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ZEALOT
29 Sep 19 15:13
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.. and no racing chat in between races . GOODBYE RTV . When my 12 months runs out you are GONE .
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Report tips • September 29, 2019 3:21 PM BST
no racing chat is not that a good thing
Report ZEALOT • September 29, 2019 3:32 PM BST
The racing aint too bad with the sound down but the whole set up - boring Gary O brien ( personality of a door ) the commentators are just as bad . Its just in a terrible state at the minute . I am really looking forward to the end of my subs
Report Aladdin Sane • September 29, 2019 3:44 PM BST
Have to agree. Yesterday there was no build up to the Group 1 Middle Park Stakes because of a h’cap hurdle from Navan taking place 5 mins prior to the off time. They switched to Newmarket JUST in time to catch them leaving the stalls. 
Instead of what was once a well presented Horse Racing programme Saturday saturation has made the experience similar to being in a betting shop with split screens all over the place as we’re switched from race to race as soon as runners cross a finishing line. Replays and analysis are becoming a thing of the past as they just don’t have time to squeeze them in before another race is off and running somewhere.
Let’s not forget that we’ve also lost Ascot and Chester from their coverage which, in my opinion has contributed to a quantity over quality feel to the Channel which saddens me, as when I first subscribed I felt that the priority was the other way around.
Report jamesdean • September 29, 2019 3:46 PM BST
They over compensate to show the Irish as well after they complained about the coverage when rtv first took over.

Rtv sh1t scared to upset them now
Report sparrow • September 29, 2019 3:57 PM BST
Just far too much for one channel and it's as simple as that.
Report The Dragon • September 29, 2019 4:00 PM BST
yup
Report liberator of the oppressed • September 29, 2019 4:02 PM BST
Cancelled mine is dross now most of the time bookmaker fodder
Report the.mad.dog.man • September 29, 2019 4:08 PM BST
irish racing be gone
Report Cider • September 29, 2019 4:12 PM BST
Still enough time to squeeze in Nevo's valuable input.
Report Johnny_Mustang • September 29, 2019 4:12 PM BST
REPORTED
Report number 7 • September 29, 2019 4:22 PM BST
It was never going to work but the racing from Ireland is good, its all down to making money
Report grayhawk • September 29, 2019 4:33 PM BST
The majority said this would be the case when RTV took over the Irish Racing....the quicker the contract runs and it returns to SKY the better
Report jamesdean • September 29, 2019 4:39 PM BST
When does their contract for Irish racing run out?
Report kevo • September 29, 2019 4:49 PM BST
Wasn't it SIS who decided to switch Irish racing from ATR to RUK?
Report grayhawk • September 29, 2019 5:41 PM BST
Not sure James..i'm thinking it's around 4 or 5 years Sad
Report crepello • September 29, 2019 5:43 PM BST
Just cancelled and been with them since the start - we knew they would need two channels when it was mooted that they were going to cover the Irish Racing and yet it seems they didn't - I will watch any race I have bet in elsewhere.
Report onlooker • September 29, 2019 5:44 PM BST
Aladdin Sane - posts  earlier ...


'Instead of what was once a well presented Horse Racing programme Saturday saturation has made the experience similar to being in a betting shop with split screens all over the place as we’re switched from race to race as soon as runners cross a finishing line.
Replays and analysis are becoming a thing of the past as they just don’t have time to squeeze them in before another race is off and running somewhere.

..... in my opinion has contributed to a quantity over quality feel to the Channel which saddens me, as when I first subscribed I felt that the priority was the other way around.'
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PERFECT SUMMARY- Absolutely SPOT ON

RTV are most certainly having their 'RATNERS' MOMENT ... and alienating far more viewers, and subscribers - than they are (un)likely to attract new ones.


