MULTIPLES ON THE EXCHANGE ARE NO MORE FROM 29TH AUGUST.

what. how do you know that. i love the multis

It's all about the Sportsbook, they don't want people punting on here when Sportsbook can take those bets.

EMAIL @ 18:06 TODAY

   

Hi



We regret to inform you that as of Thursday August 29th the Exchange Racing multiples product http://multiples.betfair.com/ is being permanently decommissioned due to technical limitations.

We apologise for the short notice but hope, where possible, you will continue to place your Racing multiples with Betfair via our sportsbook. Please also remember BSP betting is still available on the Exchange.

We are keen to gather as much feedback as possible on the benefits of the product and what drove you to use the product. Please click the below link to take a short survey.

Click here

Best regards,

Betfair

ive been doing the mulis for years, i pick as many selections as i want ,in no more than 8 races and it costs me just the £ 2 stake,  wont get that anywhere else  , anyway thanks for letting me know, i havent had the email

So Betfair want the cream for themselves then

Dutchy ditched ,not been able to find how the access to do them for years anyways ,time to bet like men imo

[ ] cross this box if you have received this alleged e-mail

I only got 20 free spins or sumfink.

Why haven't they put it in the service announcements?

Scandalous to Remove the Multis , Many on here cannot even bet with sportsbook , where will that money go ?

Makes no sense tbh .

The MOUSE can get as much as he likes with that sports-book company you mentioned

So far only one person admits to receiving this email.

So I am banned from betting on sportsbook already ,how does this work?

@breadnbutter

"not been able to find how the access to do them for years anyways"

Left hand menu near the bottom, or:

http://multiples.betfair.com/

If 1830 is right, we have a week left to make £1m from a 1p Super Heinz :)

We regret to inform you that as of Thursday August 29th the Exchange Racing multiples product http://multiples.betfair.com/ is being permanently decommissioned due to technical limitations

doesn't sound right , they have had no technical limitations for over 8 years or more and technology only improves .

are you sure 1830 ?

Seems a weird one to make up tbf to the op

1830, are you sure Cardenden didn't send you this e-mail?

Just reading the replies.
Got me thinking I might have recieved some sort of PHISHING email.
Gone back in to check.
100% sent by Betfair.
Only rason I can think Ive receved it before others is because I place one everyday for a decent stake.

Technical Limitations ....I have worked in IT for 37 years ......what a load of .......

Cheers longbridge ,but is a permed multi not dutched on here ?

@breadnbutter - yes, you get dutching with multiple selections (win only), I rather like that.  CAa see it would be good to have an option to choose to perm instead, but I guess we're out of time for that.

Everyone who says "I don't believe the technical limtations story" - look at it?  It looks like the website looked when I got involved here nearly a decade ago, it's not secure/https, I haven't seen any development on it since they introduced EW multis in 2011ish (unless you count turning off Football multis).

I would not be in the least surprised if some component they are using has run off the end of supplier support or security patches or the like.

Shame though, it's a good product for having a £2 fun bet on an otherwise quiet afternoon.

no PC/PCC on multis 

i emailed betfair yesterday and unfortunately 1830 is correct , betfair are stopping multiples .

apologies 1830 for questioning you

All they will result in doing is giving revenue to their rivals

I never knew it existed until today...from posts above. Will get a move on to make up for lost time.

no more tilting at windmills, sad day

Long since  given up backing EW multiples on here , much more prefer to back a win bet then double up the stake on he place only market far more profitable , all  they will make me do is give my win bet a "purple" ticket

Actually got three sails  up on one of those windmills on here  over a year ago 15.72 ,19.00 , 27.6 and then a 2 hour sweat which resulted in especially as the last one went off at 102.00 but was never in it.would have been the bet of a lifetime for peanuts

Back when I was first on here in 2010, a L15 I only checked that evening - got 3 out of 4 and won a little over £100 - 4th leg was 70-something BSP and second by a head or less - and that was before they introduced EW multiples.

