour        15:15 Ludl        3.60        3.60        6        /        11        18.47        18.10   
    flushgordon1        Padstow Harbour        15:15 Ludl        3.60        3.60        6        /        11        18.73        18.36   
    madhatter        Dragon D'estruval        13:15 Ludl        4.40        4.40        1        /        7        14.80        -50.30   
    Minnie LAI        Via Serendipity        15:00 Newc        4.50        4.50        2        /        5        12.70        12.45   
    bustino        N J Over        16:15 Kemp        2.77        2.77        10        /        12        33.61        32.93   
    GlASGOWCALLING        Raydiance        15:00 Newc        5.40        4.50        4        /        5        11.43        11.20   
    mymumsfinethankyou        Raining Fire        18:15 Kemp        2.41        2.41        1        /        5        39.87        -56.21   
    The Norfolk Mafia        Miss Austen        15:45 Ludl        3.60        4.82        1        /        11        18.88        -49.10   
    11kv        N J Over        16:15 Kemp        2.72        2.77        10        /        12        30.69        30.08   
    exactaman        Mick Pastor        12:45 Ludl        1.96        2.99        1        /        10        46.29        -44.44   
    Deplasterer        Another Touch (plc)        15:00 Newc        1.49        1.49        1        /        5        83.33        -40.83   
    Jenkos'        Brushwork        13:30 Newc        2.82        3.36        3        /        9        26.87        26.33   
    Oilywragg        Dragon D'estruval (plc)        13:15 Ludl        2.47        2.47        1        /        7        32.24        -47.40   
    Different Gravy        No Selection                                                                   
    adamanty        wasntexpectingthat        14:00 Newc        4.20        3.10        2        /        8        17.00        16.66   
    flatcap        Brushwork        13:30 Newc        2.68        3.36        3        /        9        32.41        31.76   
    smirnofftotherescue        Bezzas Lad        16:45 Kemp        4.20        3.88        5        /        10        16.35        16.02   
    youresomean        Rolling Dylan        13:15 Ludl        3.85        4.43        3        /        7        17.20        16.86   
    Andrew.in.Sweden        Mick Pastor        12:45 Ludl        2.99        2.99        1        /        10        23.78        -47.32   
    happysandwich        Rolling Dylan        13:15 Ludl        3.85        4.43        3        /        7        18.29        17.92   
    rob22        Heath Charnock        14:00 Newc        5.90        4.83        5        /        8        11.24        11.02   
    pete de        No Selection                                                                   
    dukeofpuke        Malmesbury Abbey        17:15 Kemp        5.60        3.90        1        /        9        11.54        -53.06   
    Aquarius        Operatic Export        12:45 Ludl        3.95        3.00        10        /        10        16.00        15.68   
    Tanglefoot        Via Serendipity        15:00 Newc        4.50        4.50        2        /        5        13.92        13.64   
    Sontaranstratagem        Brushwork        13:30 Newc        2.72        3.36        3        /        9        29.92        29.32   
    The Management        Prince Of Rome        19:45 Kemp        3.85        9.33        6        /        10        18.97        18.59   
    posy        Estrela Star        19:15 Kemp        2.98        2.91        3        /        10        23.03        22.57   
    pumphol        Another Touch        15:00 Newc        2.60        2.54        1        /        5        26.89        -43.02   
    Marathon Man        Union        15:30 Newc        2.34        2.26        1        /        10        38.16        -51.13   
    FOYLESWAR        Void Selection                                                                   
    stridingedge        No Selection                                                                   
    Lee Ho Fooks        Dolphin Square        13:45 Ludl        2.97        2.97        1        /        6        29.92        -58.94   
    angeleyz        Dolphin Square        13:45 Ludl        2.97        2.97        1        /        6        27.14        -53.46   
    movewiththetimes        Lomu (plc)        14:30 Newc        2.91        2.91        5        /        7        23.56        23.09   
    ItsMeSwaddle        No Selection                                                                   
    Airman        Kalooki        14:45 Ludl        2.38        2.38        1        /        15        31.93        -44.06   
    madhatters        Little Jo (plc)        13:30 Newc        2.72        2.72        5        /        9        30.85        30.23   
    eastendboy        Thai Terrier        18:15 Kemp        2.54        2.54        2        /        5        30.37        29.77   
    hello:-)        Bolving        14:15 Ludl        2.56        2.56        5        /        7        31.25        30.63   
    stewarts rise        Raydiance        15:00 Newc        4.50        4.50        4        /        5        15.16        14.86   
    china castle        Silent Echo (plc)        18:45 Kemp        2.49        2.49        2        /        5        28.74        -42.83   
    Cheify        Union        15:30 Newc        2.20        2.26        1        /        10        33.07        -39.69   
    waccoe75        No Selection                                                                   
    sonofshinner        Bolving        14:15 Ludl        3.40        2.56        5        /        7        20.12        19.72   
    uptheboro        Dragon D'estruval        13:15 Ludl        4.40        4.40        1        /        7        14.94        -50.79   




Thread Total -£264.82
Month Total -£822.15
Report FOYLESWAR January 8, 2020 8:04 PM GMT
ok stride no probs
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 8:07 PM GMT
Been one of them days mate no probs before and just about every rule under scrutiny today, have to stick by the rules I'm afraid.

GL tomorrow Wink
Report stridingedge January 8, 2020 8:11 PM GMT
Table will be up on Your Comps in a couple of mins.
Cheers
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