An archetypal Foot-Shooting exercise and example - and a Massive OWN  GOAL, by them
Report Percy Filth • September 29, 2019 5:59 PM BST
A lot better now with the decreased delay on Irish Racing and no chat - what a bonus!
Report mrcombustible • September 29, 2019 6:13 PM BST
Yesterday I choose to watch Newmarket on ITV rather that RTV as I was not interested in the Navan card
Report 1st time poster • September 29, 2019 6:17 PM BST
they,ll now be thinking over the worst high quality jumps meetings on a sun in itreland compared to dross in uk,think it was all about irish jumps racing as compared to flat
Report RothmanMike • September 29, 2019 8:02 PM BST
Prefer RTV and the Irish stuff, don't care about the commentary, can usually work it out for myself.
To be honest, I'll watch anything that avoids Hayley Moore, Chapman, Fitzgerald, Weaver, and the supporting cast.
Report MasterPapa • September 29, 2019 8:41 PM BST
I cancelled my subscription last week after having been with them continuously since 2005.Like an earlier poster said it is just like spending the afternoon in the betting shop,being bombarded with one race straight after another.
There is often no time to look back at a race and show a head on view because there is another race due to start.                                     
I get fed up hearing them say we can watch on racingtv extra to avoid clashes and split screens.I do not want to watch on a tiny laptop screen.Getting the Irish racing was a mistake in my opinion without the option to broadcast it on a 2nd channel.Maybe they will get the message if people keep on cancelling,but i doubt it.
Report sparrow • September 29, 2019 8:57 PM BST
As I have said many times before Racing TV or RUK actually started with 2 channels the other one was used for American Racing at night.
Report ILoveThirskSprints • September 29, 2019 8:59 PM BST
When you go to watch a replay of the Middle Park you get a bloody split screen! Surely they should have sorted that part of their service out
Report duncan idaho • September 29, 2019 9:04 PM BST
ZEALOT  29 Sep 19 15:32

Its just in a terrible state at the minute . I am really looking forward to the end of my subs



Top tip: just stop watching now...dont delay your happiness..no more looking forward and waiting for that happy day...voila...bingo...simples
Report sparrow • September 29, 2019 9:08 PM BST
Yes duncan but you assured us there would be virtually no problems with split screens.
Report 1st time poster • September 29, 2019 9:21 PM BST
another 100% car crash predicted by every single person besides the one who made the decision,obviously big bucks clouded someones vision

but yet another situation where my new lifes moto,no matter how low you rate yourself always believe till proved otherwise the other fella is thicker than you, trust me saves a lot of heartache
Report ZEALOT • September 29, 2019 9:38 PM BST
Duncan i pay £25 a month . I will wait until its over
Report Darlo Bantam • September 29, 2019 11:47 PM BST
Irish racing has been ruined by Racing TV.
Report foxy • September 30, 2019 8:14 AM BST
racing uk is better than ever ,if the Irish racing doesn’t suit you just pick your meeting and put on demand on ,I personally have little interest in moderate flat racing both uk and Irish so just choose to watch Irish national hunt ,nobody is been forced to watch or listen to anything or anybody,all in all with club days and the winter season ticket it’s fantastic value and the on demand is excellent.
Report foxy • September 30, 2019 8:16 AM BST
Good morning darlo

You say Irish racing has been ruined by racing tv can you remind me how ?
Report 1st time poster • September 30, 2019 9:42 AM BST
lets be honest beside,s for the real devotee,s racing tv is 2 races a day at chelt and Aintree from been not worth the effort,money
itv do all races at ascot,
the 4 hour build ups watching tom Stanley,wine tipster eating ,drinking produce no ordinary people can afford has long past its sell by date
Report jmdc • September 30, 2019 11:59 AM BST
Irish racing coverage is a lot better now than it was on ATR, especially with more presenters and interviews of winning jockeys and trainers.  Unfortunately, they try to pass off RTV Extra as another channel instead of the equivalent of BBC3.  This is a deplorable scam, and is particularly noticeable on busy Saturdays when even the results are sometimes not posted.  At Navan on Saturday we got no show at all on the final two races, so consequently were unable to bet - I don't care what they put up online cos I can't watch the digital channel and the rest of the races together, and I am on Virgin Media anyway so I can't receive the beast! 

Aladdin Sane, just one point about the Middle Park on Saturday - they were there and ready to show it until Siskin was withdrawn, and sensibly crossed to Navan which was already off and running.