Pretty sure I'm well down on them over the years, but they've been a good bit of fun between the more serious stuff.

yes they havefun, i backed a 33s winner in the nassau few years back on its own in one leg  and the other 7 legs i had about 5 runners in each race , stake £2 won over a grand

e.mail arrived....reply to survey...very poor decision

just had mine as well

I notice they did finally get round to putting it on the service announcements this morning

incredible how much betfair has gone downhill

Betfair Customer Services    23 Aug 19 09:43 


We apologise for the short notice but hope, where possible, you will continue to place your racing multiples with Betfair via the Sportsbook. Please also keep in mind that BSP betting is still available on the Exchange.

Regards,

Betfair Customer Service   

I think 1830 must have cleaned them out once too often and they've decided enough's enough!

Nothing worse than you 1st selection winning at 180.00 to 1 in an EW doubles and  treble bet and the rest being no where

probably want everyone to take the useless cash out on sportsbook, exchange players can work it out for themselves or use gruss

that's it tom

betfair are always thinking how can they rinse losers as well as winners

" technical limitations". Where / what else could they do with Doubles , Trebles and accs it ran its self

I wondered where Ratner had gone after his jewellery business ,he must work for Betfair . This has to be the worst management decision in the history of running profitable companies . Whoever thought this idea up must be nuts .Rival companies must be howling at that decision .

all guns blazing taking the survey but it won't make any difference, don't know why we bother

Another wonderful decision following the withdrawal of numerous US place markets. Are they trying to run the Exchange into the ground so everyone will bet on their Sportsbook bookmaking rubbish?

sorry betfair but your making a right ricket with this i wont be using betfair when this happens ..still it will save me a right few quid

There should be a mass boycott of Betfair Sportsbook in response to this.
Absolutely ridiculous.

There have been some massive BFSPs yesterday and today. I wonder whether they have taken a big hit and the technical limitations refer to their hedging software not working properly.

Might of been Frankie what done it.

from the service forum

Dear all,

We regret to announce that as of Thursday 29th August, the Exchange Racing multiples product (mutiples.betfair.com) is being permanently decommissioned due to technical limitations.

We apologise for the short notice but hope, where possible, you will continue to place your racing multiples with Betfair via the Sportsbook. Please also keep in mind that BSP betting is still available on the Exchange.

Regards,

Betfair Customer Service

"hope, where possible, you will continue to place your racing multiples with Betfair via the Sportsbook..where you can indulge on all our bottom prices."

this is a joke , "technical limitations" my arse.just trying to drive you to more profitable sportsbook. why do you think we use the exchange to start with. no doubt other savvy gamblers like myself already barred from BOG etc.....so now running out of options since betfair sold their soul to paddy power.

I'm not a big gambler , but the exchange multiples were often my bet of choice . Sad to see it go . Just like I was sad to see the loss of the Tote credit Club offices at racecourses . I won't bother with the survey , as I think it's pointless . Accountants running and ruining so many things nowadays with their short sighted balance sheet mentality .

it was great as well they stopped that few years back  when you could lay on the multis

copy of email complaint sent to support.en@betfair.com , let's bombard them with complaints........"Good morning ,

I write to complain about your decision communicated by email , text copied below , to withdraw horse racing BSP multiples.

The reason I use Betfair is because of the extra value from exchange betting , as you are more than happy to advertise. This value is compounded on multiples betting.

I can't believe that in a world of rapidly improving technology you are stating " technical limitations " as the reason for withdrawing this facility which has been operating for many years.

I can't help but think this is just a means to drive people to use the more lucrative sportsbook.

As the sportsbook represents just a normal poor value bookmaker and I have been barred from promotions including BOG I shall not be using it for my multiple betting.

I would urge you review this decision.

Regards ,

John Coleshill.


" We regret to inform you that as of Thursday August 29th the Exchange Racing multiples producthttp://multiples.betfair.com/is being permanently decommissioned due to technical limitations.

We apologise for the short notice but hope, where possible, you will continue to place your Racing multiples with Betfair via our sportsbook. Please also remember BSP betting is still available on the Exchange.

