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The most interesting part is hidden right at the bottom
Weight issues forced Morgan into premature retirement in 1991 aged just 28, after which he ran a London pub before taking roles with Graham McCourt, David Wintle and Richard Phillips. He also appeared as an expert witness for former trainer Jim Best at his 2016 disciplinary panel hearing. It said its part of a major investigation and he was a name during that not yet resolved investigation, his name popped up i think there will be a lot more to come and looks like he has been dragged into this while theyre seriously after others ? clever of the post to leave a clue or two |
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Hardly a big scandal if he lost money during his betting life. He had a couple of good seasons for John Edwards and has struggled to make a living since apparently. He broke the rules but didn't profit from it.
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He obviously considers it revenge for helping Best's defence in 2016,nothing to see really as we all know its an everyday occurrence and occasionally the authorities throw a few scraps to the wolves.
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Some of them but he lost on many others. They will always highlight out the ones that won (or lost in this case
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Was he really top jock at Cheltenham ; I can barely remember him.
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posy 04 Oct 19 14:58
Was he really top jock at Cheltenham ; I can barely remember him. Tom Morgan, 56, was one of the leading riders of the 1980s, a period in which he was champion jump jockey in Ireland and top jockey at the Cheltenham Festival. He shared the jockeys’ title with Frank Berry at the end of the 1985-86 season before moving to Britain in 1987 where he linked up successfully with trainer John Edwards, including when capturing the 1988 Queen Mother Champion Chase on Pearlyman. Morgan, who also claimed big-race wins in the 1982 Supreme Novices’ Hurdle on Miller Hill, 1988 Eider Chase on Star Of Screen and 1989 Cathcart Chase on Observer Corps, was the leading rider at the 1989 Cheltenham Festival, the same year he partnered Yahoo to finish second behind the great Desert Orchid in the Cheltenham Gold Cup. Weight issues forced Morgan into premature retirement in 1991 aged just 28, after which he ran a London pub before taking roles with Graham McCourt, David Wintle and Richard Phillips. He also appeared as an expert witness for former trainer Jim Best at his 2016 disciplinary panel hearing. |
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Thank you sparrow;my memory is certainly not what it once was
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He rode the great Pearlyman and Yahoo , he was a top jockey in that era.
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I think he rode for Dessie Hughes in Ireland before coming to UK, may have had a brother that rode K Morgan.
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Rode a lot for John Edwards, think Venetia Williams may have been at the stable at the time.
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SSR just issued apology that they incorrectly named jockey as Tom Malone!
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Be surprised if most jocks/trainers were not laying horses , much easier to provide a loser than a winner , .... Betting exchanges too open to abuse by the pure nature of them ...... Most average joe punter much better off if we had just one tote , imo :-)
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Of course laying is a way for professionals to make money but to think that exchanges made it much easier is false. All you had to do before exchanges was have a quiet word with a bookmaker or even shake your head and he would reward you for a sure loser. No way that could be detected unless the bookie spilled the beans.
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The real difference is in running. When Betfair started betting in running I mentioned it to a trainer who used to ride for Fred Rimell. He told me that Fred told him that he could have made a fortune if in running betting was allowed as a good trainer can see within a few furlongs if their horse is on form. Trainers are not allowed to now of course???
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Read William Hill's biography and find out all about laying non starters before the exchanges.
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I hope The BHA have not forgotten the'laying' of Douvan, Vautour, Faugheen, Melon and Yorkhill at Closutton stable. And, I'm 100% certain someone/entity with inside info made a significant sum of money 'laying' these horses as every one of them ran a pants race or did not take part at all.
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He has the inside track and only made 1700 quid. Not very good at it was he.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsau32l_vYI
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As bad a punter as a jockey ,bet he has been on the forum slavering sheet for years
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The crook got caught end off, and as for his advice of dont sign the stable register and your all right
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Whose to say they don’t tell their mates to lay em
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Sageform,absolute nonsense saying everyone went to a bookie to lay them before the exchanges,obviously there will have been occasions when this happened but nothing has gone on with the exchanges,dream on.
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Sorry should have read nothing like what has gone on with the exchanges.
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All the lower tier jocks have putter oners ,its the only way to survive....
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Why don't they open accounts in friends/accomplice's name?
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When there's a will, there is a way similarly for Betfair too. If Betfair are genuinely keen on fighting this fraud just follow the money, unless Betfair put commission before integrity and responsibility. This fraud can only continue for a short time if Betfair have the will to stop it.
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The idea that these practices will be mostly eliminated if Betfair clamped down on them is ridiculous. Skulduggery in racing has been going on since time immemorial and I would argue that it was even worse when I started betting regularly in the 1960s with widespread doping etc.
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The doping in the 90s of Norwich and Bravefoot ect was allowed to go on imo ,the game was shown to be corrupt to the core . Was a disgusting episode and not many said anything ,Big Mac had plenty to say but he was swimming against a tsunami .
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You would struggle to lay place only to a bookmaker
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ribero I didn't say everybody but the big bookmakers had staff who got inside info from most big yards. If a trainer backed his own horse they knew it was trying and the price was wiped off pretty fast. My point was that there was absolutely no traceability in those days and it was not even against the rules but now racing professionals are not allowed to bet on exchanges or anywhere else. I was a very small owner in the eighties and nineties and bet on the rails but the bookies knew which yard I had my horses with and so did other punters. I remember one day at Towcester when my horse was strongly fancied. I backed it with a bookmaker I knew and told him it would probably win so drop the price. After it did win I had a chat with him and he was not happy as a pro punter followed me in with a bigger bet before he could wipe the price! If you are seen in the paddock with a fancied horse and then have a bet you will probably pick up a tail. It was ever thus.
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No worries sageform,trainers no doubt still bet with bookmakers today who get their card marked,the ability to lay horses to lose has opened up an altogether different income stream for anyone with inside information nowadays,personally I don't have a particular problem with it as have got used to it.
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I backed it with a bookmaker I knew and told him it would probably win so drop the price
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What do you fancy in Arc caveman ?
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*chaveman
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*chavman
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Sorry old sport
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ffs
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