Duncan Idaho, I told you you were a fool last December - nothing has changed to make me withdraw those comments!
Report duncan idaho • September 30, 2019 1:55 PM BST
sparrow   29 Sep 19 21:08

Yes duncan but you assured us there would be virtually no problems with split screen



Really cant be ar$ed going back 9 months to find the posts in question but (paraphrasing) i stated that there would be no more than 3-4 days with the potential for clashes upto the end of March (i went through the first 3 months fixture list in response to someone who said clashes would be a near daily occurence), and yes i agreed that Summer Saturdays would obviously be an issue

it's not ideal but (as said at time) as someone who rarely bothered with ATR cos of the time delay and poor quality pics, i'm still in favour of the switch (plus i dont think ATR was immune to split screens either)

hardly controversial stuff to be fondly remembering a year on!
Report sparrow • September 30, 2019 1:58 PM BST
You repeated it time after time when people voiced their concerns and that is why we all remember it.
Report duncan idaho • September 30, 2019 2:05 PM BST
but it isnt a daily occurence (and barely happened at all in the 3 months mentioned) and those people were scaremongering

probably said it 3 or 4 times...the reason you remember it is cos it was a lone dissenting opinion against the constant negativity and moaning on here...that is what's repeated time after time 

if people are honest, i think they'd say there have been fewer clashes than they feared but i might be wrong
Report foxy • September 30, 2019 2:16 PM BST
Am I right in thinking everyone has the on demand facilities?
Report TheAnorak • September 30, 2019 2:21 PM BST
Foxy,

Long term subscriber, but not sure what you mean by 'on demand'. But if it involves watching online, I don't have that option, because I access RTV through Virgin Media
Report sparrow • September 30, 2019 2:23 PM BST
jmdc also has the Virgin Media problem.
Report foxy • September 30, 2019 2:30 PM BST
Anorak

What I mean is you can tune into a selected meeting at the moment I am watching them in the parade ring at Roscommon.
Report TheAnorak • September 30, 2019 2:37 PM BST
So is that online or on TV?
Report foxy • September 30, 2019 2:47 PM BST
On line just a desk top computer
Report ohyes24 • September 30, 2019 2:52 PM BST
Totally agree, worst racing in world to bet on.
Report jmdc • September 30, 2019 2:53 PM BST
You can watch the whole of any meeting on RTV Extra. What in the hell is the use of that when they are covering six meetings ffs!  I do hope they have sacked the inadequate Seb Vance, who promoted the idea to cover his severely spanked arse!
Report differentdrum • September 30, 2019 2:54 PM BST
I am not going to debate whether Gary O'Brien has a personality but who on Racing TV are you using as a benchmark?
Report jmdc • September 30, 2019 2:56 PM BST
Gary O'Brien is the stiffest, most tedious presenter in Ireland.  He is however the best commentator, mainly because us Brits can understand the man!
Report TheAnorak • September 30, 2019 2:57 PM BST
Thanks Foxy, maybe I need to switch from TV viewing to online.
Report ZEALOT • September 30, 2019 3:02 PM BST
Bring back Julian Wilson from the grave to replace Gary .
Report foxy • September 30, 2019 3:04 PM BST
It suits me anorak as there is far to much racing so I just concentrate on the racing that suits me,also you don’t need to put up with adverts and wafflers.you get a head on after each race .
Report onlooker • September 30, 2019 3:08 PM BST
Likewise - Anorak - VirginMedia Cable  only here, too.
Report mrcombustible • September 30, 2019 9:44 PM BST
Watching online is 10 seconds slower than TV
Report ZEALOT • October 5, 2019 4:01 PM BST
ITV racing is full of imbeciles -

ATR is full of adverts and halfwits , too many women who know very very little .

RTV - I would never watch Irish racing due to my brain not being able to handle those very moronic commentators .

I AM COMPLETELY LOST .
Report elisjohn • October 5, 2019 4:06 PM BST
good horses, good races on itv today, but personally just didnt enjoy it at all, this lot chamberlain, hoiles, persad, johnston,and chapman even though he wasnt  there today are terrible, and too much races 8 in 2 hours
Report wondersobright • October 5, 2019 4:07 PM BST
last week when the middle park was split screened & given 2nd preference (no commentary initially) to some poxy hcap hurdle @ navan was 1 of the lowest days I've ever seen on RUK Sad

sadly ITV is even worse imo
Report jmdc • October 5, 2019 4:24 PM BST
A bit unfair wonder - they gave Siskin plenty of chances before they went to Navan.
Report Oldgit1 • October 5, 2019 9:51 PM BST
I turn the sound down when Irish racing is on.
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