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I know its mainly garbage but seems odd that there's no meetings all next week

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By:
GEORGE.B
When: 09 Nov 19 23:39
It's so that Luke Morris and Adam Kirby can have a holiday without fear of anyone else nicking their rides.
By:
geoff m
When: 09 Nov 19 23:40
A six-day break will be introduced for Flat racing participants at the end of the Turf season in November. In addition there will be an intended five-day break in March towards the end of the All-Weather season (although additional late notice fixtures may be programmed during this period in exceptional circumstances if all Jump fixtures on a day look likely to be abandoned).
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 09 Nov 19 23:40
cheers geoff Cool
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 00:09
Did Geoff actually answer your question, or merely confirm what you already knew, ie that there is no Flat racing next week?

The question should be, should it not, why does everyone have to take a week's holiday at the same time?

There's less racing, stables are winding down anyway, and plenty will be having quiet weeks from now on.

Suppose the jumps programme happened to be wiped out because of the weather during this particular week, how much would that cost the industry because there is no AW racing either?

My original reply wasn't being facetious, because it seems this week long break has largely been at the request of the PJA.

I don't know, are there Flat jocks out there who would rather been working this week because they've got families to feed and houses to run / pay for?

And as the boycott from earlier this year proved, whatever the situation, there are still people out there who want to race on.
By:
chavman
When: 10 Nov 19 00:12
george showing his sensitive side once again,fragile as a AJs chin
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 00:19
It doesn't affect me one bit, Chav, and anyway, after my 200-1 BFSP winner this week at Sedgefield, I'm quite looking forward to the juvenile hurdles, but after reading what came across in my view as a backslapping piece by Lee Mottershead on the week long break, it just got me thinking about it and asking: who actually is benefitting from this pause?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 00:22
And thinking about it, there were massive fields declared for Doncaster, so there are evidently a lot of horses fit and ready to run, so how many trainers who had intended to have runners there would have been looking to the AW this week as an alternative?
By:
chavman
When: 10 Nov 19 00:27
the inclement weather is coincidental george and thus has no cogent relevance to your concern
By:
chavman
When: 10 Nov 19 00:30
if you think i talk pony,you talk more
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 00:31
chav, think about high summer, when there are 8 meetings on and they somehow find enough jockeys to cover all the rides (granted some jocks will be covering 2 meetings), does it not therefore mean when there are just two meetings on, if that, there are a lot of jockeys essentially unemployed?

And are all these 'unemployed' jocks happy about this week long break?
By:
chavman
When: 10 Nov 19 00:34
yes,on the bob and bevy and unaccountable
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 00:37
I'm just putting the alternative view to Motterhead's (imo) PJA backslapping piece
By:
chavman
When: 10 Nov 19 00:39
god forbid they might not consider themselves slaves to punters
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 00:41
chav, when you have a week's holiday, do everyone else take one too?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 00:42
* does
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 00:51
I stand to be corrected on this, but I'm going to assume stable staff do get annual holiday entitlement?

So we can presume this is largely a PJA driven project, which brings me back to my original question, is this all about, so the likes of higher profile jocks like Kirby and Morris, can have a week off without the fear of missing out on a few rides?
By:
chavman
When: 10 Nov 19 00:56
the vagaries of statutory holiday may escape you as much as paying your butler and driver their legal entitlement
By:
chavman
When: 10 Nov 19 00:57
Lord George,how fabulous
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 00:58
By the way, I actually do advocate a week's holiday during the Flat season and this was what I posted / suggested on an earlier thread

Surely for maximum benefit the time to do this would be mid to late July, when there has been weeks and weeks of evening racing, with weeks of it still to come, and of course, the weather hopefully would be nicer too, plus it would coincide with the start of the school holidays to help those stable staff who have kids to looks after.

Of course this isn't going to happen because it would cost the levy too much!

Having the week break now is all good and well, and I have no problem with it, but won't most Flat stables be winding down anyway and having weeks when they don't have any runners?
By:
chavman
When: 10 Nov 19 01:05
a humanitarian gesture that should be applauded george
By:
chavman
When: 10 Nov 19 01:06
i might promote your for some sort of nobel prize
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 01:08
Thank you chavvers, I'm with Gene on this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldcZkWLOTCI
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Nov 19 08:37
George is right and it's a stupid decision at this time of the year.
By:
Willie Shafter.
When: 10 Nov 19 11:15
did craig attend Eton? i dont mean the netto there.
By:
john92
When: 10 Nov 19 13:09
Since there has been 2 AW meetings most evenings for the last 3 weeks, meetings that should have been on next week were rescheduled. Presumably the jockeys were able to save those earnings for this week's food bill.
By:
posy
When: 10 Nov 19 13:18
Bad idea to cancel all AW meetings ;if there's much more rain might find more jump meetings off.
By:
john92
When: 10 Nov 19 13:23
(although additional late notice fixtures may be programmed during this period in exceptional circumstances if all Jump fixtures on a day look likely to be abandoned)
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 13:23
That's a very good point John, however, those additional meetings were actually part of a trial

Additionally, to benefit both retail and digital betting operators, measures have been agreed to schedule floodlit cards to try and provide a more continuous and consistent betting product throughout the course of afternoon and evening racing, as well as the scheduling of a trial of 15 additional floodlit fixtures in the autumn to test the popularity of staging two such fixtures on the same evening with the betting public.


https://www.britishhorseracing.com/press_releases/british-racings-2019-fixture-list-published/
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 10 Nov 19 13:29
Suppose you could be cynical though and say they've given them the week off but found a way to ensure the fixtures weren't lost
By:
john92
When: 10 Nov 19 13:36
The additional ones were on Wednesdays and Thursdays only so obviously the second meetings on other days were rescheduled. Nobody is missing out on income.
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Nov 19 13:40
john92......... Nobody is missing out on income.






Tell that to some of the more unfashionable jockeys.
By:
john92
When: 10 Nov 19 13:43
Who I'm guessing found it easier to get a full book of rides when the more fashionable jockeys went to the better evening meeting?
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Nov 19 13:46
There should be no week off on the AW at this time of the year and why anyone should desire it makes no sense.
By:
chavman
When: 10 Nov 19 13:52
its not a bad idea tbf
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Nov 19 13:54
Why is it a good idea?
By:
mrcombustible
When: 10 Nov 19 14:14
It is a ridiculous situation
By:
bettinghelp
When: 10 Nov 19 15:04
25 Jul 2019 - SOUTHWELL racecourse was forced to abandon the final two races on the card due to the extreme heat.

And yet in a week when snow and -8C temperatures are forecast, no all weather racing is scheduled.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 10 Nov 19 15:13
Strange they do it during an international football break, so basically no horse racing nor football during an evening for the week.
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