We are keen to gather as much feedback as possible on the benefits of the product and what drove you to use the product. Please click the below link to take a short survey. "

Not long after they started i turned about £2 on sat eve into 11k by Monday evening. Put the £2 on a winner then did a £1.03 crowley yankee at salisbury eve card with 3 winners 1 at 20's and on the Sun did a fehily heinz (only ever done abut 3 in my life) and yankee at Southwell that had the same 3 winners and a nr. Did a few other bets and from memory it was during the Ashes and won on that as well, withdrew a fair chunk of it the next day with no pc or owt. haven't done them much recently mind.

Does the Daq offer racing multiples?

not on their exchange

Since when

Of course, as it has been pointed out on here before, all multiples can be boiled down to singles and therefore done manually on the exchange. In fact, this is better value because the commission will be below 5% AND the bettor has the flexibility to 'cash out' if he/she desires.
The big drawback though is that this manual method requires you to be present at the exchange interface before each race (and after your last result). It also requires some working out to decide your running-on money.

Also, I don't think Paddy Power took control of the exchange multiples. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong no doubt.

swift-tuttle 24 Aug 19 20:55 
Of course, as it has been pointed out on here before, all multiples can be boiled down to singles and therefore done manually on the exchange. In fact, this is better value because the commission will be below 5%

PC/PCC payers excluded ...

ah yes keep forgetting about PC
How was that Easterby nag over 500/1? I reckon that sickened them

yes swift , but for me and a lot of others, i used to play £2 OR £5 stake on the maximum 8 legs and select as many horses as i want in each race and it only cost me the one stake, cant do that on any other sites.PS,carrott, was the since when to me, i dont go on daq much but i havent come across their multis, sorry if i was wrong, i,ll have a look later

I only ever do single bets on the exchange or elsewhere so am asking a genuine question. I'm a bit puzzled as to how you get people to lay a potential huge payout. Are these really part of the exchange proper ?

must be a bit of a money spinner given the outcry over it's demise.  got 4 days left to find out ..

salmon as far as i know the betfair multis on the exchange  are covered by betfair itself.

If that's correct elisjohn then multis are not part of the exchange model.
I've had a look at the page for the first time ever and although I haven't entirely grasped it it looks as though they are based on BFSP. In that case they can't have existed this time 12 years ago. I happen to know because at the time I was running a lay comp and I was getting a lot of stick because I was having to use ISP.I was able to start using BFSP in 2008 when it was introduced.

There are multiples on "purple" they might say sportsbook but the prices are from the exchange

i dont know when these multis started, but ia good few years back you were able to back and lay on them, and on soccer as well, but they stopped the laying on them probably 4/5 years back.im sure some out there will know much better than me. Carrott i,ll have a good look at the purple site later, too engrossed in cricket at moment

copy below of email just sent to Racing Post , will they publish ?

" Dear Sir ,

Betfair have recently announced

" We regret to inform you that as of Thursday August 29th the Exchange Racing multiples producthttp://multiples.betfair.com/is being permanently decommissioned due to technical limitations.

We apologise for the short notice but hope, where possible, you will continue to place your Racing multiples with Betfair via our sportsbook. Please also remember BSP betting is still available on the Exchange. "

I don't believe for a minute the reason for doing this , how in a world of rapid technological improvements can an established product be affected by technical limitations. The reason has got to be pure profiteering , a result of Betfair selling their soul to Paddy Power.

I will not be moving to sportsbook or any other " standard " bookmaker for my weekly TV multiple interest bet and give example below to illustrate why I'm not prepared to accept 20% , yes 20% lower returns.

56 x 13p trebles....8 selections , 5 winners Betfair SP - Industry SP.

Indianapolis..........9.03 - 7/1

Power of darkness....4.37 - 11/4

Sapa inca......5.86 - 4/1

Victory day.....2.92 - 7/4

Addeybb.......2.26 - 11/10



Actual BSP Multiples return ......£110.57

Theoretical ISP return................£88.03 "

elisjohn

they have always been there the only difference being you take the price available at that time not sp so you know the potential returns

Frankly if Bf/PP ARE standing as layers to these at BFSP I'm amazed they've lasted as long as they have.

Hi Salmon spray , The worry is that the new business model of BF/PP is no longer happy with making profit on exchange markets with overounds of 101% and will close all exchange betting to force people onto "normal" markets with overounds of 120%.

ive been on daq now, and i  get accas on soccer, but nothing on horse racing

daq HAVE STOPPED taking multis on the exchange on horses, but now we can do them on their new sportsbook  that they introduced few weeks back, just phoned their helpdesk

There's a difference coey and that is their rake from the exchange model proper is risk-free. Laying them themselves isn't and it's hardly a viable business model if not only you but your competitors are laying them much shorter.

They havent stopped taking them the sports book prices are closely matched to the exchange prices on purple  Pactolus is 11/1 on both exchanges yet is 8/1 on the betfair sportsbook yet 11/1 on the **** sportsbook

carrott, i apologise if you think i was being (not sure of the word) with my HAVE STOPPED , wasnt directed at you , i only wanted to point out to all, that yes the multis on daq are  now like you say on their sportsbook site .

Can one do antepost multiples eg The Leger and Arc? If so, how plz?

yes, no problem on sportsbook, but there might be restrictions, but im restricted to peanuts on singles, but theyre much better on accas etc.

after saying that the maximum i can have on the leger fav and enable was £ 10 double

tried to get that double on daq sbook now, and im not even getting anything on the screen page , so probably havent a market for it on their sbook site, though it does say ante post leger in the menu.  But we werent getting antepost multis on the betfair exchange, which i would have loved having.

impossible, the antepost multi on betfair sportsbook is easy, but sometimes slow, go to sbook page , horses, then future races then pick your races, they have quite a lotup.

'elisjohn', thanks. I meant on the Exchange - sorry.

no

Thanks.

@salmon

"I'm a bit puzzled as to how you get people to lay a potential huge payout. Are these really part of the exchange proper ?"

No, BF lay the liability.

As to not being able to see how they can make money doing so - if BSP represents fair value (and it appears to or they'd be strategies that were profitable blindly backing or laying at BSP) then laying BSP minus 5% is free money to BF.

And finally as to how long they have been doing them - when I started on here in 2010, they had Football (back or lay) multis and HR Win multis.  EW HR came in around 2011 and the Football multis (which were at fixed odds not SP) went on the merger with PP.

several people have hinted at getting either exchange multiples or enhanced price sportsbook multiples with **** , just visited site and looks to me that only multiples available are exact copy of laddies which is what i thought i'd find. if any different i'd be grateful if you could enlighten me.

Whats happening to Betfair as at the moment it is a load of rubbish. They have taken away the exchange betting and no longer able to place horses in doubles et. First day was fine as could place them on sportsbook but yesterday and today it is i
mpossible as it is just showing a load of rubbish and no racing or anything else. Might as well close the account and use **** or one of the other major bookies.

They want it all.From winner and losers.THE CREAM.

Smiler, I find it works OK with Google Chrome but not from Internet Explorer.

yes it is better with chrome.T oday i,ll really miss my multis, every group race i ve been doing them for last 5 years in multis,  and today with 3 in uk, and around 5 i ireland, id have 3 or 4 selections in all the races for eg £2 maybe a £5, but cant do it any more.

Took a time to get used to doing mixed horse racing bets on Sportsbook instead of on the exchanges. Used it for a few days and now unable to log into mixed bets on sportsbook for some reasson or other. It lists numerous sports but when click horse racing nothing. So sportsbook has now disappeared for me so unable to place multiple horse racing bets on both exchanges and sportsbook. It leaves me with no option but to switch to some other service like **** or other bookmakers. Sad as have loved Betfair exchange betting and fun has now gone  out of having a bet as very seldom back singles.

TTT